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WhiteLie
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Jul 7 @ 3:48 PM ET
Sweeney isn't an NHL or AHL prospect. He is heading to University after his overage season. Not sure why he would be invited.
- CanuckDon


The benefit of CIS hockey is they can go back and forth to professional leagues, no restrictions. A friend of mine signed in the AHL, left after a month to go to college and then returned towards the end of the season after his college season finished. To call him a prospect is a bit of a stretch though as you say
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 7 @ 3:54 PM ET
I think we should acquire an Asian hockey player.
- VanHockeyGuy

""Marketing""
allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jul 7 @ 4:01 PM ET
Hutton made the team out of camp. No injuries had happened yet, maybe not so much in top 4 but he was still on the team. If stecher made the team as a bottom pairing, would still show that Green is wrong.
- manvanfan


Yeah he made the team out of camp but that doesn't mean he would've stayed necessarily and played as much without the back end injuries. Green's quote would be wrong for sure.
allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jul 7 @ 4:03 PM ET
""Marketing""
- A_SteamingLombardi


What about United Nations, Italian, Indian, we have Croatian already.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
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Jul 7 @ 4:07 PM ET
Player exposure requirements for the expansion draft say that the players have to be under contract for 17/18 so Gaunce, Etem, Rodin & Larsen would all have to be signed to be exposed and if Larsen, Rodin, Gaunce, doesn't play in at least 40 games they are ineligible, the same goes for Tree. Plus we only have to expose 1 dman 2 forwards and a goalie, so if Rodin or Larsen have great years we just don't resign then until after the expansion draft.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 7 @ 4:08 PM ET
Not sure how you structured this but they have to expose a goalie, so unless they get one under contract they have to put out Markstrom. Also some of your "protected" are ineligible to be selected anyways
- WhiteLie

7 forwards 3 D 1 G or 8 skaters and 1 G
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 7 @ 4:11 PM ET
Player exposure requirements for the expansion draft say that the players have to be under contract for 17/18 so Gaunce, Etem, Rodin & Larsen would all have to be signed to be exposed and if Larsen, Rodin, Gaunce, doesn't play in at least 40 games they are ineligible, the same goes for Tree. Plus we only have to expose 1 dman 2 forwards and a goalie, so if Rodin or Larsen have great years we just don't resign then until after the expansion draft.
- A_SteamingLombardi

sbisa dorsett and granlund. Gartieg.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
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Jul 7 @ 4:13 PM ET
7 forwards 3 D 1 G or 8 skaters and 1 G
- manvanfan

That's what you're allowed to protect.

Every team has to expose 1D 1G & 2F

Sbisa
Goalie we have to sign
Granlund, Baertschi or Dorsett are the only forwards that qualify to be exposed right now, unless we sign other forwards that play at least 40 games this year.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 7 @ 4:15 PM ET
Player exposure requirements for the expansion draft say that the players have to be under contract for 17/18 so Gaunce, Etem, Rodin & Larsen would all have to be signed to be exposed and if Larsen, Rodin, Gaunce, doesn't play in at least 40 games they are ineligible, the same goes for Tree. Plus we only have to expose 1 dman 2 forwards and a goalie, so if Rodin or Larsen have great years we just don't resign then until after the expansion draft.
- A_SteamingLombardi


I thought it was under contract 2017/2018 or expiring RFA so Gaunce, Rodin and Larsen should be fair game regardless of whether they are signed.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
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Jul 7 @ 4:17 PM ET
sbisa dorsett and granlund. Gartieg.
- manvanfan

Gartieg would have to receive his qualifying offer prior to the submission of the protected list.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 7 @ 4:18 PM ET
Gartieg would have to receive his qualifying offer prior to the submission of the protected list.
- A_SteamingLombardi

yes he would.
WhiteLie
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Jul 7 @ 4:18 PM ET
sbisa dorsett and granlund. Gartieg.
- manvanfan


Garteig doesnt have enough professional experience to be eligible. Him and Demko have the exact same amount of professional experience
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 7 @ 4:19 PM ET
I thought it was under contract 2017/2018 or expiring RFA so Gaunce, Rodin and Larsen should be fair game regardless of whether they are signed.
- belcherbd

Gaunce or Rodin if they don't play 40 games can't be picked. Tree if he doesn't play 55 plus games is exempt too.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 7 @ 4:21 PM ET
Garteig doesnt have enough professional experience to be eligible. Him and Demko have the exact same amount of professional experience
- WhiteLie

Protected Lists
* Clubs will have two options for players they wish to protect in the Expansion Draft:

a) Seven forwards, three defensemen and one goaltender

b) Eight skaters (forwards/defensemen) and one goaltender

* All players who have currently effective and continuing "No Movement" clauses at the time of the Expansion Draft (and who to decline to waive such clauses) must be protected (and will be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits).

* All first- and second-year professionals, as well as all unsigned draft choices, will be exempt from selection (and will not be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits).

Player Exposure Requirements
* All Clubs must meet the following minimum requirements regarding players exposed for selection in the Expansion Draft:

i) One defenseman who is a) under contract in 2017-18 and b) played in 40 or more NHL games the prior season OR played in 70 or more NHL games in the prior two seasons.

ii) Two forwards who are a) under contract in 2017-18 and b) played in 40 or more NHL games the prior season OR played in 70 or more NHL games in the prior two seasons.

iii) One goaltender who is under contract in 2017-18 or will be a restricted free agent at the expiration of his current contract immediately prior to 2017-18. If the club elects to make a restricted free agent goaltender available in order to meet this requirement, that goaltender must have received his qualifying offer prior to the submission of the club's protected list.

* Players with potential career-ending injuries who have missed more than the previous 60 consecutive games (or who otherwise have been confirmed to have a career-threatening injury) may not be used to satisfy a club's player exposure requirements, unless approval is received from the NHL. Such players also may be deemed exempt from selection by the League.
A_SteamingLombardi
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Jul 7 @ 4:22 PM ET
Garteig doesnt have enough professional experience to be eligible. Him and Demko have the exact same amount of professional experience
- WhiteLie

I can't find a games played requirement for goalies in the expansion draft rules, the goalie has to be under contract or a RFA.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 7 @ 4:22 PM ET
Gaunce or Rodin if they don't play 40 games can't be picked. Tree if he doesn't play 55 plus games is exempt too.
- manvanfan


I understand that but ASL had said that those players could be resigned after the draft which I think is false as RFA's whose deal just expired are also eligible I believe.

Edit. Perhaps I'm wrong and that it only applies to goalies.
WhiteLie
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Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
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Jul 7 @ 4:26 PM ET
Protected Lists
* Clubs will have two options for players they wish to protect in the Expansion Draft:

a) Seven forwards, three defensemen and one goaltender

b) Eight skaters (forwards/defensemen) and one goaltender

* All players who have currently effective and continuing "No Movement" clauses at the time of the Expansion Draft (and who to decline to waive such clauses) must be protected (and will be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits).

* All first- and second-year professionals, as well as all unsigned draft choices, will be exempt from selection (and will not be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits).

Player Exposure Requirements
* All Clubs must meet the following minimum requirements regarding players exposed for selection in the Expansion Draft:

i) One defenseman who is a) under contract in 2017-18 and b) played in 40 or more NHL games the prior season OR played in 70 or more NHL games in the prior two seasons.

ii) Two forwards who are a) under contract in 2017-18 and b) played in 40 or more NHL games the prior season OR played in 70 or more NHL games in the prior two seasons.

iii) One goaltender who is under contract in 2017-18 or will be a restricted free agent at the expiration of his current contract immediately prior to 2017-18. If the club elects to make a restricted free agent goaltender available in order to meet this requirement, that goaltender must have received his qualifying offer prior to the submission of the club's protected list.

* Players with potential career-ending injuries who have missed more than the previous 60 consecutive games (or who otherwise have been confirmed to have a career-threatening injury) may not be used to satisfy a club's player exposure requirements, unless approval is received from the NHL. Such players also may be deemed exempt from selection by the League.

- manvanfan


Garteig's 2016-2017 will be his first professional season
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
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Jul 7 @ 4:26 PM ET
Larsen will be UFA so I think he will be exempt, not sure.
A_SteamingLombardi
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Jul 7 @ 4:30 PM ET
Garteig's 2016-2017 will be his first professional season
- WhiteLie

But RFA goalies can be exposed, it beats signing another goalie just to expose him.

LV has to take 14F 9D 3G
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 7 @ 4:30 PM ET
I understand that but ASL had said that those players could be resigned after the draft which I think is false as RFA's whose deal just expired are also eligible I believe.

Edit. Perhaps I'm wrong and that it only applies to goalies.

- belcherbd


I'm pretty sure Bettman and Co wouldn't allow such an easy way of circumventing the expansion draft's parameters. There has to be verbiage which addresses situations such as this.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
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Jul 7 @ 4:30 PM ET
Gaunce or Rodin if they don't play 40 games can't be picked. Tree if he doesn't play 55 plus games is exempt too.
- manvanfan


Tree is already exempt from selection as is Virtanen and Hutton. Next season will be their second. Their 3rd seasons will start the same time Vegas is taking to the ice

EDIT: I say Tree is because I assume the NHL doesnt consider Europe/KHL as professional seasons
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
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Jul 7 @ 4:33 PM ET
Just thought of something, what if Dallas doesn't protect Hamhius and he gets picked by LV, will he take his family to sin city?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 7 @ 4:34 PM ET
Garteig's 2016-2017 will be his first professional season
- WhiteLie

So van can protect
Henrik
Daniel
Loui
Sutter
Hansen
Bo
Baert

Edler
Tanev
Guds

Exempt
virtanen
Gaunce
Tree
Hutton

Exposed
Sbisa
Dorsett, Granlund
Markstrom

Then everyone who hasn't played 40 games this season or 70 games the last 2 season.

What is the first and second professional, does that include the AHL?
Correct?
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Jul 7 @ 4:39 PM ET
Protected Forwards:
-Daniel -Henrik
-Eriksson -Horvat
-Sutter -Baertschi
-Virtanen -Hansen

Exposed Forwards:
-Rodin -Etem
-Dorsett -Granlund
-Gaunce

Protected Defensemen:
-Edler -Tanev
-Gudbranson -Tryamkin
-Hutton -Larsen

Exposed Defensemen:
-Biega -Pedan
-Sbisa

Protected Goalies:
-Markstrom
-Demko

Exposed Goalies:
none

I think if JB makes a move for another winger as he has said he might try, it would have to involve trading one of Baertschi or Hansen

- NorthNuck


I think it will be time to deal Hansen at the deadline if were out of a spot. With Eriksson, JV and Boeser coming up next season not looking like there will be a place for him.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 7 @ 4:40 PM ET
So van can protect
Henrik
Daniel
Loui
Sutter
Hansen
Bo
Baert

Edler
Tanev
Guds

Exempt
virtanen
Gaunce
Tree
Hutton

Exposed
Sbisa
Dorsett, Granlund
Markstrom

Then everyone who hasn't played 40 games this season or 70 games the last 2 season.

What is the first and second professional, does that include the AHL?
Correct?

- manvanfan

From what I've read that is right, but we can expose an RFA goalie.


Player Exposure Requirements
* All Clubs must meet the following minimum requirements regarding players exposed for selection in the Expansion Draft:

i) One defenseman who is a) under contract in 2017-18 and b) played in 40 or more NHL games the prior season OR played in 70 or more NHL games in the prior two seasons.

ii) Two forwards who are a) under contract in 2017-18 and b) played in 40 or more NHL games the prior season OR played in 70 or more NHL games in the prior two seasons.

iii) One goaltender who is under contract in 2017-18 or will be a restricted free agent at the expiration of his current contract immediately prior to 2017-18. If the club elects to make a restricted free agent goaltender available in order to meet this requirement, that goaltender must have received his qualifying offer prior to the submission of the club's protected list.
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