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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 6 @ 2:37 PM ET
Where did Donovan sign?
- JVince11

free agent right now, I think
nikel
Buffalo Sabres
Location: las vegas, NV
Joined: 01.15.2013

Jul 6 @ 2:39 PM ET
...For me, the big lesson was that will be a solid 3 or 4 line, and Jack & Sam work well together......so from the beginning we know there's no reason to mess with those combos.
- nikel


You want to rely on Gionta, Foligno, and Larsson for points. That's why I throw that out. Not to mention we've seen multiple times where a line does well to end the season and then doesn't play the same the next season together.

I kept Kane and ROR together because they played well. I kept Eichel and Reinhart together because they played well. You have Ennis coming back, Moulson still on the team, another top 6 spot taken by Okposo, and a potential one by Vesey.

Foligno and Larsson are best used on the 4th line. If you want to put Gionta down there too then fine, that'll be the 4th line. But I'm not putting them out there with the game on the line because I have better players for that. Otherwise we should get Regier and Ruff back so we can put Gaustad, Hecht, and Greir out with 30 seconds left down a goal.

- Zschalberg


.....ummm, I think you missed the part where I said that (Foligno, Larsson, Gionta) will be a solid 3 or 4 line. I don't know how you took what I said as them being our #1 line?

However you want to phrase it, they were the most consistent line through the last quarter season.

There's no logical reason to do anything other than keep them where they're at to start the season.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 6 @ 2:40 PM ET
Still blasting Foligno I see. Are you people unemployed?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 6 @ 2:40 PM ET
Still blasting Foligno I see. Are you people unemployed?
- sbroads24

I work at 4
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jul 6 @ 2:41 PM ET
Maybe... Rochester is going to be LOADED with kids.

Carrier, Baptiste, Bailey, Fasching, Nylander, Cornel, Dupuy, Estephan, Karabacek, and Olofsson are all there I believe.

- JVince11



Not sure if Olofsson comes over? and I dont think Estephan is eligable but that is a pretty decent squad.

Also just my opinion but I think Karabacek is a bust
BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jul 6 @ 2:42 PM ET
The Sabres should get cap recapture in the form of the first year players who are charged the full amount of their possible bonuses against the cap in their first year and whatever amounts they did attain are subtracted from the cap the following year. I would guess with Reinhart and Eichel you get at least four million if not five million plus. At least that is what I recall. I still do not know all the fine points about this last cba.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 6 @ 2:42 PM ET
I wanna know why NYR didn't offer a contract to a guy they got in the 4th round??

I can't figure that out.

All I have found is some Blue Seats Blog that says "he regressed and did not warrant a ELC" which seems ridiculous to me.

- JVince11


You only get 50 slots. 4th round is already kind of iffy - if the kid didn't show anything it shouldn't be that much of a surprise.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 6 @ 2:42 PM ET
In a nutshell... possibly...

Rochester looks like:

Nylander - Cornel - Bailey
Karabacek - Grant - Baptiste
Carrier - Catenacci/Rodriguez - Schneider

Guhle - Fudan
Falk - Martin
Austin - Mantha?

Ullmark
Kasdorf


THAT... is.. a pretty darn good kid system right there IMO.
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jul 6 @ 2:43 PM ET
Rodrigues too. I think Nylander is going to play in Sweden? Thought I heard that somewhere.
- Zschalberg



I think Bobby Mack said at the draft that there are roumors that if he doesnt make the NHL he goes back to sweden to play with his dad
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 6 @ 2:43 PM ET
Still blasting Foligno I see. Are you people unemployed?
- sbroads24


I just woke up .. Looks at clock 17 minutes till lunchtime

MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jul 6 @ 2:43 PM ET
In a nutshell... possibly...

Rochester looks like:

Nylander - Cornel - Bailey
Karabacek - Grant - Baptiste
Carrier - Catenacci/Rodriguez - Schneider

Guhle - Fudan
Falk - Martin
Austin - Mantha?

Ullmark
Kasdorf


THAT... is.. a pretty darn good kid system right there IMO.

- JVince11



Kinda hoping they sign Florentino
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jul 6 @ 2:44 PM ET
...For me, the big lesson was that will be a solid 3 or 4 line, and Jack & Sam work well together......so from the beginning we know there's no reason to mess with those combos.
- nikel




.....ummm, I think you missed the part where I said that (Foligno, Larsson, Gionta) will be a solid 3 or 4 line. I don't know how you took what I said as them being our #1 line?

However you want to phrase it, they were the most consistent line through the last quarter season.

There's no logical reason to do anything other than keep them where they're at to start the season.

- nikel

I get what you're saying. Reason I put D-lo on that line instead of Gionta is I didn't want Deslauries in the top 6. I'd rather have Gionta there. Honestly, you can switch that and I'd still be okay with it. Main point of that post was I see more value with Ennis on the 3rd line and having 3 scoring lines than on the 2nd with Jack and Sam
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 6 @ 2:44 PM ET
I work at 4
- homiedclown

Where, at the Foligno....hating.....factory...?
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 6 @ 2:44 PM ET
In a nutshell... possibly...

Rochester looks like:

Nylander - Cornel - Bailey
Karabacek - Grant - Baptiste
Carrier - Catenacci/Rodriguez - Schneider

Guhle - Fudan
Falk - Martin
Austin - Mantha?

Ullmark
Kasdorf


THAT... is.. a pretty darn good kid system right there IMO.

- JVince11

Karabacek should be a free agent but I understand why they signed him


JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 6 @ 2:45 PM ET
Not sure if Olofsson comes over? and I dont think Estephan is eligable but that is a pretty decent squad.

Also just my opinion but I think Karabacek is a bust

- MCGUIZZY


estephan is 19... I looked him up.

Olofsson is still in Sweden as well.

Karabacek definitely should be scoring at a better rate in the Q.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 6 @ 2:45 PM ET
Still blasting Foligno I see. Are you people unemployed?
- sbroads24

I'm blasting him, got a problem with that
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 6 @ 2:45 PM ET
I think Bobby Mack said at the draft that there are roumors that if he doesnt make the NHL he goes back to sweden to play with his dad
- MCGUIZZY



Hope he does it
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 6 @ 2:45 PM ET
Kinda hoping they sign Florentino
- MCGUIZZY


If he hasn't already at this point I wouldn't imagine he would now.... IMO
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 6 @ 2:46 PM ET
I'm blasting him, got a problem with that
- SABRES 89

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 6 @ 2:46 PM ET
I'm blasting him, got a problem with that
- SABRES 89

Oh, you have a problem with that.
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jul 6 @ 2:46 PM ET
In a nutshell... possibly...

Rochester looks like:

Nylander - Cornel - Bailey
Karabacek - Grant - Baptiste
Carrier - Catenacci/Rodriguez - Schneider

Guhle - Fudan
Falk - Martin
Austin - Mantha?

Ullmark
Kasdorf


THAT... is.. a pretty darn good kid system right there IMO.

- JVince11

Karabacek above Carrier? Nylander goes to Sweden I think you switch them. Then round it out with some career AHL guys. Biggest concern is the center position. Not much talent there since it's all in the NHL.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 6 @ 2:48 PM ET
Karabacek above Carrier? Nylander goes to Sweden I think you switch them. Then round it out with some career AHL guys. Biggest concern is the center position. Not much talent there since it's all in the NHL.
- Zschalberg


Dupuy is there as well. he plays LW.

Yea... It was a big shot in the dark just looking at the list.

I have high hopes for Cornel though. Grant is a 26 year old vet. Kea there as well but he is basically a 4th liner.
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jul 6 @ 2:48 PM ET
Still blasting Foligno I see. Are you people unemployed?
- sbroads24



We agreed he's fine in the right position. Where are you seeing us blast him? We're onto the AHL now.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 6 @ 2:54 PM ET
Finland reporter saying Rick Nash is eating chicken wings In buffalo
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 6 @ 2:55 PM ET
Finland reporter saying Rick Nash is eating chicken wings In buffalo
- GERBE!!!75PTS


Yea.. that dude is GRASPING now.... So sad. Such a fall from such high grace.

Trade Leopold and a 2nd for Nash.
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