Haven't seen past season 1. Wife got mad at me when I fell in love with that blonde dragon woman chick. When she showed boobies I almost got murdered.

Would have still been worth it.
- MikesPillBottle

have you or your wife heard of google?

I really think he's tried to move him but no one was willing to offer anything of value for him.

He's just not the type of player that teams are searching for these days.

He had the hype to be a core player, but hasn't become a core player - to me. He's a less talented Mike Richards with a taller body - but thinner. Minus the work ethic to outwork anyone on the ice. I speak of the Richards of old, not the new Richards. The new Richards is probably an identical match to the current Schenn.

If Richards got Schenn's ice time I'd wager he would put up the same numbers and have a larger impact. It's moot regardless, however.

Double adverb? That a sin?
- MikesPillBottle

Richards would always get the benefit of the doubt when he wasn't scoring back in the day because he did so many other things well. Richards was an all-situation player in his Philly prime. He could take faceoffs, you wanted him on the ice when defending a lead, in addition to his offensive responsibilities.

Not so with Brayden Schenn.

If Brayden Schenn's not scoring, he can disappear at times. He'll crash and bang occasionally (i.e.-- last year's playoff series against the Caps), but maybe not enough for my tastes.

I really think he's tried to move him but no one was willing to offer anything of value for him.

He's just not the type of player that teams are searching for these days.

- MikesPillBottle

It makes sense that teams aren't looking for a 26 goal, 59 point scorer, and a player who has increased his point totals every season of his career. A player like that obviously would have no value in a trade.

Got your answers from yesterdays questions?
- J35Bacher

Indeed, although I turned the volume way up and still couldn't hear exactly what was being said...but I got the idea.

I really think he's tried to move him but no one was willing to offer anything of value for him.

He's just not the type of player that teams are searching for these days.

He had the hype to be a core player, but hasn't become a core player - to me. He's a less talented Mike Richards with a taller body - but thinner. Minus the work ethic to outwork anyone on the ice. I speak of the Richards of old, not the new Richards. The new Richards is probably an identical match to the current Schenn.

If Richards got Schenn's ice time I'd wager he would put up the same numbers and have a larger impact. It's moot regardless, however.

Double adverb? That a sin?
- MikesPillBottle

New (old) Ritchie needs to worry about getting an NHL contract first.

It makes sense that teams aren't looking for a 26 goal, 59 point scorer, and a player who has increased his point totals every season of his career. A player like that obviously would have no value in a trade.
- MJL

And that's just it, as far as I'm concerned.

No matter what my reservations are about Brayden Schenn, how would the Flyers replace his output? Not as easy as one might think.

It makes sense that teams aren't looking for a 26 goal, 59 point scorer, and a player who has increased his point totals every season of his career. A player like that obviously would have no value in a trade.
- MJL

Its good news to us though.. A third party in arbitration is clearly going to award him 4th line money.

And that's just it, as far as I'm concerned.

No matter what my reservations are about Brayden Schenn, how would the Flyers replace his output? Not as easy as one might think.
- johndewar

Agreed. That kind of output is going to warrant $5M at minimum.

Its good news to us though.. A third party in arbitration is clearly going to award him 4th line money.
- jak521

"Accidentally" submit a list of the league's top 50 scorers from 1985-86 instead of 2015-16, and hope the arbitrator doesn't notice.

DP

DP
- Feanor

this could mean so many things

this could mean so many things
- YuenglingJagr

I'm hoping it means the Flyers have awarded a 15-year, $67.5M contract to goaltending phenom Rick DiPietro.

Based on statistical analysis, and the current rate of scoring in today's NHL, a player scoring at or above a 65 point average is basically a top level scorer. 65 points was good for 23rd in the NHL last year.

Using that criteria, scoring at a 50 point pace would be considered to be an average or expected level for a "first line" player.

Brayden Schenn had 26 goals and 59 points. Other players who managed to score at that rate are Taylor Hall, Andrew Ladd, Jeff Carter, Jordan Eberle, Wayne Simmonds and Phil Kessel.

Guys who didn't manage to score as many points as Schenn include Ryan Kesler, Jeff Skinner, TJ Oshie, Henrik Zetterberg, Boone Jenner, Scott Hartnell, Mikkel Boedker, Paul Stastny, Nate MacKinnon & Gabe Landeskog.

Like him or not, if the Flyers tried to trade Brayden Schenn, there'd be a lot of interested teams. The guy is a two time 20 goal scorer, and has been a consistent 20 goal, 45-50 point guy for three years in a row.

Combining the last three seasons, guys who have scored at a similar rate as Schenn include: Loui Eriksson, Rick Nash, Jonathan Huberdeau, James van Riemsdyk, Pavel Datsyuk, Jason Pominville & Tyler Toffoli. That's pretty good company

Seems like a stable relationship to me
- PhillySportsGuy

She stays with him for the tax benefits.

She stays with him for the tax benefits.
- Scoob

hahahaha

Based on statistical analysis...
- Jsaquella

- Tomahawk

Top line centers score 80+ points
second line centers score 60+ points
third line centers score 40+ points

Facts

Kyle Palmieri 5 years $4.65M AAV

That's likely Schenn's comp

Top line centers score 80+ points
second line centers score 60+ points
third line centers score 40+ points

Facts
- PhillySportsGuy

That is sarcasm right. Just got out of a meeting.

Facts
- PhillySportsGuy

Sorry, I only deal in hyperbolas.

Seems like a stable relationship to me
- PhillySportsGuy

Everyody has their quirks.

Ill take a 25 goal 4th liner any day.
- MBFlyerfan

My point seems to have been missed. Production is based upon ice time, the more you get the more points you will have. Not a law of nature, but one of probabilities.

When Schenn received less ice time, he had less points. When he set career highs in total ice time, he set career high in points.

If he was a 3rd or 4th line player he would have less points.

I never explain myself because I forget no one else is in my head going through my thought processes with me. My wife hates it too.

It makes sense that teams aren't looking for a 26 goal, 59 point scorer, and a player who has increased his point totals every season of his career. A player like that obviously would have no value in a trade.
- MJL

Yet, he's still unsigned.

Is he a 59 point player or did he have one season where he put up 59 points?

One season of almost 60 points doesn't make him a lock for 60 points each season.

As his ice time has gone up, his point production has gone up. He's not getting powerplay time as well. Schenn put up 22 power play points this year. He was 8 points shy of Giroux in total points and beat out Voracek by 4 points. Is he as good as Giroux or is he better than Voracek?

Only Simmonds had more powerplay goals than Schenn.

Brayden Schenn 2015-2016 PHI C 80 26 33 59 PPG-11 PPP -22 SH% -14.6 Ice Time - 16:53 Shifts per game - 21.5

Brayden Schenn 2014-2015 PHI C 82 18 29 47 PPG-7 PPP-19 SH%-11.5 Ice Time - 17:04 21.3

Brayden Schenn 2013-2014 PHI C 82 20 21 41 PPG-4 PPP-9 SH%-11.2 Ice Time - 15:44 20.1

Brayden Schenn 2012-2013 PHI C 47 8 18 26 PPG-2 PPP-10 SH%-10.1 Ice Time - 15:31 19.7

Admittedly, the shift in ice time argument I was attempting to make might dovetail into line mates, something that would be much more important. Who he plays with during those minutes would mean a great deal more then the amount of minutes he spent on the ice.

That would require research I have no desire to do. So I must withdraw my argument.

Its good news to us though.. A third party in arbitration is clearly going to award him 4th line money.
- jak521

Well that doesn't make sense. Arbitration rewards are based on previous production.

Kyle Palmieri 5 years $4.65M AAV

That's likely Schenn's comp
- PhillySportsGuy

I still stand by Schenn at 4mil tops.