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Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Jul 6 @ 3:42 PM ET

- Symba007


yeah - I disliked him growing up!
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Jul 6 @ 3:42 PM ET
The bolded will be VERY good.
- Scabeh

Yeah and that Sanheim kid is a points machine too.

Flyers have quality future D il give em that.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 6 @ 3:44 PM ET
Yeah and that Sanheim kid is a points machine too.

Flyers have quality future D il give em that.

- Lucas.Neilson


Thank god they don't have a decent goaltender since... hmmm Bernard PArent?
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Jul 6 @ 3:45 PM ET
Thank god they don't have a decent goaltender since... hmmm Bernard PArent?
- Scabeh


yeah the flyers have struggled between the pipes for a hell of a long time.

my favorite was the playoffs vs pens

Bryz vs Snowflake
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Jul 6 @ 3:46 PM ET
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=59655

151 points in junior in his draft year. I believe he won the OHL scoring title (could be wrong on that one).

But hey, he's still playing hockey!

Edit: It's crazy how that guy never actually had a real chance on the NHL.... never more than a couple of games here and there despite putting up decent numbers in the AHL.

- Scabeh


His first year of draft eligibility he only had 43 points in 55 gp. Marner had 126 in 63 gp.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Jul 6 @ 3:49 PM ET
Pavel Brendl.
- PepinoPamplemousse


Different era, and so is Locke really. Stack Marner's 17 yo season against guys over the past decade. He stacks up really well.

Points
Rank Player Team Points
1 Pavel Brendl Calgary 134
2 Dylan Gyori Tri-City 118
2 Brad Moran Calgary 118
4 Chad Hinz Moose Jaw 117
5 Scott Gomez Tri-City 108
6 Shawn McNeil Red Deer 103
7 Brett McLean 2 teams 101
8 Bret DeCecco Seattle 100
9 Ryan Robson Brandon 94
10 Oleg Saprykin Seattle 93

I would venture to say that firstly, many of these guys went bust because the NHL changed its rules after the lockout, plus, really, one can also say the quality of players in the WHL that year were obviously poop.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 6 @ 3:49 PM ET
His first year of draft eligibility he only had 43 points in 55 gp. Marner had 126 in 63 gp.
- mykokes


Ok then. Good job comparing the two.

I had no intention to do so.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 6 @ 3:50 PM ET
TJ Brennan was the best defense in the AHL and definetely has a future in the NHL with the Flyers.

- Eklund

What a mistake by Lou and Shanny!

- Scabeh



Can't defend for poop. Was a disaster in the playoffs.

Won't miss him.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 6 @ 3:50 PM ET
Flyers have 2 if not 3 top notch prospects on D ready to come up ON TOP of the Ghost.

Provorov
Sanheim
Morin

AHL Brennan will be the case.

- Lucas.Neilson


To be fair if you want to keep Brennan in the NHL to be a 6/7 PP specialist playing ~10 mins a night that's not the worst thing... he's not going to get much time 5v5 or 4v5 though...
PepinoPamplemousse
Carolina Hurricanes
Joined: 01.18.2009

Jul 6 @ 3:51 PM ET
Different era, and so is Locke really. Stack Marner's 17 yo season against guys over the past decade. He stacks up really well.
- mykokes

PAVEL (frank)ING BRENDL
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 6 @ 3:51 PM ET
https://twitter.com/burnz...status/750776996934934529

Marner drill.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Jul 6 @ 3:53 PM ET
PAVEL (frank)ING BRENDL
- PepinoPamplemousse


What about PAVEL (frank)ING BRENDL do you want me to notice?
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Jul 6 @ 3:54 PM ET
Ok then. Good job comparing the two.

I had no intention to do so.

- Scabeh


.....didn't you bring up Corey Locke in the first place? I'm just saying Locke's 150 point season technically wasn't his draft year....it got him drafted though.

Locke was actually one of the first AHL players i ever interviewed, seemed like a guy headed to the NHL at the time, but there was some background chatter in Hamilton that he wasn't quite dedicated to his trade.
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Jul 6 @ 3:54 PM ET
To be fair if you want to keep Brennan in the NHL to be a 6/7 PP specialist playing ~10 mins a night that's not the worst thing... he's not going to get much time 5v5 or 4v5 though...
- lumlums


could go that route - quite possible.

flyers gotta get rid of that macdonald contract, its terrible.

they signed Gudas not long ago.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jul 6 @ 3:56 PM ET
could go that route - quite possible.

flyers gotta get rid of that macdonald contract, its terrible.

they signed Gudas not long ago.

- Lucas.Neilson


Since when do they Flyers have a bad contract
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 6 @ 4:08 PM ET
.....didn't you bring up Corey Locke in the first place? I'm just saying Locke's 150 point season technically wasn't his draft year....it got him drafted though.

Locke was actually one of the first AHL players i ever interviewed, seemed like a guy headed to the NHL at the time, but there was some background chatter in Hamilton that he wasn't quite dedicated to his trade.

- mykokes


Perhaps, I never fully understood how this guy managed to fail.

I only brought Locke up as an exemple because someone mentionned being small doesn't matter because "Johnny Hockey".

Maybe I'm wrong, but size does matter, the very talented ones will manage to make it to the NHL and have success in this league, but history has shown us numerous small players dominating junior or the AHL and never have the same impact in the NHL.

This, in no way, means Marner won't make it. Hell I love that player and think he'll be a great asset for the Leafs. But I'm always more careful when it comes to small players transitionning to professional hockey because sometimes they just can't adapt their game to the next level.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 6 @ 4:14 PM ET
Question:

You have two sons. One is getting married the SAME day as the other is playing for Wales at the Euros in the semi finals. Which son do you go see?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 6 @ 4:16 PM ET
Question:

You have two sons. One is getting married the SAME day as the other is playing for Wales at the Euros in the semi finals. Which son do you go see?

- Aaron_85


The one getting married.

It's only football/soccer.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Jul 6 @ 4:17 PM ET
Perhaps, I never fully understood how this guy managed to fail.

I only brought Locke up as an exemple because someone mentionned being small doesn't matter because "Johnny Hockey".

Maybe I'm wrong, but size does matter, the very talented ones will manage to make it to the NHL and have success in this league, but history has shown us numerous small players dominating junior or the AHL and never have the same impact in the NHL.

This, in no way, means Marner won't make it. Hell I love that player and think he'll be a great asset for the Leafs. But I'm always more careful when it comes to small players transitionning to professional hockey because sometimes they just can't adapt their game to the next level.

- Scabeh


You're right on this front for sure, but I think with this whole "analytics" movement and "puck possession" , we're seeing a lot more of those smaller players getting longer looks that guys like Corey Locke never really got.

Also some interesting numbers about avg. weight going lower the last ten years in this article:
https://hockey-graphs.com...-to-2014-15-a-brief-look/

The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 6 @ 4:22 PM ET
Question:

You have two sons. One is getting married the SAME day as the other is playing for Wales at the Euros in the semi finals. Which son do you go see?

- Aaron_85


My son getting married must also be Welsh so there's no (frank)ing way he's missing the game either. We're going together !!
PepinoPamplemousse
Carolina Hurricanes
Joined: 01.18.2009

Jul 6 @ 4:56 PM ET
Question:

You have two sons. One is getting married the SAME day as the other is playing for Wales at the Euros in the semi finals. Which son do you go see?

- Aaron_85


The wedding. Like (frank) is Wales ever winning at anything, ever.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jul 6 @ 5:06 PM ET
Question:

You have two sons. One is getting married the SAME day as the other is playing for Wales at the Euros in the semi finals. Which son do you go see?

- Aaron_85


The wedding. Anybody who chooses sports over family is a serious d-bag, unless their family is full of d-bags.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 6 @ 5:08 PM ET
The wedding. Anybody who chooses sports over family is a serious d-bag, unless their family is full of d-bags.
- TheMussel


The other son is family, are they not?

This is a legit situation and I think the parents picked the soccer game, which they lost.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jul 6 @ 5:15 PM ET
The other son is family, are they not?

This is a legit situation and I think the parents picked the soccer game, which they lost.

- Aaron_85


They are family for sure, but the Wedding is a family event, where you grow your family, and see your extended family, and welcome a new person into your family, and the game is a sporting event where you watch one of your kids run around for an hour.
Kurtsy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: North sydney, NS
Joined: 05.11.2015

Jul 6 @ 5:16 PM ET
Middleton looks like hes 35
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