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richardson30
New York Rangers
Joined: 06.07.2012

Jul 6 @ 9:58 AM ET
So I know I am in the minority here, but I think our roster actually looks pretty good.

Nash - Brass - Zucc
Kreider - Step - Buch
Miller - Hayes - Jensen/AHL call up
Grabner - Lindberg - Fast/Gerbe

McD - G
Skjei - Klein
Staal - McIlrath


If they go back to the old D system I think we actually have a decent team. especially when you consider that we have a top 3 goalie and a bunch of vets that have been through a long playoff race. I would rather be overly optimistic than give up on the team before the season even starts.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 6 @ 9:58 AM ET
So you want to make Girardi a healthy scratch all season? What about the offseason, is he not allowed to leave his house?
- TPC

mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 6 @ 10:00 AM ET
He's solid on the PK, or at least he was when he was with the Isles. 15 is probably an unfair expectation for him on the 4th line but 10 isn't unattainable. He had 9 in 80 games with TOR last season.
- eichiefs9


Yeah, if he could reach 10, and do better than Stalberg did on the PK, it was a smart move that makes the team better. Stalberg I think had 9-10 last year but was not so great on the PK.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 6 @ 10:01 AM ET

- mdw7413

(frank) you guys I quit hockeybuzz
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 6 @ 10:02 AM ET
I'm just stating that there is a risk to having Girardi play.

If you remember back when Brad Richards was on the team, one of the biggest debates during the summer was whether to give Richards an opportunity to bounce back or to use the compliance buyout that summer to avoid injury risk. The Rangers ultimately decided to give Richards another chance only to buy him out the following season, but could you imagine if Richards was injured and we were unable to use a compliance buyout on him?

- rangerdanger94


Yeah, but Girardi has also been an ironman. Look how many games he has missed in his career. Obviously anything can happen, but we arent talking about a guy who has an injury history here.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 6 @ 10:03 AM ET
(frank) you guys I quit hockeybuzz
- rangerdanger94


Not leaving his house got me.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 6 @ 10:03 AM ET
(frank) you guys I quit hockeybuzz
- rangerdanger94

jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 6 @ 10:03 AM ET
(frank) you guys I quit hockeybuzz
- rangerdanger94


TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 6 @ 10:04 AM ET
I'm just stating that there is a risk to having Girardi play.

If you remember back when Brad Richards was on the team, one of the biggest debates during the summer was whether to give Richards an opportunity to bounce back or to use the compliance buyout that summer to avoid injury risk. The Rangers ultimately decided to give Richards another chance only to buy him out the following season, but could you imagine if Richards was injured and we were unable to use a compliance buyout on him?

- rangerdanger94

I mean I understand there is always an injury risk. But at the same time what if Girardi does bounce back and plays solid hockey next year. Then that risk of a buyout might not matter anyway.

I work under the assumption you can't let injuries scare you. Yea there is a time to be smart and if Girardi shows next year that he still sucks, then maybe you can reassess and consider it.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 6 @ 10:11 AM ET
So I know I am in the minority here, but I think our roster actually looks pretty good.

Nash - Brass - Zucc
Kreider - Step - Buch
Miller - Hayes - Jensen/AHL call up
Grabner - Lindberg - Fast/Gerbe

McD - G
Skjei - Klein
Staal - McIlrath


If they go back to the old D system I think we actually have a decent team. especially when you consider that we have a top 3 goalie and a bunch of vets that have been through a long playoff race. I would rather be overly optimistic than give up on the team before the season even starts.

- richardson30


Lindberg is out till almost Christmas I think, and I think you have some high hopes for Buchnevich. I still would love to see a trade somehow for a top 6 winger before the start of the season.
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

Jul 6 @ 10:19 AM ET
Also another thing to keep in mind regarding Mcilrath, from Jimbos buddy @hockeystatminer

He has to play 42 games this season or he becomes a UFA next year not a RFA

richardson30
New York Rangers
Joined: 06.07.2012

Jul 6 @ 10:20 AM ET
Lindberg is out till almost Christmas I think, and I think you have some high hopes for Buchnevich. I still would love to see a trade somehow for a top 6 winger before the start of the season.
- mdw7413

IMO you have to play Buch in a top 6 role. I refuse to watch him play with Hayes as neither play much D. I put Buch with Step to balance them out. and I would put Kreider on that line to protect both. either way, I think we have some nice talent on this team, all starting from the back. simply having hank in net I think we are a shoe in for 35 wins. the rest of the team needs to contribute to get the rest.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 6 @ 10:20 AM ET
Also another thing to keep in mind regarding Mcilrath, from Jimbos buddy @hockeystatminer

He has to play 42 games this season or he becomes a UFA next year not a RFA

- mrn22


I don't know how it happens I always get into these little wars, I am a really nice guy I swear
NYRangers1124
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 07.24.2008

Jul 6 @ 10:20 AM ET
Lindberg is out till almost Christmas I think, and I think you have some high hopes for Buchnevich. I still would love to see a trade somehow for a top 6 winger before the start of the season.
- mdw7413

seriously, bc out of that lineup nothing brings back a top 6 forward. if they could the deal would probably include nash, then your essentially swapping top 6 spots. and w/ the rangers reportedly getting pennies for nash, i dont think another F is coming
richardson30
New York Rangers
Joined: 06.07.2012

Jul 6 @ 10:21 AM ET
Also another thing to keep in mind regarding Mcilrath, from Jimbos buddy @hockeystatminer

He has to play 42 games this season or he becomes a UFA next year not a RFA

- mrn22

FANTASTIC! so their hand is forced. good. hopefully Beuk will know how to use him correctly and he will progress even more.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 6 @ 10:22 AM ET
seriously, bc out of that lineup nothing brings back a top 6 forward. if they could the deal would probably include nash, then your essentially swapping top 6 spots. and w/ the rangers reportedly getting pennies for nash, i dont think another F is coming
- NYRangers1124


Hoboken!

mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

Jul 6 @ 10:24 AM ET
FANTASTIC! so their hand is forced. good. hopefully Beuk will know how to use him correctly and he will progress even more.
- richardson30


yup my thought as well.. force their hand a bit
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

Jul 6 @ 10:24 AM ET
I don't know how it happens I always get into these little wars, I am a really nice guy I swear
- jimbro83


idk jimbo you're like a pitbull on twitter
NYRangers1124
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 07.24.2008

Jul 6 @ 10:24 AM ET
Hoboken!


- jimbro83

i chill w. nyrsucks all the time
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 6 @ 10:25 AM ET
seriously, bc out of that lineup nothing brings back a top 6 forward. if they could the deal would probably include nash, then your essentially swapping top 6 spots. and w/ the rangers reportedly getting pennies for nash, i dont think another F is coming
- NYRangers1124


I agree, thats why I wrote "somehow", its probably not going to happen unless it was a struggling 2nd line winger who has great potential.
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

Jul 6 @ 10:28 AM ET
IMO you have to play Buch in a top 6 role. I refuse to watch him play with Hayes as neither play much D. I put Buch with Step to balance them out. and I would put Kreider on that line to protect both. either way, I think we have some nice talent on this team, all starting from the back. simply having hank in net I think we are a shoe in for 35 wins. the rest of the team needs to contribute to get the rest.
- richardson30


supposedly Buch has a great defensive game from what ive read
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 6 @ 10:32 AM ET
idk jimbo you're like a pitbull on twitter
- mrn22


NYRangers1124
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 07.24.2008

Jul 6 @ 10:34 AM ET
I agree, thats why I wrote "somehow", its probably not going to happen unless it was a struggling 2nd line winger who has great potential.
- mdw7413

thats why i bolded it lol
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 6 @ 10:37 AM ET
IMO you have to play Buch in a top 6 role. I refuse to watch him play with Hayes as neither play much D. I put Buch with Step to balance them out. and I would put Kreider on that line to protect both. either way, I think we have some nice talent on this team, all starting from the back. simply having hank in net I think we are a shoe in for 35 wins. the rest of the team needs to contribute to get the rest.
- richardson30


Well his play is going to determine that. I just think its a bit premature to put a guy who hasn't played 1 NHL game in the top 6. Also, Hayes was actually pretty damn good on defense his rookie year.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 6 @ 10:38 AM ET
thats why i bolded it lol
- NYRangers1124


Ok, so we are on the same page then...


*slowly puts shank away*
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