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Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 5 @ 1:09 PM ET
Yes good job, you typed out a couple facts with a sprinkle of opinion. What I am saying is you can talk about scouts and drafts and this and that but I dont really care. I care about that player being on the ice making a difference. Connor Mcdavid played a half season. Eich played 81 games and had more points. So what I am trying to say is that, yes maybe Mcdavid was pegged as "the next one" but until he plays a full season and scores insane amounts of points like you claim he will, I am more than happy with Jack Eichel being the franchise center who brings a cup to Buffalo.
- ASU_Sabres14



You mean a guy with Eichel as his avatar couldn't possibly stomach that McDavid is better?

Shocker.

But you said you try to check your homer bias...
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 5 @ 1:09 PM ET
Gerbe's stop...
- Stripes77


no it's true
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 5 @ 1:10 PM ET
Yes good job, you typed out a couple facts with a sprinkle of opinion. What I am saying is you can talk about scouts and drafts and this and that but I dont really care. I care about that player being on the ice making a difference. Connor Mcdavid played a half season. Eich played 81 games and had more points. So what I am trying to say is that, yes maybe Mcdavid was pegged as "the next one" but until he plays a full season and scores insane amounts of points like you claim he will, I am more than happy with Jack Eichel being the franchise center who brings a cup to Buffalo.

edit: this argument started over a post saying Benn and Seguin are as good if not better than Eich will be. Had nothing to do with Mcdavid originally.

- ASU_Sabres14

It actually started by asking if we could score as much as them. Which we won't this year IMO. Because they have 2 guys close to Eichel (They are better than Eichel today)
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 5 @ 1:10 PM ET
no it's true
- GERBE!!!75PTS



It is not true first of all.

Second of all there's a place to get into that...it's not here.

Third of all you could say the same thing if Hillary wins and then I would have you look at my first point.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 5 @ 1:12 PM ET
Eichel will be the best player in the league by 26yrs old
- ASU_Sabres14

Probably not.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 5 @ 1:13 PM ET
It is not true first of all.

Second of all there's a place to get into that...it's not here.

Third of all you could say the same thing if Hillary wins and then I would have you look at my first point.

- Stripes77


They're both morons but Trump is the biggest of them all I don't support racism and he does... I don't support banning people when they didn't do anything wrong and he does...

There's no real winner here but at least there won't be a war the second he hits office
ASU_Sabres14
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tempe, AZ
Joined: 05.04.2015

Jul 5 @ 1:14 PM ET
You mean a guy with Eichel as his avatar couldn't possibly stomach that McDavid is better?

Shocker.

But you said you try to check your homer bias...

- Stripes77

This is exactly what I am talking about. Better is an opinion unless you have stats. Maybe mcdavid has tons more skill than Eich, im not arguing that. Im saying ill take the guy who very obviously showed in year one he is ready for the NHL. Mcdavid could have 150pts in 65 games but if his team loses the other 17 then who cares? Individual accomplishments are nice but I (previously referred to as homer) only want a Cup in Buffalo. Mcdavid can win ten hart trophies for all I care but Im confident Eichel can bring the cup home.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 5 @ 1:16 PM ET
They're both morons but Trump is the biggest of them all I don't support racism and he does... I don't support banning people when they didn't do anything wrong and he does...

There's no real winner here but at least there won't be a war the second he hits office

- GERBE!!!75PTS



This is why you have much to learn...

But like I said this isn't the place to get into it.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 5 @ 1:16 PM ET
This is exactly what I am talking about. Better is an opinion unless you have stats. Maybe mcdavid has tons more skill than Eich, im not arguing that. Im saying ill take the guy who very obviously showed in year one he is ready for the NHL. Mcdavid could have 150pts in 65 games but if his team loses the other 17 then who cares? Individual accomplishments are nice but I (previously referred to as homer) only want a Cup in Buffalo. Mcdavid can win ten hart trophies for all I care but Im confident Eichel can bring the cup home.
- ASU_Sabres14

McDavid is better than Eichel. It is not an opinion, last year proved it to be factual.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jul 5 @ 1:17 PM ET
It actually started by asking if we could score as much as them. Which we won't this year IMO. Because they have 2 guys close to Eichel (They are better than Eichel today)
- sbroads24


Don't really care that much for the Dallas is better than Buffalo debate because at this point they are, but anyone who doesn't think Dallas has a Defenseman as good as Risto should look up John Klingberg's stats from last year. Damn near played himself into the Norris Trophy Running.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 5 @ 1:17 PM ET
They're both morons but Trump is the biggest of them all I don't support racism and he does... I don't support banning people when they didn't do anything wrong and he does...

There's no real winner here but at least there won't be a war the second he hits office

- GERBE!!!75PTS

Except they both are not. One is actually incredibly smart.

You can argue whether they are good candidates or not, but saying they are on the same playing field in terms of intelligence is a false equivalency
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 5 @ 1:18 PM ET
McDavid is better than Eichel. It is not an opinion, last year proved it to be factual.
- Mentalorgasm5



Not according to HIS OPINION...
Charlie Conway
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 12.28.2006

Jul 5 @ 1:19 PM ET
I think Reinhart will be an absolute stud. He's a guy you have to watch a lot to really understand how good he is. He makes plays so easily and must have eyes in the back of his head. After that you have ROR who I would take over Spezza everyday of the week. Who says Dallas is the model franchise either? I dont see a Risto on their team.
- ASU_Sabres14


Klingberg > Risto
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jul 5 @ 1:19 PM ET
They're both morons but Trump is the biggest of them all I don't support racism and he does... I don't support banning people when they didn't do anything wrong and he does...

There's no real winner here but at least there won't be a war the second he hits office

- GERBE!!!75PTS


I think you need to do a little homework on this stuff.
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jul 5 @ 1:20 PM ET
Just watch his goals again, just silly.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvIQABKUPHE
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 5 @ 1:20 PM ET
Except they both are not. One is actually incredibly smart.

You can argue whether they are good candidates or not, but saying they are on the same playing field in terms of intelligence is a false equivalency

- sbroads24



Both graduated from Ivy league schools

But it depends on your definition of smart haha
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 5 @ 1:20 PM ET
You're going to regret that decision

Half of America will be doing this

http://youtu.be/Bf3e9Cl1-Bs

- GERBE!!!75PTS


Coming from you that means nothing
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 5 @ 1:21 PM ET
I think you need to do a little homework on this stuff.
- laughs2907



He has much to learn.

He watches the news for his education is my guess.

I like the kid I really do but he has much to learn.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 5 @ 1:21 PM ET
They're both morons but Trump is the biggest of them all I don't support racism and he does... I don't support banning people when they didn't do anything wrong and he does...

There's no real winner here but at least there won't be a war the second he hits office

- GERBE!!!75PTS

The real winner is me, when I don't have to listen to you anymore
ASU_Sabres14
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tempe, AZ
Joined: 05.04.2015

Jul 5 @ 1:21 PM ET
Not according to HIS OPINION...
- Stripes77

You're totally correct. In my opinion its more valuable to have a player play an entire season rather than half.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 5 @ 1:22 PM ET
Not according to HIS OPINION...
- Stripes77

He has stated nothing but a personal opinion, yet mocks your facts you posted??
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 5 @ 1:22 PM ET
I think you need to do a little homework on this stuff.
- laughs2907

He's another 20 something that's warped, he's clueless.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 5 @ 1:22 PM ET
You're totally correct. In my opinion its more valuable to have a player play an entire season rather than half.
- ASU_Sabres14



Valuable yes but that doesn't answer who the better player is...

Which again was what we were talking about.

Moving on now
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 5 @ 1:24 PM ET
You're totally correct. In my opinion its more valuable to have a player play an entire season rather than half.
- ASU_Sabres14

Well you would have to factor in the opportunity cost of the player that is being inserted into the lineup when McDavid is out.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 5 @ 1:25 PM ET
The real winner is me, when I don't have to listen to you anymore
- SABRES 89



There is no winner we all lose
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