I'm sure you would turn down the money too. Your just a fan its his life. If he wants to play in Minnesota or wants to bank more cash for retirements its his choice.

Anyone else have a bad feeling about the goalie controversy going into the season.
- nh4442

nope. feel better to be honest. people undervalue how much having a great mentor goalie to learn from is for a young goalie. fleury staying will make murray a better goalie

Anyone else have a bad feeling about the goalie controversy going into the season.
- nh4442

Nope not at all. Honestly, I'd have a bad feeling if we were putting all of the eggs in Murray's basket right away. The bad feeling would come from uncertainty.

I'm sure you would turn down the money too. Your just a fan its his life. If he wants to play in Minnesota or wants to bank more cash for retirements its his choice.
- sditulli

That and the fact that it was reported that it isn't really a money issue, he just wants to finish his career with his hometown team.

nope. feel better to be honest. people undervalue how much having a great mentor goalie to learn from is for a young goalie. fleury staying will make murray a better goalie
- martox

I agree. I'm also a big fan of the competition it creates for ice time, they both want the net so they will both be pushing each other to be better trying to earn that time. I could see where there could be long term issues but since this is a 1 season at most situation I see it as a very good thing.

Cullen waiting on Minnesota?

Fvck Him then, its not like he's made the league minimum his whole career and he's also not a 3 million dollar man even if we had capspace

The fact he won't resign for a million and play in an environment and role that suited him perfectly speaks volumes

Don't let the door hit you on the way out Matt, times like this I never feel sorry for players - Chase every $$$ you can, This year you'll be home by the end of April
- TheGame316

Cullen was not only a key element to the Pens cup win, him and his sons made for a great feel good story. He knows the Pens can't offer him more than $1M for next season. If Minnesota wants to offer him $3M he should absolutely take it. He earned the right to do whatever he wants next season.

There is also the fact that Derrick Pouliot is just as likely to be traded as he is getting a jersey on a nightly basis.

I love the fact that there's absolutely no evidence to suggest that Pouliot might be traded and if anything GMJR's comments suggest he won't but RW is so butthurt that Pouliot's charts are awesome and he hasn't seen much ice time, he just had to create something that isn't even close to true to support his agenda.

Anyone else have a bad feeling about the goalie controversy going into the season.
- nh4442

No. Flower will be starting, but his strarts will substantially decrease. Im guessing he'll play 45 games.

I love the fact that there's absolutely no evidence to suggest that Pouliot might be traded and if anything GMJR's comments suggest he won't but RW is so butthurt that Pouliot's charts are awesome and he hasn't seen much ice time, he just had to create something that isn't even close to true to support his agenda.
- jaydogg1974

To be fair, there are definitely rumors about the Pens not being thrilled with his progress and wanting to move him while he still has some value. DKOPS is one for certain.

Speaking of Minny, remeber when Shero offered Parise & Suter those big deals....it makes me wonder how our roster would have looked like if they had signed those deals....

Cullen waiting on Minnesota?

Fvck Him then, its not like he's made the league minimum his whole career and he's also not a 3 million dollar man even if we had capspace

The fact he won't resign for a million and play in an environment and role that suited him perfectly speaks volumes

Don't let the door hit you on the way out Matt, times like this I never feel sorry for players - Chase every $$$ you can, This year you'll be home by the end of April
- TheGame316

How salty... We're so cap crunched we may not even want to give him a million and that's why he's moving on. We don't know. Guy was great for us last year and we don't particularly need him this year. If he decides to move on I will love him for the time he was with us and hold no grudges.

To be fair, there are definitely rumors about the Pens not being thrilled with his progress and wanting to move him while he still has some value. DKOPS is one for certain.
- Tojo.

Really? I read DKPS everyday and while I've seen several reports from Yohe & DK about the team not being pleased with his progression, I don't recall ever seeing them say the team wanted to move him while he still had value, I guess I'll have to read a little closer.

I do though remember Yohe posting this quote from JR in last Friday's Insider and it surely doesn't should like a player they want to trade.

“He could really be key for us,” Rutherford said. “First of all, I’m very comfortable with him being in the top six right now. He’s a very talented player.”

Cullen waiting on Minnesota?

Fvck Him then, its not like he's made the league minimum his whole career and he's also not a 3 million dollar man even if we had capspace

The fact he won't resign for a million and play in an environment and role that suited him perfectly speaks volumes

Don't let the door hit you on the way out Matt, times like this I never feel sorry for players - Chase every $$$ you can, This year you'll be home by the end of April
- TheGame316

Here we have why pens fans are called whiny.

RW your ideas for players leave much to be desired, stick to your charts and graphs. Wiz has been done for 2 years, he's so injury prone no one will touch him now.

That and the fact that it was reported that it isn't really a money issue, he just wants to finish his career with his hometown team.
- jaydogg1974

What a jerk!

How salty... We're so cap crunched we may not even want to give him a million and that's why he's moving on. We don't know. Guy was great for us last year and we don't particularly need him this year. If he decides to move on I will love him for the time he was with us and hold no grudges.
- Victoro311

Saw a report that the Pens have a 1y-1.2M offer on the table for Cullen, not sure how accurate the report is but just throwing that out there.

Really? I read DKPS everyday and while I've seen several reports from Yohe & DK about the team not being pleased with his progression, I don't recall ever seeing them say the team wanted to move him while he still had value, I guess I'll have to read a little closer.

I do though remember Yohe posting this quote from JR in last Friday's Insider and it surely doesn't should like a player they want to trade.

“He could really be key for us,” Rutherford said. “First of all, I’m very comfortable with him being in the top six right now. He’s a very talented player.”
- jaydogg1974

What would you expect him to say?

"Well, he was drafted high and had a great WHL career, but we've been very displeased with his play at the pro level and look forward to trading him," probably isn't the best way to maximize his return.

How salty... We're so cap crunched we may not even want to give him a million and that's why he's moving on. We don't know. Guy was great for us last year and we don't particularly need him this year. If he decides to move on I will love him for the time he was with us and hold no grudges.
- Victoro311

Amen to that.

"Be careful ... Dcoms will be all over you. He gave me a list of names ahead of Percy in Toronto and only two of them were good. We shall see. Maybe a change of scenery does him well, but I'm not that hopeful to be honest. Hope he proves me wrong."


Coming from the guy who a year ago said Dumoulin would never be anything more than a 7-8 depth dman AHL player I'm gonna go ahead not care one bit about your player evaluations. Toronto is my hometown team and a lot of their fans once thought Percy was going to be the next Riley. Toronto has too many defensive prospects and too many contracts overall that's why they didn't qualify a few players they normally would have held onto.

Really? I read DKPS everyday and while I've seen several reports from Yohe & DK about the team not being pleased with his progression, I don't recall ever seeing them say the team wanted to move him while he still had value, I guess I'll have to read a little closer.

I do though remember Yohe posting this quote from JR in last Friday's Insider and it surely doesn't should like a player they want to trade.

“He could really be key for us,” Rutherford said. “First of all, I’m very comfortable with him being in the top six right now. He’s a very talented player.”
- jaydogg1974

It was DK's opinion on Pouliot.....that the Pens should move him. Nothing more than that.

There's have been multiple "rumors" saying that his work ethic is lacking too. Just rumors at this point.

Edit... I do think if the Pens had cap space for a more established D, we'd probably see DP moved.

Really? I read DKPS everyday and while I've seen several reports from Yohe & DK about the team not being pleased with his progression, I don't recall ever seeing them say the team wanted to move him while he still had value, I guess I'll have to read a little closer.

I do though remember Yohe posting this quote from JR in last Friday's Insider and it surely doesn't should like a player they want to trade.

“He could really be key for us,” Rutherford said. “First of all, I’m very comfortable with him being in the top six right now. He’s a very talented player.”
- jaydogg1974

I'm sure I've seen it there, more in the playoffs then recently though. I have also seen the quotes from Rutherford about being comfortable, but I take them with a grain of salt. You can't be both displeased with his progress and very comfortable with him in the starting 6. If I were to guess, the truth is they don't hate the idea of starting with him, but would like to improve and would move him. And I doubt he's still on the untouchable list as he was earlier.

Personally, I see no reason to trade Pouliot.

I'm sure I've seen it there, more in the playoffs then recently though. I have also seen the quotes from Rutherford about being comfortable, but I take them with a grain of salt. You can't be both displeased with his progress and very comfortable with him in the starting 6. If I were to guess, the truth is they don't hate the idea of starting with him, but would like to improve and would move him. And I doubt he's still on the untouchable list as he was earlier.

Personally, I see no reason to trade Pouliot.
- Tojo.

But there's nothing but rumors and hearsay that they're displeased with his progress while there is actual quotes that backup them being comfortable with him and thinking he could be a key to the teams success. I get that no GM is going to come straight out and say "we're not happy with his progression and would like to trade him" but I'll still take direct quotes over a reporter's opinion of how he thinks someone else might be thinking any day of the week, until they do something that suggests they're looking to move him(sign someone that might threaten his position) I'll firmly say that making a statement like " There is also the fact that Derrick Pouliot is just as likely to be traded as he is getting a jersey on a nightly basis." is complete BS.

It was DK's opinion on Pouliot.....that the Pens should move him. Nothing more than that.

There's have been multiple "rumors" saying that his work ethic is lacking too. Just rumors at this point.

Edit... I do think if the Pens had cap space for a more established D, we'd probably see DP moved.
- madmike71

I'm not really sure about that because they could easily clear some cap space to make a move possible if they really felt that way. The way I see it is that they're comfortable giving Pouliot his chance to shine and if he doesn't they have plenty of spot-gap players like Warsofsky/Erixon/Olesky to hold down the fort short term until they can find an in-season solution, I don't get the feeling they're even actively looking at more established players at this point.

Wis at close to league minimum is ok with me. He'll be sheltered like Schultz was so there's less of a risk for injury

But there's nothing but rumors and hearsay that they're displeased with his progress while there is actual quotes that backup them being comfortable with him and thinking he could be a key to the teams success. I get that no GM is going to come straight out and say "we're not happy with his progression and would like to trade him" but I'll still take direct quotes over a reporter's opinion of how he thinks someone else might be thinking any day of the week, until they do something that suggests they're looking to move him(sign someone that might threaten his position) I'll firmly say that making a statement like " There is also the fact that Derrick Pouliot is just as likely to be traded as he is getting a jersey on a nightly basis." is complete BS.
- jaydogg1974

It's all speculation either way. I just don't think RW was pulling this out of nowhere. Unless he has a lot more reade value then I think, I can't think of a good reason to trade him myself. At worst he exaggerated as there is a very real chance he won't be wearing a jersey on a nightly basis, although I'd agree that depends on if they add another experienced option.