Is that Guy LaDouche as your AVI?
- Mr.Bobby

Right you are, Ken!

No your right Hedman is the best possible outcome ... the guy is a beast, but why other than crying over loosing Hall is everyone so certain he can't come close?? So sick of hearing about him only putting up 18 points last year in NJ as a 23 YEAR OLD! Come on people look into it a little deeper than that.... this kid has all the makings of a stud dman in this league. Now Hendo is comparing his point total from last year to Seabrook?? Come on ... lets qualify some of these comparisons
- GWnorth

Which current top end defensemen had never put up more than 24 points at age 23? I've seen an Erik Johnson comparison. Johnson had multiple 30+ point seasons by 23. Larsson is, at best, a young Hjarmalsson. The fact Oilers traded Hall for him and need him to be better doesn't change that.

You sell our defence short. Weird to say that.

Klefbom is improving in leaps and bounds and if healthy should put up some points.

Larson will eventually be at least a 35-40 point guy IMO it's just a matter of when.

Sekera is a proven two way guy with great offensive instincts. The guy owns 3v3.

Nurse and Reinhart are a ways off and unlikely to be great point producers but it's far too early to write them off.

Davidson looked damn good both ends of the ice and could improve there as well.

The only guy that I think has zero offense is Fayne.

While Barrie would be great I don't think he will be worth the price.

I would rather sign a bottom pairing stop gap for the PP than pay the current prices.

Hey, hey, hey! Nobody talks to Guy like that with their clothes on! You hear me?
- JBanker

You sell our defence short. Weird to say that.

Klefbom is improving in leaps and bounds and if healthy should put up some points.

Larson will eventually be at least a 35-40 point guy IMO it's just a matter of when.

Sekera is a proven two way guy with great offensive instincts. The guy owns 3v3.

Nurse and Reinhart are a ways off and unlikely to be great point producers but it's far too early to write them off.

Davidson looked damn good both ends of the ice and could improve there as well.

The only guy that I think has zero offense is Fayne.

While Barrie would be great I don't think he will be worth the price.

I would rather sign a bottom pairing stop gap for the PP than pay the current prices.
- Aerchon

There is literally zero reason to think that.

Which current top end defensemen had never put up more than 24 points at age 23? I've seen an Erik Johnson comparison. Johnson had multiple 30+ point seasons by 23. Larsson is, at best, a young Hjarmalsson. The fact Oilers traded Hall for him and need him to be better doesn't change that.
- Antilles

Hedmans best point total in his first 3 FULL seasons was 26 ..... Larsson is 24

There is literally zero reason to think that.
- PepinoPamplemousse

There's precedent to project such. Not guaranteeing it, but he's only 23 and now he'll be passing to McDavid, Draisaitl, Lucic, RNH, Eberle, Piljujarvi, Pouliot, and Yak now instead of Henrique, Palmieri, Cammalleri, and... Zajac? Elias? Smith-Pelly?

There is literally zero reason to think that.
- PepinoPamplemousse

There is alot wrong with that post...

Which current top end defensemen had never put up more than 24 points at age 23? I've seen an Erik Johnson comparison. Johnson had multiple 30+ point seasons by 23. Larsson is, at best, a young Hjarmalsson. The fact Oilers traded Hall for him and need him to be better doesn't change that.
- Antilles

Erik Johnson has had one (1) +30 point season in his career .....

Matt is it true what Ek said that the Wild offered something very good to EDM for RNH but they waited too long to contact them back?

There's precedent to project such. Not guaranteeing it, but he's only 23 and now he'll be passing to McDavid, Draisaitl, Lucic, RNH, Eberle, Piljujarvi, Pouliot, and Yak now instead of Henrique, Palmieri, Cammalleri, and... Zajac? Elias? Smith-Pelly?
- MaximumBone

There is literally zero reason to think that.
- PepinoPamplemousse

Zero reason?

As a 22 year old he had a 30 pt pace (projected over 82 games) playing for an offensively garbage NJD team. I think that counts as a reason. Certainly doesn't guarantee anything but to act like it's something crazy to think the guy could put up 35 points in the future is just plain stupid.

With that said I still think it was a garbage trade.

Erik Johnson has had one (1) +30 point season in his career .....
- GWnorth

Try again man. He also played for the Blues in case you forgot.

Pretty simple formula for defense to get points on the Oilers. Get the puck to McDavid going full speed through the neutral zone. Collect apples all day.

Matt is it true what Ek said that the Wild offered something very good to EDM for RNH but they waited too long to contact them back?
- mnhockeyguy

Last thing reported here was Chia said no to Dumba for RNH. Which is the correct move.

Matt Henderson: House Keeping and Major Renovation
- Matt_Henderson

This team is a bigger dumpster fire than we were prior to the Hall trade.
I have zero faith left in this franchise, (frank) the Oilers and (frank) Katz.

You sell our defence short. Weird to say that.

Klefbom is improving in leaps and bounds and if healthy should put up some points.

Larson will eventually be at least a 35-40 point guy IMO it's just a matter of when.

Sekera is a proven two way guy with great offensive instincts. The guy owns 3v3.

Nurse and Reinhart are a ways off and unlikely to be great point producers but it's far too early to write them off.

Davidson looked damn good both ends of the ice and could improve there as well.

The only guy that I think has zero offense is Fayne.

While Barrie would be great I don't think he will be worth the price.

I would rather sign a bottom pairing stop gap for the PP than pay the current prices.
- Aerchon

Allot of one days, eventually, should be, improving, potential... Just hazarding a guess but I think its put up time as Oiler Nation has heard those descriptors for too long...

Hedmans best point total in his first 3 FULL seasons was 26 ..... Larsson is 24
- GWnorth

Hedman was good enough to play in this league as a teenager, Larsson wasn't. By 23, Hedman was putting up 50+ point seasons. And never put up as few as 18 points.

Erik Johnson has had one (1) +30 point season in his career .....
- GWnorth

07-08 he had 33 points
09-10 he had 39 points
13-14 he had 39 points

Try again man. He also played for the Blues in case you forgot.
- RonPielep

Sorry your right.... missed that.... so he 2 +30 point seasons by 23 on a VERY good STL team

Hedmans best point total in his first 3 FULL seasons was 26 ..... Larsson is 24
- GWnorth

Full seasons or not, in his 4th and 5th year of playing Pro, Hedman was putting up 40-50 point campaigns (1 on pace due to lock out)

Hedman put up 55 in his 5th year, and Larsson put up 18 last year (his 5th season).
Hes still a good dman but he is moving of the potential category to what he is category. And he is a propbably solid Top 4 30 range Dman.

Unless Larsson is going to just jump up 30+ point production, the Hedman comparison probably should cool it a bit

You sell our defence short. Weird to say that.

Klefbom is improving in leaps and bounds and if healthy should put up some points.

Larson will eventually be at least a 35-40 point guy IMO it's just a matter of when.

Sekera is a proven two way guy with great offensive instincts. The guy owns 3v3.

Nurse and Reinhart are a ways off and unlikely to be great point producers but it's far too early to write them off.

Davidson looked damn good both ends of the ice and could improve there as well.

The only guy that I think has zero offense is Fayne.

While Barrie would be great I don't think he will be worth the price.

I would rather sign a bottom pairing stop gap for the PP than pay the current prices.
- Aerchon

Larsson had 18 points last year. 30 points would be a MASSIVE improvement. He can be a good player AND still not enough to make Edmonton's defense good enough because he lacks certain skills. If it was Larsson and Demers I'd say this defense is a lot less leaky but still lacks top end offense.

ONLY adding Larsson means its still leaky (see Fayne, Mark) and not anywhere close to better offensively.

Sorry your right.... missed that.... so he 2 +30 point seasons by 23 on a VERY good STL team
- GWnorth

How is a team that put up fewer points than this years Devils and picked 4th overall "very good"???

Larsson had 18 points last year. 30 points would be a MASSIVE improvement. He can be a good player AND still not enough to make Edmonton's defense good enough because he lacks certain skills. If it was Larsson and Demers I'd say this defense is a lot less leaky but still lacks top end offense.

ONLY adding Larsson means its still leaky (see Fayne, Mark) and not anywhere close to better offensively.
- Matt_Henderson

To be fair, with enough ice time and the Oilers roster of forwards, I think 30 points could happen almost by accident.

To be fair, with enough ice time and the Oilers roster of forwards, I think 30 points could happen almost by accident.
- James_Tanner

You also think last years Oilers were guaranteed to make the playoffs, and that two years ago Coyotes had one of the best defenses in the NHL.

To be fair, with enough ice time and the Oilers roster of forwards, I think 30 points could happen almost by accident.
- James_Tanner

It's not a given that the Oilers are going to put up gaudy offensive numbers next season. I know they have some new guys and there were some key injuries last year but they were in the bottom third in goals for. A lot of that could probably be blamed on an offensively inept defense. Larsson doesn't change that.