Very good. Not worth that package alone, though. Dermott could be just as good. You never know.
- BetterCallSaul

Now how about this? Let's say the leafs know they have one of or the best chance to sign Vesey. The conversation has had to come up with his dad..it'll be never spoken about but they have an idea of what level of interest he would have in this leafs.

Then do you make that deal? Vesey takes JVR's spot

Very good. Not worth that package alone, though. Dermott could be just as good. You never know.
- BetterCallSaul

Dermott might also the next finn.

Doesn't seem that far off given whay other dmen are going for these days imo.

Nope. Eriksson's 30 goals is going to lead to a playoff push

- BetterCallSaul

put it this way, I like the drafting that's happening...but they're in tough to even sniff a wild card spot.

Not according to Vantel.
- Canada Cup

He's old, and a bit crazy

Dermott might also the next finn.

Doesn't seem that far off given whay other dmen are going for these days imo.
- Tumbleweed

JVR and Barrie should be equals in value, all things considered. The scale may tilt toward Barrie because of his RFA status vs. JVR's impending UFA status. He doesn't merit Dermott as a + though.

Dermott might also the next finn.

Doesn't seem that far off given whay other dmen are going for these days imo.
- Tumbleweed

Yeah (frank) it. Barrie is still young too

Thing is, they can't hang on to every single prospect forever. Reality is that there isn't enough room for all of them. It's not the same as past regimes sending prospects and picks for aging vets to win now

I'd probably do JVR and Dermott for Barrie

JVR and Barrie should be equals in value, all things considered. The scale may tilt toward Barrie because of his RFA status vs. JVR's impending UFA status. He doesn't merit Dermott as a + though.
- BetterCallSaul

Unfortunately Hall for Larsson set the bar

JVR is not as good as Hall and Barrie is better than Larsson

Unfortunately Hall for Larsson set the bar

JVR is not as good as Hall and Barrie is better than Larsson
- WingmanWillie

This is a good point. Other GMs can tell Sakic to (frank) off though. That one low ball sell won't set a trend.

Unfortunately Hall for Larsson set the bar

JVR is not as good as Hall and Barrie is better than Larsson
- WingmanWillie

I don't think that trade set the bar. It made GMs think they can get more for D men. But the fact of that matter is 29 other GMs can't be that stupid.(I hope)

Rather do JVR for Dumba straight up

Would anyone like JVR and Gardiner for Pietrangelo?

I don't think that trade set the bar. It made GMs think they can get more for D men. But the fact of that matter is 29 other GMs can't be that stupid.(I hope)
- Santo_44

The Oil have been trying to get a top pairing d-man for years and everyone knew it.

They were always going to get bent over on any deal they made as punishment for all those 1st overall picks they got.

Chia just had the balls to actually pull the trigger.

Would anyone like JVR and Gardiner for Pietrangelo?
- mr.sir

That would never be available, but if it was I would definitely do that.

Piets is a beauty

Rather do JVR for Dumba straight up
- mr.sir

I think something like this is more realistic.

Not sure a winger for dman trade helps the avs.

I think something like this is more realistic.

Not sure a winger for dman trade helps the avs.
- Tumbleweed

JVR could thrive on a Boudreau team.

keep jvr you crazy bastards

JVR could thrive on a Boudreau team.
- BetterCallSaul

On a line with Parise

keep jvr you crazy bastards
- Zezel

Yes...... Unless it gets us a partner for Rielly

keep jvr you crazy bastards
- Zezel

I (frank)in love the guy.

But there's a lot of offense up front on the way. Not so much for a top pairing D

shut the (frank) up and keep jvr

dont be a chia

we need d wa wa wa

shut the (frank) up and keep jvr

dont be a chia

we need d wa wa wa
- Zezel

Rielly gonna pair with Hunwick or Marincin?

Legit af

shut the (frank) up and keep jvr

dont be a chia

we need d wa wa wa
- Zezel

I'm ok with the trade. Screw it.


Oilers rule yes!!!

shut the (frank) up and keep jvr

dont be a chia

we need d wa wa wa
- Zezel

I have his jersey. Winter classic too. Tough to pass up getting a top pairing D man. I hope we don't trade him but at the same time we need a d man badly. Dermott is a good kid but I don't know if he's the type of d man that can turn into a top pairing. More likely a good bet at a 3/4 2nd pairing

I have his jersey. Winter classic too. Tough to pass up getting a top pairing D man. I hope we don't trade him but at the same time we need a d man badly. Dermott is a good kid but I don't know if he's the type of d man that can turn into a top pairing. More likely a good bet at a 3/4 2nd pairing
- Santo_44

hey, I have a JVR winter classic jersey too how much was it worth? my boss gave me it as a gift, now he owns me...

hey, I have a JVR winter classic jersey too how much was it worth? my boss gave me it as a gift, now he owns me...
- mr.sir

Got it as a gift it's a real nice looking jersey. But I believe it cost just under 200$ at the time real ones are expensive

Just got a free Bautista jersey
he may be gone after this season but can't go wrong with free. A friend of mine got it as a gift and didn't want it