He wont get Karlsson offensive numbers but i could see him very quickly moving up in the lines and making a big impact
- Maverick1818

He'll be immediately good skating with the puck, he is extremely smooth through the neutral zone, but playing D in the NHL won't be easy, especially as he'll probably be playing at 20. Chabot will be a top pairing Dman, he might be our best draft pick since EK.

Colin white is also a beauty, this might be our Perry / Getzlaf draft that we've been waiting for.

Yeah I think with White and now Brown drafted, we actually do have some promising young centers coming up. but I think people need to stop thinking Turris is a #1 Center who can compete with the big nhl teams. Turris is a solid #2 center who can fill the #1 position but we wont win a cup with him as a #1
- Maverick1818

I disagree...... I think IF Turris is #1 he could turn out to be a Krejci type. Bruins won with Bergeron and DK has 1/2 and only 1 of them hit 70 points once.
Zibanejad needs to step up and play like a Ryan Kesler; who scored 40 goals once. But that was one year. Other years he hits 25 and plays solid in the playoffs. That's what Zibanejad needs to become.

IF Turris and Zibanejad can do that - with support from Pageau and Lazar sometimes at C - it changes the entire offensive power on this team. I don't think any winger, other than Hoffman, can become a lethal offensive threat.

Finally got around to watching the game action from the dev camp.

Notes while watching the game (3 times):

-O'Connor didn't look good. His size and angles look okay, but he seems to have holes in his stance or something...pucks go through him. Still time to correct that...I hope.

-Brown looks good. Sees the ice very well, but his legs and movement are a concern. I'd like to have him talk to Stone about getting some speed and learning to work around his lack of natural skating. Stone never looks behind the play despite little natural speed. Learning how to read plays from Stone could help him transition to the Pro game better.

- Chabot looks like a pro among amateur players. He certainly doesn't look TOO aggressive, which is something I was worried about. You don't get away with that at the NHL level. Saw him get caught on a pinch, but that seems like a problem of coverage more than his decision making. Results of generally sloppy game.

- Gagne has a very sneaky shot. He gets it away quickly. Once he was healthy last year, he was producing real well, and you can see that as well in the game.

- Didn't notice Erkamps much, which is actually good. He's known for being a stay at home guy. I liked that I didn't see a lot of soft puck movement from him which is sometimes a problem from big stay at home Dmen. Seems to find the right place to be though.

- Hogberg looks big in net and seemed very solid. Needs a bit of work on his left to right movement though. He gets to the left okay, but her seemed slower when going to his right, which could expose his blocker.

- Nick Paul is a GIANT. Seems to get a good head of steam. Has a heavy wrist shot, but don't think I ever saw him win a draw. Not sure he is ever an NHL centre. May be moved and kept at the wing.

- Little surprised to see Englund moving up with the play. When I've seen him before, he's been a VERY stay at home guy.

- Perron, despite being tall, plays a lot of stick work. May be his lack of weight, or build, but could improve by being more close checking. He has amazing view, and seems to find sticks with passes. Can disappear at times, but then he will do something amazing. His goal in the 2nd, he seemed to appear from nowhere in the slot. I've watched him a lot, so this isn't shocking. Probably the most dangerous guy on the ice for the game, despite not being on the strongest line.

- Heard the name Dahlen a lot, and saw that he goes to the net. Brown was trying to hit him often with passes, but had lotsa trouble putting it away. He has a very quick stick. Snakebit this game. Hope it isn't something where he has hundreds of chances, but rarely scores. Think he needs muscle to increase shot power.

- Hear the name Jaros a lot, but he didn't seem to capitalize as much. Glad he is in on the play though.

- Nurmi penalty shot goal showed a decent shot. May hear more of him later. Still young and raw.

I disagree...... I think IF Turris is #1 he could turn out to be a Krejci type. Bruins won with Bergeron and DK has 1/2 and only 1 of them hit 70 points once.
Zibanejad needs to step up and play like a Ryan Kesler; who scored 40 goals once. But that was one year. Other years he hits 25 and plays solid in the playoffs. That's what Zibanejad needs to become.

IF Turris and Zibanejad can do that - with support from Pageau and Lazar sometimes at C - it changes the entire offensive power on this team. I don't think any winger, other than Hoffman, can become a lethal offensive threat.
- AlfieisKing

I kind of agree and kind of disagree. I do think going with a 1-2 punch of good but not great C's is a good idea. but I still think you put Turris up to Malkin, Toews, Backstrum etc he isn't a #1 C.

Boston also had some amazing wingers to go along with them though and D and Goalies. We have the goalies and the D, but we need to beef up our top end

Finally got around to watching the game action from the dev camp.

Notes while watching the game (3 times):

-O'Connor didn't look good. His size and angles look okay, but he seems to have holes in his stance or something...pucks go through him. Still time to correct that...I hope.

-Brown looks good. Sees the ice very well, but his legs and movement are a concern. I'd like to have him talk to Stone about getting some speed and learning to work around his lack of natural skating. Stone never looks behind the play despite little natural speed. Learning how to read plays from Stone could help him transition to the Pro game better.

- Chabot looks like a pro among amateur players. He certainly doesn't look TOO aggressive, which is something I was worried about. You don't get away with that at the NHL level. Saw him get caught on a pinch, but that seems like a problem of coverage more than his decision making. Results of generally sloppy game.

- Gagne has a very sneaky shot. He gets it away quickly. Once he was healthy last year, he was producing real well, and you can see that as well in the game.

- Didn't notice Erkamps much, which is actually good. He's known for being a stay at home guy. I liked that I didn't see a lot of soft puck movement from him which is sometimes a problem from big stay at home Dmen. Seems to find the right place to be though.

- Hogberg looks big in net and seemed very solid. Needs a bit of work on his left to right movement though. He gets to the left okay, but her seemed slower when going to his right, which could expose his blocker.

- Nick Paul is a GIANT. Seems to get a good head of steam. Has a heavy wrist shot, but don't think I ever saw him win a draw. Not sure he is ever an NHL centre. May be moved and kept at the wing.

- Little surprised to see Englund moving up with the play. When I've seen him before, he's been a VERY stay at home guy.

- Perron, despite being tall, plays a lot of stick work. May be his lack of weight, or build, but could improve by being more close checking. He has amazing view, and seems to find sticks with passes. Can disappear at times, but then he will do something amazing. His goal in the 2nd, he seemed to appear from nowhere in the slot. I've watched him a lot, so this isn't shocking. Probably the most dangerous guy on the ice for the game, despite not being on the strongest line.

- Heard the name Dahlen a lot, and saw that he goes to the net. Brown was trying to hit him often with passes, but had lotsa trouble putting it away. He has a very quick stick. Snakebit this game. Hope it isn't something where he has hundreds of chances, but rarely scores. Think he needs muscle to increase shot power.

- Hear the name Jaros a lot, but he didn't seem to capitalize as much. Glad he is in on the play though.

- Nurmi penalty shot goal showed a decent shot. May hear more of him later. Still young and raw.
- MaxTLimit

Lol. Are you a pro scout?

Finally got around to watching the game action from the dev camp.

Notes while watching the game (3 times):

-O'Connor didn't look good. His size and angles look okay, but he seems to have holes in his stance or something...pucks go through him. Still time to correct that...I hope.

-Brown looks good. Sees the ice very well, but his legs and movement are a concern. I'd like to have him talk to Stone about getting some speed and learning to work around his lack of natural skating. Stone never looks behind the play despite little natural speed. Learning how to read plays from Stone could help him transition to the Pro game better.

- Chabot looks like a pro among amateur players. He certainly doesn't look TOO aggressive, which is something I was worried about. You don't get away with that at the NHL level. Saw him get caught on a pinch, but that seems like a problem of coverage more than his decision making. Results of generally sloppy game.

- Gagne has a very sneaky shot. He gets it away quickly. Once he was healthy last year, he was producing real well, and you can see that as well in the game.

- Didn't notice Erkamps much, which is actually good. He's known for being a stay at home guy. I liked that I didn't see a lot of soft puck movement from him which is sometimes a problem from big stay at home Dmen. Seems to find the right place to be though.

- Hogberg looks big in net and seemed very solid. Needs a bit of work on his left to right movement though. He gets to the left okay, but her seemed slower when going to his right, which could expose his blocker.

- Nick Paul is a GIANT. Seems to get a good head of steam. Has a heavy wrist shot, but don't think I ever saw him win a draw. Not sure he is ever an NHL centre. May be moved and kept at the wing.

- Little surprised to see Englund moving up with the play. When I've seen him before, he's been a VERY stay at home guy.

- Perron, despite being tall, plays a lot of stick work. May be his lack of weight, or build, but could improve by being more close checking. He has amazing view, and seems to find sticks with passes. Can disappear at times, but then he will do something amazing. His goal in the 2nd, he seemed to appear from nowhere in the slot. I've watched him a lot, so this isn't shocking. Probably the most dangerous guy on the ice for the game, despite not being on the strongest line.

- Heard the name Dahlen a lot, and saw that he goes to the net. Brown was trying to hit him often with passes, but had lotsa trouble putting it away. He has a very quick stick. Snakebit this game. Hope it isn't something where he has hundreds of chances, but rarely scores. Think he needs muscle to increase shot power.

- Hear the name Jaros a lot, but he didn't seem to capitalize as much. Glad he is in on the play though.

- Nurmi penalty shot goal showed a decent shot. May hear more of him later. Still young and raw.
- MaxTLimit

Thanks for the write up... that's awesome

You guys always do this ... same with Lazar as the next big thing. Dude is a role player only and his ceiling is Mike Fisher, I've always said that. I watched Chabot at the development camp on the weekend and there is a lot to like - big body, decent skater and an ok shot but I saw nothing from any of the prospects that I would call elite. I would compare him to Ceci, not Karlsson. The best kid on the ice was Dahlen, he made something happen every time. Perron was also terrific and didn't look as small as I had read he was. Unless you have a can't miss like a McDavid you have to temper expectations of a new guy coming into a league where the best in the world make a living!!!

Anxiously awaiting a signing. I was kinda hoping to hear of PA Parenteau signed as a #3RW. 40 points last year and 20 goals with the leafs. Only signed a 1 year deal for $1.25M for 1 year. I doubt he'd get that on a Sens 3rd line role, but he does bring some depth. Did not happen, though.

Word is that Colin White may see some time with the Sens next year after Boston College finishes their year in April. Probably not for long enough to burn a year.

Hearing that Chabot is likely to make the team out of camp. Apparently he looked good in the dev. camp.

White interests me. I wonder if he play RW when/ if he is called up or if he slots in at centre replacing Pageau / Turris / ZIbanejad?
- MaxTLimit

As a season ticket holder I was pretty pleased with what they did on July 1st. NOTHING! The money....dear god. The TERM!!! Very few of the players signed by well....anyone were worth the money/term they got.

Sens might be cheap, but I'd call them frugal this time.

Runbladt available on waivers......any takers?

Finally got around to watching the game action from the dev camp.

Notes while watching the game (3 times):

-O'Connor didn't look good. His size and angles look okay, but he seems to have holes in his stance or something...pucks go through him. Still time to correct that...I hope.

-Brown looks good. Sees the ice very well, but his legs and movement are a concern. I'd like to have him talk to Stone about getting some speed and learning to work around his lack of natural skating. Stone never looks behind the play despite little natural speed. Learning how to read plays from Stone could help him transition to the Pro game better.

- Chabot looks like a pro among amateur players. He certainly doesn't look TOO aggressive, which is something I was worried about. You don't get away with that at the NHL level. Saw him get caught on a pinch, but that seems like a problem of coverage more than his decision making. Results of generally sloppy game.

- Gagne has a very sneaky shot. He gets it away quickly. Once he was healthy last year, he was producing real well, and you can see that as well in the game.

- Didn't notice Erkamps much, which is actually good. He's known for being a stay at home guy. I liked that I didn't see a lot of soft puck movement from him which is sometimes a problem from big stay at home Dmen. Seems to find the right place to be though.

- Hogberg looks big in net and seemed very solid. Needs a bit of work on his left to right movement though. He gets to the left okay, but her seemed slower when going to his right, which could expose his blocker.

- Nick Paul is a GIANT. Seems to get a good head of steam. Has a heavy wrist shot, but don't think I ever saw him win a draw. Not sure he is ever an NHL centre. May be moved and kept at the wing.

- Little surprised to see Englund moving up with the play. When I've seen him before, he's been a VERY stay at home guy.

- Perron, despite being tall, plays a lot of stick work. May be his lack of weight, or build, but could improve by being more close checking. He has amazing view, and seems to find sticks with passes. Can disappear at times, but then he will do something amazing. His goal in the 2nd, he seemed to appear from nowhere in the slot. I've watched him a lot, so this isn't shocking. Probably the most dangerous guy on the ice for the game, despite not being on the strongest line.

- Heard the name Dahlen a lot, and saw that he goes to the net. Brown was trying to hit him often with passes, but had lotsa trouble putting it away. He has a very quick stick. Snakebit this game. Hope it isn't something where he has hundreds of chances, but rarely scores. Think he needs muscle to increase shot power.

- Hear the name Jaros a lot, but he didn't seem to capitalize as much. Glad he is in on the play though.

- Nurmi penalty shot goal showed a decent shot. May hear more of him later. Still young and raw.
- MaxTLimit

I disagree

He'll be immediately good skating with the puck, he is extremely smooth through the neutral zone, but playing D in the NHL won't be easy, especially as he'll probably be playing at 20. Chabot will be a top pairing Dman, he might be our best draft pick since EK.

Colin white is also a beauty, this might be our Perry / Getzlaf draft that we've been waiting for.
- tuna99

I'm not saying that either player won't be stars, but after the hype about curtis Lazar and mika zebanajad, and now seeing how difficult it is for them to be star players in the nhl, I would settle down on the expectations untill they play a game or 2 in the big league. It's one thing to look good against junior and college players. It's another thing to go up against the best players in the world night after night.

Finally got around to watching the game action from the dev camp.
- MaxTLimit

Thanks for taking the time to write this out - I'm not sure why more people don't appreciate the effort.

It sounds like Chabot is making it increasingly clear that he's the team's best prospect. I'm not sure he has much left to prove at the QMJHL level, and this is where the AHL should really be more open to allowing 19yo players. That said, given that the only realistic options to step into a top-4 role in the event of injury would be Wideman or Borowiecki, I really think they need to sign a #5/6 veteran defenceman to bolster the blue line. Fortunately, there are quite a few options available on the market, especially given some of the recent buyouts.

In general, there seems to be decent scoring forward depth to the prospect pool, with all of Brown, White, Chlapik, Dahlen, Gagne, and Perron in the system. None of those jump off the page as 'can't-miss' guys with more than maybe 50-60pts upside, but then again 56-61pts was enough for all of Hoffman, Ryan, and Stone to finish in the top-15 of their respective wing positions in terms of points last year. The 60pts mark would also have been good enough for 18th place in scoring by a centre, and only 6 centres in the league had more than 70pts. Of those, I guess Brown is probably the most likely to exceed that 60pts range due to his playmaking ability, but I think the way the current and team and prospects are lining up it will be a long time before anything other than a 2A/2B situation is established at centre.

The Sens are in serious limbo. Its basically a wait and see scenario. Will MacArthur be back to full form? Will Turris come out and perform then trail off into nothing again? Will Hoffman be back? Will Phaneuf pan out? Will Ryan finally play way better? Will Zibanejad show much needed improvement?

I expect management will have a cut off point where they say enough is enough.

The only first line player they have is stone and Zibby is a legit
Top 6 player.

Still some good players available. There won't be a saviour this summer, but there shouldn't be. Give Dorion a chance to shed the dead weight from the Murray era, Weircochr, Chiasson , Coahing staff _ and let's give the new coaching staff a chance to mold this team into a playoff team.

If we play hard and tight we are a playoff team. Let's give the coaches a chance to get Zibby, Ryan, Maccathur, Phaneuf going. If those guys are having good season AND we add a top line forward at the deadline (Colin White, 1st round pick), we could be dangerous.

But for now it's all a matter of having players in top shape who play together. mikeal Bodker wasn't going to make us a playoff team.
- tuna99

Chiasson and Weirchioch are goners. Chiasson was traded to Calgary and Weirchioch signed with Colorado. The team has more potential than most think, bearing that they aren't plagued with injuries like last season. That being said, the team has significant wholes to fill and don't have much depth. I think its a shame that most do not see Turris as a first liner. I think he established himself as a mid table first line centre in the NHL. Some much bigger names have lower scoring touch and less talent, such as David Backes.

I'm not saying that either player won't be stars, but after the hype about curtis Lazar and mika zebanajad, and now seeing how difficult it is for them to be star players in the nhl, I would settle down on the expectations untill they play a game or 2 in the big league. It's one thing to look good against junior and college players. It's another thing to go up against the best players in the world night after night.
- cburgess

Agreed. Although Lazar was never considered by management to be lights out retarded good. He was pick mid first round and is from the WHL. Players from WHL have harder time reproducing at the same rate in the NHL as prospects from other leagues (ex. OHL). Zibanijad is pretty good and still pretty young (22) and hes fringing 60 points per season. That's pretty solid if you ask me. However, I agree that his consistency needs to be worded on, but the organization don't doubt his potential. He may very well be traded for another big name. I think Zibby for Duchesne swap has been discussed already and might be revisited.

Finally got around to watching the game action from the dev camp.

Notes while watching the game (3 times):

-O'Connor didn't look good. His size and angles look okay, but he seems to have holes in his stance or something...pucks go through him. Still time to correct that...I hope.

-Brown looks good. Sees the ice very well, but his legs and movement are a concern. I'd like to have him talk to Stone about getting some speed and learning to work around his lack of natural skating. Stone never looks behind the play despite little natural speed. Learning how to read plays from Stone could help him transition to the Pro game better.

- Chabot looks like a pro among amateur players. He certainly doesn't look TOO aggressive, which is something I was worried about. You don't get away with that at the NHL level. Saw him get caught on a pinch, but that seems like a problem of coverage more than his decision making. Results of generally sloppy game.

- Gagne has a very sneaky shot. He gets it away quickly. Once he was healthy last year, he was producing real well, and you can see that as well in the game.

- Didn't notice Erkamps much, which is actually good. He's known for being a stay at home guy. I liked that I didn't see a lot of soft puck movement from him which is sometimes a problem from big stay at home Dmen. Seems to find the right place to be though.

- Hogberg looks big in net and seemed very solid. Needs a bit of work on his left to right movement though. He gets to the left okay, but her seemed slower when going to his right, which could expose his blocker.

- Nick Paul is a GIANT. Seems to get a good head of steam. Has a heavy wrist shot, but don't think I ever saw him win a draw. Not sure he is ever an NHL centre. May be moved and kept at the wing.

- Little surprised to see Englund moving up with the play. When I've seen him before, he's been a VERY stay at home guy.

- Perron, despite being tall, plays a lot of stick work. May be his lack of weight, or build, but could improve by being more close checking. He has amazing view, and seems to find sticks with passes. Can disappear at times, but then he will do something amazing. His goal in the 2nd, he seemed to appear from nowhere in the slot. I've watched him a lot, so this isn't shocking. Probably the most dangerous guy on the ice for the game, despite not being on the strongest line.

- Heard the name Dahlen a lot, and saw that he goes to the net. Brown was trying to hit him often with passes, but had lotsa trouble putting it away. He has a very quick stick. Snakebit this game. Hope it isn't something where he has hundreds of chances, but rarely scores. Think he needs muscle to increase shot power.

- Hear the name Jaros a lot, but he didn't seem to capitalize as much. Glad he is in on the play though.

- Nurmi penalty shot goal showed a decent shot. May hear more of him later. Still young and raw.
- MaxTLimit

Great write up! Good going man. I've been wondering how the development camp has been going.

The Sens are in serious limbo. Its basically a wait and see scenario. Will MacArthur be back to full form? Will Turris come out and perform then trail off into nothing again? Will Hoffman be back? Will Phaneuf pan out? Will Ryan finally play way better? Will Zibanejad show much needed improvement?

I expect management will have a cut off point where they say enough is enough.
- AlfieFever

In retrospect, some of the players that have been having hard time can also be blamed onto management, who has failed time and time again to recruit an NHL ready coach. They changed 7 coaches in 10 years, not many players can develop and improve as best as possible under so many changes. Hopefully, they finally got their legit head coach in Buy Boucher, but they need to give that time to gel. At least, give the head coach and the players a minimum of 2-3 years before canning everything. [/img]

Finally got around to watching the game action from the dev camp.

Notes while watching the game (3 times):

-O'Connor didn't look good. His size and angles look okay, but he seems to have holes in his stance or something...pucks go through him. Still time to correct that...I hope.

-Brown looks good. Sees the ice very well, but his legs and movement are a concern. I'd like to have him talk to Stone about getting some speed and learning to work around his lack of natural skating. Stone never looks behind the play despite little natural speed. Learning how to read plays from Stone could help him transition to the Pro game better.

- Chabot looks like a pro among amateur players. He certainly doesn't look TOO aggressive, which is something I was worried about. You don't get away with that at the NHL level. Saw him get caught on a pinch, but that seems like a problem of coverage more than his decision making. Results of generally sloppy game.

- Gagne has a very sneaky shot. He gets it away quickly. Once he was healthy last year, he was producing real well, and you can see that as well in the game.

- Didn't notice Erkamps much, which is actually good. He's known for being a stay at home guy. I liked that I didn't see a lot of soft puck movement from him which is sometimes a problem from big stay at home Dmen. Seems to find the right place to be though.

- Hogberg looks big in net and seemed very solid. Needs a bit of work on his left to right movement though. He gets to the left okay, but her seemed slower when going to his right, which could expose his blocker.

- Nick Paul is a GIANT. Seems to get a good head of steam. Has a heavy wrist shot, but don't think I ever saw him win a draw. Not sure he is ever an NHL centre. May be moved and kept at the wing.

- Little surprised to see Englund moving up with the play. When I've seen him before, he's been a VERY stay at home guy.

- Perron, despite being tall, plays a lot of stick work. May be his lack of weight, or build, but could improve by being more close checking. He has amazing view, and seems to find sticks with passes. Can disappear at times, but then he will do something amazing. His goal in the 2nd, he seemed to appear from nowhere in the slot. I've watched him a lot, so this isn't shocking. Probably the most dangerous guy on the ice for the game, despite not being on the strongest line.

- Heard the name Dahlen a lot, and saw that he goes to the net. Brown was trying to hit him often with passes, but had lotsa trouble putting it away. He has a very quick stick. Snakebit this game. Hope it isn't something where he has hundreds of chances, but rarely scores. Think he needs muscle to increase shot power.

- Hear the name Jaros a lot, but he didn't seem to capitalize as much. Glad he is in on the play though.

- Nurmi penalty shot goal showed a decent shot. May hear more of him later. Still young and raw.
- MaxTLimit

Thanks for keeping us in the loop. I appreciate the effort and the scouting.

I don't see us contending if we stay a budget team with 12M tied up in MacArthur and Ryan. Also why sign Neil for 1.5M? He's 37.... There should be enough players in the pipeline able to do similar stuff, otherwise the farm system sucks.

If we sign Hoffman and Methot, Phaneuf + Ceci are walls this season we may have a shot at the play offs, but it's going to be hard.

Lol. Are you a pro scout?
- BodyCheckRadio

My body decided that for my first holiday in 3 years, I should have a stomach bug. Since I had nothing better to do ( or could do ), I spent my time over analyzing little details of the game. It was only a couple periods of running time followed by some 3 on 3, so it isn't like it is representative of NHL action.

I'd agree that Dahlen looked pretty dynamic, but his goal scoring prowess at the NHL level may be limited unless he can work on that shot. He's only 18 though, so maybe it is something he can develop.

Sens brass was saying they were hoping for more from Chabot from the camp, but because it was just a scrimage, I'm wondering if they are just trying to light a fire under him. He looked fine to me.

I didn't see any super stars that are wowing me by dominating. White wasn't on the ice because of his wrist injury. Gagne, Perron, Chabot, and Brown looked like they may be close to NHL ready...maybe not yet though. Almost everyone else looked to me like they could use some time to develop. Like 2-3 years.

The hockey press says the Sens and Rangers are talking to Brad Richards. If he is willing to sign for a small 1 years contract and if he is willing / able to play some depth LW role...I'd be interested to see what he has left in the tank.

Arbitration filing deadline is closing in...

Finally got around to watching the game action from the dev camp...
- MaxTLimit

(Without copying the entirety of your post)
Thanks for that, the rest of us appreciate it

Doesn't look like the Sens will be picking up any UFA's at this point. So the roster is as follows..



1A) Hoff - Zibby - Ryan
1B) Mac - Turris - Stone
3 ) Smith - JPG - Dzingel
4 ) Paul/ Peumple - Lazar -Neil/ Robinson


1) Methot - Karlsson
2) Phanuef - Ceci
3) Claesson - Wideman
Boro

Lol. Are you a pro scout?
- BodyCheckRadio

You read my mind perfectly.

I kind of agree and kind of disagree. I do think going with a 1-2 punch of good but not great C's is a good idea. but I still think you put Turris up to Malkin, Toews, Backstrum etc he isn't a #1 C.

Boston also had some amazing wingers to go along with them though and D and Goalies. We have the goalies and the D, but we need to beef up our top end
- Maverick1818

I think Boston built a team strong on D and awesome goaltending. The forwards were all strong 2-way and could score but no game breaker up front.

St. Louis is similar but they have Tarasenko and though they have 2 really good D-men, their not at the level that Chara was at the past decade or so.

Ottawa had Spezza but lacked a #2. Fisher is basically what Zibanejad is but had injury issues and didn't have the offensive tools imo. Zibanejad has a heavy shot but similar hands. I think Zibanejad has better finish but it needs to be rediscovered and he needs to find consistency.

I think Stone has hit his level and will stay there; same with Turris, Ryan, MacArthur. MacArthur actually may decline due to health and age.... but Hoffman, Zibanejad, Lazar should have career years if healthy and in shape. That said, shoulds hardly pan out. Cowen and Zibanejad were my x-factors last year..... and well, they didn't deliever; especially #2...in fact that's what he=

I think Boston built a team strong on D and awesome goaltending. The forwards were all strong 2-way and could score but no game breaker up front.

St. Louis is similar but they have Tarasenko and though they have 2 really good D-men, their not at the level that Chara was at the past decade or so.

Ottawa had Spezza but lacked a #2. Fisher is basically what Zibanejad is but had injury issues and didn't have the offensive tools imo. Zibanejad has a heavy shot but similar hands. I think Zibanejad has better finish but it needs to be rediscovered and he needs to find consistency.

I think Stone has hit his level and will stay there; same with Turris, Ryan, MacArthur. MacArthur actually may decline due to health and age.... but Hoffman, Zibanejad, Lazar should have career years if healthy and in shape. That said, shoulds hardly pan out. Cowen and Zibanejad were my x-factors last year..... and well, they didn't deliever; especially #2...in fact that's what he=
- AlfieisKing

I think Zibby has more skill but doesn't have the work ethic Fisher has. I still think we are missing a #1C and a #2 LW. I know I kinda harp on this but I think if we had the top two lines of....

Hoffman - Duchene - Ryan
Schenn/Yak/E Kane - Turris - Stone

Methot - Karlsson
Dion - Ceci

I think we could be a major force in the nhl and still keep it well under the cap and contend for a cup or two

I think Zibby has more skill but doesn't have the work ethic Fisher has. I still think we are missing a #1C and a #2 LW. I know I kinda harp on this but I think if we had the top two lines of....

Hoffman - Duchene - Ryan
Schenn/Yak/E Kane - Turris - Stone

Methot - Karlsson
Dion - Ceci

I think we could be a major force in the nhl and still keep it well under the cap and contend for a cup or two
- Maverick1818

absolutely hit the nail on the head with Zibby to Fisher.

With respect to Duchene, seems like a lot of us are still having that in our minds since the rumors in the season. I think it's possible but I think someone would have to blow the socks off. I can see it later in his career.

I think the Sens should seriously look at bringing Matt Bartkowski here long term. He played well in Boston but really had a strong year in Vancouver. Problem is that he will likely look for a top 4 role (top 4 $)