I see them as improved but when you consider the rest of the leagues improvement, makes their improvement irrelevant
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

That's very interesting. Being able to see and predict the future, is a really neat skill.

I was trying to make a point subtly, but I'll be more direct. First of all, we're talking about becoming a better team. A team is not just about one player here or there. A team can also become a better team, with growth internally, without adding a single player. We see that year, after year. Bill detailed in his blog a number of ways the Flyers can see better goal production. The Flyers dealt with injuries all season, and they have a full year under Hakstol, compared to last year, having to adjust to a new coach. I don't see how the possibility of the Flyers becoming a better team is irrelevant. In fact, it's completely the opposite. I won't predict that any of this is a lock to happen, I don't have that clairvoyant skill, only that the possibility exists. Many failed last year, on the Flyers chances of making the playoffs, to account for the possibility of internal growth.

That's very interesting. Being able to see and predict the future, is a really neat skill.

I was trying to make a point subtly, but I'll be more direct. First of all, we're talking about becoming a better team. A team is not just about one player here or there. A team can also become a better team, with growth internally, without adding a single player. We see that year, after year. Bill detailed in his blog a number of ways the Flyers can see better goal production. The Flyers dealt with injuries all season, and they have a full year under Hakstol, compared to last year, having to adjust to a new coach. I don't see how the possibility of the Flyers becoming a better team is irrelevant. In fact, it's completely the opposite. I won't predict that any of this is a lock to happen, I don't have that clairvoyant skill, only that the possibility exists. Many failed last year, on the Flyers chances of making the playoffs, to account for the possibility of internal growth.
- MJL

Ahh I see he still has the magic ninja skills of riding the post...maybe, maybe not, maybe, maybe not. The old magic 8 ball trick.

Sounds like 2016-2017 will probably be another bore-fest.

Sounds like 2016-2017 will probably be another bore-fest.
- MrBuzzcut

Ghost made it a fun ride, even if they wouldn't have made the playoffs.

Hopefully prov and Konecny can do the same.

Ghost made it a fun ride, even if they wouldn't have made the playoffs.

Hopefully prov and Konecny can do the same.
- flyer_nutter

I would love to get Yak for cheap. We could use a scoring winger and iirc Yak broke Stammer's scoring record in Sarnia which speaks volumes imo. I'd hope the change in scenery can bring him back to first overall pick form.
- moylander

Still way to young too write off.

I see them as improved but when you consider the rest of the leagues improvement, makes their improvement irrelevant
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

If they get 98 points I'd bet they still make the playoffs

That's very interesting. Being able to see and predict the future, is a really neat skill.

I was trying to make a point subtly, but I'll be more direct. First of all, we're talking about becoming a better team. A team is not just about one player here or there. A team can also become a better team, with growth internally, without adding a single player. We see that year, after year. Bill detailed in his blog a number of ways the Flyers can see better goal production. The Flyers dealt with injuries all season, and they have a full year under Hakstol, compared to last year, having to adjust to a new coach. I don't see how the possibility of the Flyers becoming a better team is irrelevant. In fact, it's completely the opposite. I won't predict that any of this is a lock to happen, I don't have that clairvoyant skill, only that the possibility exists. Many failed last year, on the Flyers chances of making the playoffs, to account for the possibility of internal growth.
- MJL

It's really been the Flyer Mantra for the last couple of years...."let the kids grow !!!". Schenn and couturier took steps forward...both top 10 picks...now let's hope some of the other recent 1rst rounders and kids can do the same...over paying free agents an making big splashes never worked...so I get the reasoning. There's every reason to think this team can be better then last years.

Brandon Pirri



SCOUTING REPORT
Assets: Has a wealth of skill and shooting ability. Can both set up linemates and finish plays off with aplomb. He shoots the puck often, too, which helps him produce good numbers.
Flaws: Is an extremely streaky scorer and generally lacks consistency. Also lacks a bit of bulk for his 6-0 frame and the physical strength to win board battles with regularity.
Career Potential: Talented, inconsistent scorer.



25 years old
166 games 49 goals 31 assists 80 points

I can't see where a player like him can't help us, it's not like he will cost $4m a year, or a 6 year crippling term.
If it's possibly due to attitude problems bring him in, and talk to him.
I love the Weise move! He has skill, size, moxie.
But how can anyone say, or believe we don't require one more scoring winger?
Sure if Read's shooting % went back to 16%, and not 8% like the last few years), ok then we have the scoring winger we need.
But there's no signs of that happening.
Note; everyone said Kessel was a lazy back checking, out of shape player.
Funny how the right environment makes all that go away.
- puckhead17

Pirri has struggled to stick with teams because he's a one dimensional guy who has a subpar two way game. Much like Sam Gagner, he'd probably be used in a limited fashion by a coach who demands responsible 200 foot play from his forwards.

They could sign him, but he's not likely to score a lot of goals from the press box

Guess we can forget about getting schenn resigned under 5 mil with Reilly smiths deal. Yikes

Pirri has struggled to stick with teams because he's a one dimensional guy who has a subpar two way game. Much like Sam Gagner, he'd probably be used in a limited fashion by a coach who demands responsible 200 foot play from his forwards.

They could sign him, but he's not likely to score a lot of goals from the press box
- Jsaquella

there have been other players with "back checking" issues, and they've improved that facet of their game.
again, I'm not saying he's Kessel, but what about all the fat jokes, cheeseburger, out of shape & breath, no hustle, etc. e was able to keep up with the speed after all.
You've got some guys that only worry about the defensive end, and will not take shots, and we hear that they are good players, but no hands, offense, etc.

His scouting report also didn't note him as a poor defensive player just streaky.
It's not like he's break the bank either.
We hear how hard it is to produce consistent numbers in todays game, getting shots, goals etc.

Ghost made it a fun ride, even if they wouldn't have made the playoffs.

Hopefully prov and Konecny can do the same.
- flyer_nutter

Yeah man. Another band aid off season so far waiting on the kids

Guess we can forget about getting schenn resigned under 5 mil with Reilly smiths deal. Yikes
- Just5

It's a littler alarming how long it's taking to lock him up.

It's a littler alarming how long it's taking to lock him up.
- MikesPillBottle

How so, it was said the other day his agent just started talking to the Flyers.

When it reaches September & nothing is done then it's alarming right now it's not.

It's really been the Flyer Mantra for the last couple of years...."let the kids grow !!!". Schenn and couturier took steps forward...both top 10 picks...now let's hope some of the other recent 1rst rounders and kids can do the same...over paying free agents an making big splashes never worked...so I get the reasoning. There's every reason to think this team can be better then last years.
- landros 2

I wouldn't say it "never" worked. Briere was a good signing. Streit wasn't bad. Bryz, Vinny and AMac certainly overshadow things but saying big FA additions never work out isn't exactly true.

It's really been the Flyer Mantra for the last couple of years...."let the kids grow !!!". Schenn and couturier took steps forward...both top 10 picks...now let's hope some of the other recent 1rst rounders and kids can do the same...over paying free agents an making big splashes never worked...so I get the reasoning. There's every reason to think this team can be better then last years.
- landros 2

No doubt, but I also won't discount the possibility that they could regress. I think the real point is that teams that are in a different place than the Flyers are, made some moves, so now they're better but the Flyers aren't. Now is not the time to get involved in big free agent deals. Next Summer, as more and more of the young players are integrated that may change. You don't have to sign big free agents to get better.

How so, it was said the other day his agent just started talking to the Flyers.

When it reaches September & nothing is done then it's alarming right now it's not.
- ob18

Off the top of my head i don't remember any of the core players sitting around as an RFA without a contract.

Off the top of my head i don't remember any of the core players sitting around as an RFA without a contract.
- MikesPillBottle

Not worried about others or even this one........Things will be worked out & in plenty of time before the season begins.

Not worried about others or even this one........Things will be worked out & in plenty of time before the season begins.
- ob18

I agree, I don't feel there's anything to worry about, just a matter of timing.

No doubt, but I also won't discount the possibility that they could regress. I think the real point is that teams that are in a different place than the Flyers are, made some moves, so now they're better but the Flyers aren't. Now is not the time to get involved in big free agent deals. Next Summer, as more and more of the young players are integrated that may change. You don't have to sign big free agents to get better.
- MJL

Agree with this.

Its all about timing. We all knew there would be a wait for the defensive prospects to mature and contribute at an NHL level. Ghost is up, and Provorov probably as well.

Sanheim, Morin and perhaps Hagg are options next season if not this year.

Frankly everything depends on that D, as it did when they started this rebuild. They are getting closer thank god, and the time for bigger moves, perhaps even FA signings is coming. Just not yet.

I do think they are looking, and do think if say a guy like Eriksson was a few years younger they take a run at him this year.

I wouldn't say it "never" worked. Briere was a good signing. Streit wasn't bad. Bryz, Vinny and AMac certainly overshadow things but saying big FA additions never work out isn't exactly true.
- hereticpride

It can work.

Basically you had guys like Hartnell and Timonen as FA signings. Briere. Lappy. I still stand by the fact that the Pronger deal was a good one.

For every mistake, there have been good signings or trades. I do think they will explore this route more and more as the youth and prospects develop.

Or hope so at least. Can't rely solely on the draft.

You can relocate teams in NHL17?

Might have to buy this on launch day just to create Kansas City Penguins memes.

Not worried about others or even this one........Things will be worked out & in plenty of time before the season begins.
- ob18

I'm not worried that they won't. Worried that there is a hang up.

Schenn isn't good enough to be a headache during FA periods.

Sounds like 2016-2017 will probably be another bore-fest.
- MrBuzzcut

you calling for a top 10 draft pick?

Guess we can forget about getting schenn resigned under 5 mil with Reilly smiths deal. Yikes
- Just5

reilly smith can actually score