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TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 5 @ 12:31 PM ET
you know, in 1975 when the Rangers lost Eddie Giacomin, it was exactly the time to get rid of him, he was 36 years they, they had acquired 22 year old John Davidson that summer, he was the 5th overall pick in the draft 2 years before.

But, to this day, it's like the biggest travesty in team history that they let Giacomin go. It's another travesty that they traded 36 year old Brian Leetch, another travesty that they traded Adam Graves.

this fanbase can't come to grips with players leaving, but yeah, lets trade Lundqvist, that one will go over easy

- jimbro83

It would be a dumpster fire in here in the Rangers traded Hank
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 5 @ 12:32 PM ET
I thought all along the plan was maybe to trade away contracts to create cap space to be more players in free agency or what not. But now that is over, so would they just move contracts to create free cap space?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 5 @ 12:35 PM ET
I thought all along the plan was maybe to trade away contracts to create cap space to be more players in free agency or what not. But now that is over, so would they just move contracts to create free cap space?
- TPC


I don't think there is enough space to sign Kreider, Miller, Hayes and McIlrath.

Maybe just enough so there is slight wiggle room

If team's actually used offer sheets the Rangers would be in trouble
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 5 @ 12:58 PM ET
I don't think there is enough space to sign Kreider, Miller, Hayes and McIlrath.

Maybe just enough so there is slight wiggle room

If team's actually used offer sheets the Rangers would be in trouble

- jimbro83

I think you're underestimating how well the Rangers use their leverage with RFAs
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 5 @ 12:59 PM ET
I don't think there is enough space to sign Kreider, Miller, Hayes and McIlrath.

Maybe just enough so there is slight wiggle room

If team's actually used offer sheets the Rangers would be in trouble

- jimbro83

Just get Kreider and Miller done first. Then worry about the others after
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 5 @ 1:15 PM ET
Pat Leonard ‏@PLeonardNYDN 6s6 seconds ago

#NYR announce they've re-signed RFAs F Nicklas Jensen (acquired in Etem/VAN trade) & D Mat Bodie #NHL
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 5 @ 1:15 PM ET
I think you're underestimating how well the Rangers use their leverage with RFAs
- rangerdanger94


I think you're a Richard
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 5 @ 1:22 PM ET
I think you're a Richard
- jimbro83

TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 5 @ 1:40 PM ET
I think you're a Richard
- jimbro83

richardson30
New York Rangers
Joined: 06.07.2012

Jul 5 @ 2:00 PM ET
I thought all along the plan was maybe to trade away contracts to create cap space to be more players in free agency or what not. But now that is over, so would they just move contracts to create free cap space?
- TPC


you know the more I think about it the more I would not be surprised if they didn't make any trade this year... think about it. they just signed Beuk as the D coach. 2 years ago no one was saying how horrid G and Staal were - they were at the least very serviceable. last year for some reason they decide to switch up their D system to more of a man system and our D couldn't keep up. I wouldn't be surprised to see them go back to a zone - protect the net type system and give G and Staal another year.

We don't have the Dmen for a man to man system, our Dmen are just not that fast, but they are sound when it comes to positioning - which a zonal system would help.

just my 2 cents. though I still really hope they can trade to get Shatty.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 5 @ 2:10 PM ET
you know the more I think about it the more I would not be surprised if they didn't make any trade this year... think about it. they just signed Beuk as the D coach. 2 years ago no one was saying how horrid G and Staal were - they were at the least very serviceable. last year for some reason they decide to switch up their D system to more of a man system and our D couldn't keep up. I wouldn't be surprised to see them go back to a zone - protect the net type system and give G and Staal another year.

We don't have the Dmen for a man to man system, our Dmen are just not that fast, but they are sound when it comes to positioning - which a zonal system would help.

just my 2 cents. though I still really hope they can trade to get Shatty.

- richardson30


with Bodie signed now, and Summers, Clendening, Holden, Graves, there are a lot of defensemen here that seem like AHL/NHL types

no matter what happens, gonna be interesting to see how this blueline shakes itself out
richardson30
New York Rangers
Joined: 06.07.2012

Jul 5 @ 2:15 PM ET
with Bodie signed now, and Summers, Clendening, Holden, Graves, there are a lot of defensemen here that seem like AHL/NHL types

no matter what happens, gonna be interesting to see how this blueline shakes itself out

- jimbro83


Yea, from everything I can gather it looks like the AHL team will be pretty good this year. sounds like a few junior and college guys are jumping to the AHL team this year(Nieves, Gropp, etc). I wouldn't be surprised to see Buch start in the AHL either. I think the learning curve will be hard for him, in fact on any person in his shoes. the language barrier and speed/size of rink. theres a lot of adjustments there.
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

Jul 5 @ 2:31 PM ET
Yea, from everything I can gather it looks like the AHL team will be pretty good this year. sounds like a few junior and college guys are jumping to the AHL team this year(Nieves, Gropp, etc). I wouldn't be surprised to see Buch start in the AHL either. I think the learning curve will be hard for him, in fact on any person in his shoes. the language barrier and speed/size of rink. theres a lot of adjustments there.
- richardson30


got it in his contract that its either NHL or back to KHL
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jul 5 @ 2:43 PM ET
Yea, from everything I can gather it looks like the AHL team will be pretty good this year. sounds like a few junior and college guys are jumping to the AHL team this year(Nieves, Gropp, etc). I wouldn't be surprised to see Buch start in the AHL either. I think the learning curve will be hard for him, in fact on any person in his shoes. the language barrier and speed/size of rink. theres a lot of adjustments there.
- richardson30

Sam,"Yes those ARE Boo's you're hearing."
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jul 5 @ 2:45 PM ET
got it in his contract that its either NHL or back to KHL
- mrn22

A little too much arrogance there, some time in the AHL would probably benefit him. Another entitled Russkie with an attitude?
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 5 @ 2:46 PM ET
Just get Kreider and Miller done first. Then worry about the others after
- TPC

Trade Hayes for Coyle. He carries a 3.2 cap hit for 4 more years. Kreider for 4.5 for 5 years, Miller 2 years at 2.75 (keeps him RFA). What's that leave us?
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

Jul 5 @ 2:51 PM ET
Trade Hayes for Coyle. He carries a 3.2 cap hit for 4 more years. Kreider for 4.5 for 5 years, Miller 2 years at 2.75 (keeps him RFA). What's that leave us?
- nyrangers9479


zero chance the wild trade Coyle for Hayes
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 5 @ 3:34 PM ET
Jon Lane ‏@JonLaneNHL 31s32 seconds ago
Jordin Tootoo agrees to terms with #Blackhawks. He played past two seasons with #NJDevils
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 5 @ 3:42 PM ET
zero chance the wild trade Coyle for Hayes
- mrn22

Risk/reward. Hayes has a higher skill set/ceiling, Coyle uses his size better.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 5 @ 3:48 PM ET
Risk/reward. Hayes has a higher skill set/ceiling, Coyle uses his size better.
- nyrangers9479

Rangers are using Hayes to get try and get Vessey...they are good friends apparently. Hayes won't be moved anytime soon.
richardson30
New York Rangers
Joined: 06.07.2012

Jul 5 @ 3:52 PM ET
Rangers are using Hayes to get try and get Vessey...they are good friends apparently. Hayes won't be moved anytime soon.
- TPC

no reason to give up on him yet. most players have the sophomore slump.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 5 @ 4:13 PM ET
no reason to give up on him yet. most players have the sophomore slump.
- richardson30

I'm not giving up on him at all, I think the sophomore slump is exactly what happened to him and he will soon be a 60+ pt player. I just like Coyles game more and he's a right handed shot, outside of Stepan and the phenomenal empty net goal scorer Fast, we don't have any.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 5 @ 4:27 PM ET
I'm not giving up on him at all, I think the sophomore slump is exactly what happened to him and he will soon be a 60+ pt player. I just like Coyles game more and he's a right handed shot, outside of Stepan and the phenomenal empty net goal scorer Fast, we don't have any.
- nyrangers9479


even Grabner and Gerbe are lefties

21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jul 5 @ 4:43 PM ET
I'm not giving up on him at all, I think the sophomore slump is exactly what happened to him and he will soon be a 60+ pt player. I just like Coyles game more and he's a right handed shot, outside of Stepan and the phenomenal empty net goal scorer Fast, we don't have any.
- nyrangers9479

Too lazy to check, but didn't Hags use to be the empty net scorer and Nash the one we said couldn't buy one...
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 5 @ 4:58 PM ET
Too lazy to check, but didn't Hags use to be the empty net scorer and Nash the one we said couldn't buy one...
- 21peter

Fast last year, I think had 4 of his 10 goals without someone in net to actually stop his shot. I looked it up in a prior blog but I'll check again. He definitely has trouble scoring though when someone is there to stop his shot. That's y I don't get the love for him, I like the guy and his hustle, plays good defensively, but he's a 4th line player. He's no different than Gerbe Grabner Hrivik.
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