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Forums :: Blog World :: Todd Cordell: The Calgary Flames Should Have Stayed Away From Troy Brouwer
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Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Jul 2 @ 4:01 PM ET
You all hated Vetter. Hated Colin (mostly for lack of blogs even though he was positive abt the flames) and talk crap on Cordell.

Todd is probably the best blogger here sing Yost left. Sorry to Whip ect, but Brouwer was a sht move. I understand it, I like the player, the contract is not great. Not terriblr, but not great. He is glowing on the Devils because they have kicked ass this offseason.

- FLflames34


Vuetter was hit or miss. Certainly didn't hate him or Todd.

Improving upon the League's worst PK and addressing a major size issue was a sh!t move? I disagree. The contract isn't even that bad. Four years is a good term.
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Jul 2 @ 4:03 PM ET
Vuetter was hit or miss. Certainly didn't hate him or Todd.

Improving upon the League's worst PK and addressing a major size issue was a sh!t move? I disagree. The contract isn't even that bad. Four years is a good term.

- fry

He is a 3rd liner. It is about as bad as paying Stajan 3.5 for as long as they have to be 4C.
Not the worst. Still sht.
JimmyBeem
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.26.2014

Jul 2 @ 4:11 PM ET
He is a 3rd liner. It is about as bad as paying Stajan 3.5 for as long as they have to be 4C.
Not the worst. Still sht.

- FLflames34

Stajan, when playing with plugs, is a plug. He had limited opertunity late in the season to play with actual NHL talent and preformed well. He has always been a great team guy, but also a slightly expensive insurance policy. People talk like he's a useless plug like Bouma.
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Jul 2 @ 4:15 PM ET
He is a 3rd liner. It is about as bad as paying Stajan 3.5 for as long as they have to be 4C.
Not the worst. Still sht.

- FLflames34

Pull your head out of your a$$!
InSutterWeTrust
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 08.09.2010

Jul 2 @ 4:16 PM ET
Todd watches more hockey than pretty much everyone on here. Stats are impartial though... they are what they are. Don't get upset if they don't match your opinion. By all means, discuss the topic, share your point of view... but don't attack the blogger.
- jtommyt


I don't think they blogger needs a body guard, or censorship from the thought police. If someone's opinion is that they disagree with the blogger that is an opinion. Unless they are threatening violence, inciting violence or promoting hate, I'm not sure it's beneficial to try shutting them down. Todd has a particular style of covering players and teams, he also leans heavily on analytics, which obviously grinds the gears of quite a few of the people who post in this forum. At the end of the day, nearly all of us appreciate that Todd's blogs encourage discussion , and that they are posted with regularity. I doubt he loses any sleep over dissenting views on his blog.
It's pretty difficult to have a decent discussion without opposing points of view and open minds.
At least Todd's blogs aren't total click bate like Tanner's.
Todd receives bouquets in here most of the time, but bouquets with roses are bound to come with some thorns.
JimmyBeem
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.26.2014

Jul 2 @ 4:18 PM ET
What am I saying... Analytics bad. The fact that he centered a fairly important, when healthy, Ferkland/Staj/Jones line in the playoffs be damned. Useless is right.
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Jul 2 @ 4:23 PM ET
Pull your head out of your a$$!
- Clyde334

Salty. Let's dance.
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Jul 2 @ 4:25 PM ET
He is a 3rd liner. It is about as bad as paying Stajan 3.5 for as long as they have to be 4C.
Not the worst. Still sht.

- FLflames34


He'll be playing on the first line so he's literally a first liner.

The dude played on Ovie's PP unit. Give your head a shake. He played powerplay minutes in St. Louis too.

He was a third liner on Chicago. You need to catch up on what he's done since then. The guy got traded for Oshie last year ffs.
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Jul 2 @ 4:27 PM ET
I don't think they blogger needs a body guard, or censorship from the thought police. If someone's opinion is that they disagree with the blogger that is an opinion. Unless they are threatening violence, inciting violence or promoting hate, I'm not sure it's beneficial to try shutting them down. Todd has a particular style of covering players and teams, he also leans heavily on analytics, which obviously grinds the gears of quite a few of the people who post in this forum. At the end of the day, nearly all of us appreciate that Todd's blogs encourage discussion , and that they are posted with regularity. I doubt he loses any sleep over dissenting views on his blog.
It's pretty difficult to have a decent discussion without opposing points of view and open minds.
At least Todd's blogs aren't total click bate like Tanner's.
Todd receives bouquets in here most of the time, but bouquets with roses are bound to come with some thorns.

- InSutterWeTrust


Hah you channeled the George Johnson on that analogy.
InSutterWeTrust
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 08.09.2010

Jul 2 @ 4:37 PM ET
Hah you channeled the George Johnson on that analogy.
- fry

That's kind of you. I'll take it.
tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

Jul 2 @ 4:46 PM ET
You all hated Vetter. Hated Colin (mostly for lack of blogs even though he was positive abt the flames) and talk crap on Cordell.

Todd is probably the best blogger here since Yost left. Sorry to Whip ect, but Brouwer was a sht move. I understand it, I like the player, the contract is not great. Not terrible, but not great. He is glowing on the Devils because they have kicked ass this offseason.

- FLflames34


I agree - Todd is easily the best Flames blogger we've had on this site and I for one am glad he's taken on the Flames. I just hope a few thin skinned fans don't turn him off.
InSutterWeTrust
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 08.09.2010

Jul 2 @ 4:49 PM ET
What am I saying... Analytics bad. The fact that he centered a fairly important, when healthy, Ferkland/Staj/Jones line in the playoffs be damned. Useless is right.
- JimmyBeem


Listening to or reading analysis based solely on analytics generally reminds me of a feminist arguing the existence of the wage gap. The data they are spewing is factual, there are lots of statistics that seem to support that position, yet in reality men and women doing exactly the same job, by law have to be paid the same. Regardless what information you present to the contrary, and regardless how true, or realistic the argument; the majority of them are so entrenched in the religion they support that their only response is NOPE, THE STATS I SHOWED YOU ARE ALL THAT MATTERS.
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Jul 2 @ 4:51 PM ET
I think you guys missed the point on the "wrong side of 30" comment. Todd isn't saying that Brouwer is old or that he's suddenly going to regress badly. He's saying that we know what we have with him at this point. He's not still developing, so his trends are likely to continue to be how he plays moving forward.
- jtommyt


I kind of think you missed the point. By the time players become UFAs, you know what kind of player they are and they're getting paid with the hope that they can keep that up. That's what the hope is with Brouwer and anyone wasting time replying to blogs on here is aware of that. I'm fairly certain he was making a point that he's at the age where he thinks power forwards start to regress.
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Jul 2 @ 4:53 PM ET
You all hated Vetter. Hated Colin (mostly for lack of blogs even though he was positive abt the flames) and talk crap on Cordell.

Todd is probably the best blogger here since Yost left. Sorry to Whip ect, but Brouwer was a sht move. I understand it, I like the player, the contract is not great. Not terrible, but not great. He is glowing on the Devils because they have kicked ass this offseason.

- FLflames34


Don't really see how your explanation equates to a bad move. Getting a player you like to a contract that's not terrible is pretty much the ideal UFA situation.
InSutterWeTrust
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 08.09.2010

Jul 2 @ 4:54 PM ET
I agree - Todd is easily the best blogger we've had on this site and I for one am glad he's taken on the Flames. I just hope a few thin skinned fans don't turn him off.
- tincup


Todd is a big boy, he has broad shoulders. He isn't going to change his successful blogging style, and he probably isn't going anywhere. We all benefit from his regular blogs and appreciate his commitment, even if we disagree with his position and love for analytics.
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Jul 2 @ 5:03 PM ET
Todd is a big boy, he has broad shoulders. He isn't going to change his successful blogging style, and he probably isn't going anywhere. We all benefit from his regular blogs and appreciate his commitment, even if we disagree with his position and love for analytics.
- InSutterWeTrust

This!
InSutterWeTrust
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 08.09.2010

Jul 2 @ 5:09 PM ET
You know.... It's an absolute joke when we have Oilers, flames, leafs, and Sabers fans on here ripping each other constantly.... NONE of us have won S*** in like 30 years so we resort to ripping on each other like when your half retarded so you pick on the next guy who's more retarded and a year younger and a half inch shorter so you can feel better about how much your life sucks
- Madeincanada82


You're right.

But at least I'm not an Oilers fan.
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Jul 2 @ 5:24 PM ET
Don't really see how your explanation equates to a bad move. Getting a player you like to a contract that's not terrible is pretty much the ideal UFA situation.
- Hunkulese

When did I say I like the move?
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Jul 2 @ 5:27 PM ET
When did I say I like the move?
- FLflames34


You said it was a bad move, yet you like the player and don't think the contract is terrible. Those two things don't jive.
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Jul 2 @ 5:28 PM ET
When did I say I like the move?
- FLflames34

When did we say we like you?
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jul 2 @ 5:28 PM ET
What's your issue Pinocchio?
- Clyde334

I'm just here looking for that little Douglasfruit guy.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jul 2 @ 5:30 PM ET
Gio > Sekera
Brodie > Larsson
Money < McD but > than Drait
Bennett = Drait
Nuge slightly...slightly > Backlund
JG > all your wingers, sorry Ebs
Janko > any player in the NHL

- FLflames34

Lol...you had to put Drai in twice, lol
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Jul 2 @ 5:44 PM ET
I'm just here looking for that little Douglasfruit guy.
- Jeropotato

He wasn't playing nice. That's the rumour anyway...
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jul 2 @ 6:57 PM ET
He'll be playing on the first line so he's literally a first liner.

The dude played on Ovie's PP unit. Give your head a shake. He played powerplay minutes in St. Louis too.

He was a third liner on Chicago. You need to catch up on what he's done since then. The guy got traded for Oshie last year ffs.

- fry

I'd rather have Brouwer than Oshie! Fits a need on the Flames! $ high but it's crazy time! Just he this isn't David Jones all over again!
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 2 @ 7:36 PM ET
That's a very unimpressive group of forwards, no matter how badly you Jabronis try to over rate them. On a good team you have maybe 3 top 6 forwards, and that includes the wet behind the eats Bennett.
- Jeropotato



Flames are in trouble. Have the D in place and yet another backup goalie in Elliott PLUS have not addressed 3rd or 4th line scoring at all.

Gulutzan has his hands full there man I tell ya.
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