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Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 3 @ 2:55 PM ET
Some blogger said he didn't have to be.
- the_eye[MiB]
So i believed him.


its 2 years or less... after next season he will have played 3 pro seasons

so the 2 year rule wont apply to him
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 3 @ 2:55 PM ET
Sure, because the Sharks went to the final riding on his back, not Couture, Burns, Jumbo and Pavelski
- lumlums



Team


We don't wanna ride the big (frank)er, we just want him to smash some bodies
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 3 @ 2:55 PM ET
Nylander's exempt isn't he Lums? Give us the reasoning...I'm cottageing at the moment and 1/2 gassed.
- Garnie


He is. I don't believe that he's considered to have played enough. I am however basing this on what I've seen via Twitter and on General Fanager (which is usually pretty accurate but not always). Regardless, we have enough spots to protect him.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 3 @ 2:56 PM ET
Team


We don't wanna ride the big (frank)er, we just want him to smash some bodies

- Garnie


As long as it's not from behind into the boards, something that he seemed to really specialize in towards the end of the year...


EDIT: Lunchtime
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 3 @ 2:56 PM ET
i was only talking about skaters

i am pretty sure andersen will be the goalie they protect

the question is... who do they take on to leave exposed? sign bernier for another year?

- Dozzer



I meant he will count towards 25% won't he?
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 3 @ 2:57 PM ET
Leafs won't protect Bozak, Martin, and Holland for forwards.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 3 @ 2:57 PM ET
As long as it's not from behind into the boards, something that he seemed to really specialize in towards the end of the year...
- lumlums



Meh, he's not the only one who creams guys from behind. But yes, we don't want him taking too many dumb penalties
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jul 3 @ 2:57 PM ET
Leafs won't protect Bozak, Martin, and Holland for forwards.
- gravyface


Yep and losing one of them wont matter
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 3 @ 2:58 PM ET
As long as it's not from behind into the boards, something that he seemed to really specialize in towards the end of the year...


EDIT: Lunchtime

- lumlums



It's 3pm
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 3 @ 3:01 PM ET
He does, but NTC =/= NMC. Only NMC needs to be protected.
- lumlums


i was under the impression that NTC fell under that and that the clause was a generic term

i could be wrong tho
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 3 @ 3:01 PM ET
I meant he will count towards 25% won't he?
- Garnie


only if they expose him

25% of the salary cap must be left exposed
Phenom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TITS baby, TITS - Trust In The Shanaplan, ON
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jul 3 @ 3:02 PM ET
i was only talking about skaters

i am pretty sure andersen will be the goalie they protect

the question is... who do they take on to leave exposed? sign bernier for another year?

- Dozzer


My guess is they acquire a cheap RFA backup, qualify him and leave him exposed. If he gets taken, fine....replace him with somebody else similar.....and if not, there's your backup goalie for 17/18.
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Jul 3 @ 3:03 PM ET
only if they expose him

25% of the salary cap must be left exposed

- Dozzer

The cap or the teams salary?
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 3 @ 3:04 PM ET
only if they expose him

25% of the salary cap must be left exposed

- Dozzer



Duh

My bad.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 3 @ 3:05 PM ET
The cap or the teams salary?
- the_eye


25% of the salary cap
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Jul 3 @ 3:07 PM ET
25% of the salary cap
- Dozzer

well that's going to suck for small market teams, the NHL really going to screw them that bad?
If that's the case the Leafs won't lose a thing.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 3 @ 3:07 PM ET
My guess is they acquire a cheap RFA backup, qualify him and leave him exposed. If he gets taken, fine....replace him with somebody else similar.....and if not, there's your backup goalie for 17/18.
- Phenom


make a deal with the wings for jimmy howard... expose and him and his salary eats up a ton of the required cap exposure

if he doesnt get taken then you have a great mentor and reliable backup goalie to andersen.

and if andersen turns out to be another bernier (doubt it) you have a capable guy who can step in

EDIT: obviously only make the deal if howard agrees to be exposed
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 3 @ 3:08 PM ET
Wrong.

* Players with potential career-ending injuries who have missed more than the previous 60 consecutive games (or who otherwise have been confirmed to have a career-threatening injury) may not be used to satisfy a club's player exposure requirements, unless approval is received from the NHL.

- Iggysbff



Don't have to be protected. Doesn't count against exposure requirements. Two different things.
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Jul 3 @ 3:10 PM ET
make a deal with the wings for jimmy howard... expose and him and his salary eats up a ton of the required cap exposure

if he doesnt get taken then you have a great mentor and reliable backup goalie to andersen.

and if andersen turns out to be another bernier (doubt it) you have a capable guy who can step in

EDIT: obviously only make the deal if howard agrees to be exposed

- Dozzer

I'm pretty sure the Leafs have 24 million dollars of garbage they can expose.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 3 @ 3:10 PM ET
They cannot expose him without consent of the Nhl. Period.

Dozzer may be correct that if they meet the requirement without him then it's moot. But that will be difficult if Lupul is also on LTIR.

As I said previously though it's all up for arguing until the final roster and season actually take place.

- Iggysbff



Wrong. Guys with long term injuries don't have to be protected.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 3 @ 3:10 PM ET
well that's going to suck for small market teams, the NHL really going to screw them that bad?
If that's the case the Leafs won't lose a thing.

- the_eye


they will lose at least one player

its going to be really interesting to see how teams set themselves up for this
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 3 @ 3:12 PM ET
Wrong. Guys with long term injuries don't have to be protected.
- burn


the phrasing here isnt exactly conclusive one way or another

* Players with potential career-ending injuries who have missed more than the previous 60 consecutive games (or who otherwise have been confirmed to have a career-threatening injury) may not be used to satisfy a club's player exposure requirements, unless approval is received from the NHL. Such players also may be deemed exempt from selection by the League.

its the word "may" that bothers me.... if it said "will" that would be far more clearer
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jul 3 @ 3:12 PM ET
I'm pretty sure the Leafs have 24 million dollars of garbage they can expose.
- the_eye

Like?
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Jul 3 @ 3:13 PM ET
they will lose at least one player

its going to be really interesting to see how teams set themselves up for this

- Dozzer

Not enough significant talent on the Leafs to worry about it.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 3 @ 3:16 PM ET
the phrasing here isnt exactly conclusive one way or another

* Players with potential career-ending injuries who have missed more than the previous 60 consecutive games (or who otherwise have been confirmed to have a career-threatening injury) may not be used to satisfy a club's player exposure requirements, unless approval is received from the NHL. Such players also may be deemed exempt from selection by the League.

its the word "may" that bothers me.... if it said "will" that would be far more clearer

- Dozzer




Hat doesn't address protection.... Only talks about the requirements of the cap.

Horton doesn't have to be protected100%
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