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Palfenier
Colorado Avalanche
Location: ON
Joined: 09.22.2013

Jul 4 @ 6:53 AM ET
Duchene will be paid more than Trouba next year unless Chevy or Sakic are stupid.
Duchene is also the only thing the Jets would want, and you guys need defensive help badly. Grigorenko an Pickard won't be more than 3-3.5 million combined, and Burmi's only making 1.55. MacKinnon on the other hand... He will be pricey.

- Rexypoo


To be fair, our defence won't be nearly as bad this year. Getting rid of Holden improves us a lot and people will notice. You can't have dutchy..
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jul 4 @ 9:32 AM ET
To be fair, our defence won't be nearly as bad this year. Getting rid of Holden improves us a lot and people will notice. You can't have dutchy..
- Palfenier


I have a soft spot for Colorado and Nashville, which is ironic because division. Get rid of Roy, and you're fine. Both my Jets and your Avs are in for a bloodbath in the Central.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 4 @ 9:52 AM ET
I have a soft spot for Colorado and Nashville, which is ironic because division. Get rid of Roy, and you're fine. Both my Jets and your Avs are in for a bloodbath in the Central.
- Rexypoo


I like the Jets too, im from Manitoba originally so they have a soft spot for me. Preds are a fun team, now with PK, they are very likable with that roster (minus Neal).

Only way Duchene - Trouba deal works depends on what the Avs do with Barrie. If they move on from him and replace him with a RW help for the Top 6, its a lot of moving parts but they might be a better team with those 2 deals.

However just moving Dutch for a Dman, they open up a huge hole in their offensive, cant be taking 1 major cog out just to repair one portion of the roster. They dont have the luxury of doing that right now
Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Jul 4 @ 11:31 AM ET
I like the Jets too, im from Manitoba originally so they have a soft spot for me. Preds are a fun team, now with PK, they are very likable with that roster (minus Neal).

Only way Duchene - Trouba deal works depends on what the Avs do with Barrie. If they move on from him and replace him with a RW help for the Top 6, its a lot of moving parts but they might be a better team with those 2 deals.

However just moving Dutch for a Dman, they open up a huge hole in their offensive, cant be taking 1 major cog out just to repair one portion of the roster. They dont have the luxury of doing that right now

- DDM-Coga



DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 4 @ 12:08 PM ET

- Mr.Bobby


living in Hot Take Merica
Skywalker87
Colorado Avalanche
Location: MB
Joined: 10.16.2015

Jul 4 @ 9:36 PM ET
finalyl have time to comment on the Avs UFA moves.

They said they weren't going to make a big splash, and they lived up to their word. Small safe sound moves, nothing crazy, but nothing harmful either.

I like them since they are just a bunch of small low risk moves. Now just sign 1 more fwd (Pirri?) for cheap and I think they can just move onto getting their RFAs under contract.

Feel like they have a move or 2 left later on, since I assume the current line set ups will be

Grigo Mack Dutch
Landy Soderberg Rantanen
Comeau Colbourne Iggy
McLeod Mitchell Martinsen
(?)

EJ Bigras
Beauch Barrie
Tyutin Zads
Wiercioch Gelinas

- DDM-Coga


I like the idea of pirri. One year deal prove it type deal.

I like the d pairing to start the season... would like to see Wiercioch in tyutin spot. I feel like a it's his to loose.

Do you think compher or any other rookies besides rant has a shot this year? I feel like he could push for an opening night spot or at least the first 9 games.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jul 4 @ 11:23 PM ET
I like the Jets too, im from Manitoba originally so they have a soft spot for me. Preds are a fun team, now with PK, they are very likable with that roster (minus Neal).

Only way Duchene - Trouba deal works depends on what the Avs do with Barrie. If they move on from him and replace him with a RW help for the Top 6, its a lot of moving parts but they might be a better team with those 2 deals.

However just moving Dutch for a Dman, they open up a huge hole in their offensive, cant be taking 1 major cog out just to repair one portion of the roster. They dont have the luxury of doing that right now

- DDM-Coga


Trouba for Duchene isn't a trade either team NEEDS to make. I'm thinking about the Jets speed, Little's 31 goal year as a RW, and Duchene's faceoff percentage. Would you guys even be comfortable with Soderberg as your 2C? You should've thrown Barrie at Taylor Hall and come back for Trouba.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 4 @ 11:33 PM ET
Trouba for Duchene isn't a trade either team NEEDS to make. I'm thinking about the Jets speed, Little's 31 goal year as a RW, and Duchene's faceoff percentage. Would you guys even be comfortable with Soderberg as your 2C? You should've thrown Barrie at Taylor Hall and come back for Trouba.
- Rexypoo


Soderberg is a respectable 2C for the time being, if he was thrown into that role full time. He probably is going to be back lugging those minutes when the Top 6 will be

Grigo Mack Dutch
Landy Soderberg Rantanen.

Soderberg and Landeskog are really solid together and are as good as a shut down line as the Avs can have. Throw another big body in Rantanen in there that is a offensive threat. Will be a scary line if they play them consistently
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jul 5 @ 12:10 AM ET
Soderberg is a respectable 2C for the time being, if he was thrown into that role full time. He probably is going to be back lugging those minutes when the Top 6 will be

Grigo Mack Dutch
Landy Soderberg Rantanen.

Soderberg and Landeskog are really solid together and are as good as a shut down line as the Avs can have. Throw another big body in Rantanen in there that is a offensive threat. Will be a scary line if they play them consistently

- DDM-Coga


Who was the LW when they had MacKinnon centering Duchene?
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 5 @ 12:37 AM ET
Who was the LW when they had MacKinnon centering Duchene?
- Rexypoo


It was either Landeskog or Grigorenko, both have chemistry on that line
Skywalker87
Colorado Avalanche
Location: MB
Joined: 10.16.2015

Jul 5 @ 12:25 PM ET
It was either Landeskog or Grigorenko, both have chemistry on that line
- DDM-Coga


Wasn't it Landy, then they put grigo with them when Landy got suspense then kept duchene with grigo when Landy came back?

I'm curious to see how grigo grows this coming season. I'm hoping for 15 goals and 25 assists assuming he plays with duchene
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 5 @ 12:48 PM ET
Wasn't it Landy, then they put grigo with them when Landy got suspense then kept duchene with grigo when Landy came back?

I'm curious to see how grigo grows this coming season. I'm hoping for 15 goals and 25 assists assuming he plays with duchene

- Skywalker87


It was the 9 Line to begin with, Landy was up there and yup the suspension happened, then they flip flopping happened but Grigo and Dutch played more often after that.

I think the 3 of them (Mack, Dutch, Grigo) all have solid chemistry and should play most of the season together
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jul 5 @ 1:21 PM ET
It was the 9 Line to begin with, Landy was up there and yup the suspension happened, then they flip flopping happened but Grigo and Dutch played more often after that.

I think the 3 of them (Mack, Dutch, Grigo) all have solid chemistry and should play most of the season together

- DDM-Coga


It'll be interesting to see if Grigorenko can shake off the whole being a bust so far.
Skywalker87
Colorado Avalanche
Location: MB
Joined: 10.16.2015

Jul 5 @ 1:38 PM ET
It'll be interesting to see if Grigorenko can shake off the whole being a bust so far.
- Rexypoo

I look at grigo and zads having clean slates when they came to the avs. Grigo will continue to grow. Zads too. Probably drafted to high but give them 2 more years in this system I think they will turn into solid pros. Grigo I think is being taught how to play the full 200 of the ice, maybe won't turn into a point per game player but I think when hitting his stride a solid 50-65 point player. Lilet a soderberg. Just needs more time. And playing with duchene you saw how good of a player he is. His passing was unbelievable at times and his defensive game grew as well. Aka the subban steal that lead to the late third period goal. In a couple years are top 9 is going to be wicked awesome!
LlamaLord
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Joined: 10.16.2015

Jul 5 @ 1:55 PM ET
It'll be interesting to see if Grigorenko can shake off the whole being a bust so far.
- Rexypoo


I wouldn't really call him a bust. He barely got a chance in BUF, playing what i'm sure was a bottom 6 role. He has already vastly improved in one season over what he did with parts of 3 in Buffalo. 9 out of 10 skill players are going to digress or plateau if you just stick em with a checking line, then throw them in the doghouse when they don't produce. At the very worst he is a decent 3rd liner.
Skywalker87
Colorado Avalanche
Location: MB
Joined: 10.16.2015

Jul 5 @ 2:19 PM ET
I wouldn't really call him a bust. He barely got a chance in BUF, playing what i'm sure was a bottom 6 role. He has already vastly improved in one season over what he did with parts of 3 in Buffalo. 9 out of 10 skill players are going to digress or plateau if you just stick em with a checking line, then throw them in the doghouse when they don't produce. At the very worst he is a decent 3rd liner.
- LlamaLord

I feel that's what his growth will yield. A solid 2nd or 3rd line player. I do expect his point total to be the biggest increaser of the team next year. If he can hit 40 I think that's a solid win for the team
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 5 @ 4:32 PM ET
Picks!
Skywalker87
Colorado Avalanche
Location: MB
Joined: 10.16.2015

Jul 5 @ 4:50 PM ET
Picks!
- DDM-Coga

Boom!!! Next up Mackinnon!
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 5 @ 4:57 PM ET
Boom!!! Next up Mackinnon!
- Skywalker87


1m cap hit for that beautiful bastard. Good deal, Thought he was going to get around 1.25m...Ill take it
Skywalker87
Colorado Avalanche
Location: MB
Joined: 10.16.2015

Jul 5 @ 5:01 PM ET
1m cap hit for that beautiful bastard. Good deal, Thought he was going to get around 1.25m...Ill take it
- DDM-Coga

Is he an rfa at the end of it?
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 5 @ 5:25 PM ET
Is he an rfa at the end of it?
- Skywalker87


yup, still RFA. And he is due for a new contract when there is 1 year of Varlys contract left.

Good deal Avs, they can make their goalie of the future decision in the next 2 years
romefalls19
Colorado Avalanche
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.26.2009

Jul 5 @ 6:17 PM ET
yup, still RFA. And he is due for a new contract when there is 1 year of Varlys contract left.

Good deal Avs, they can make their goalie of the future decision in the next 2 years

- DDM-Coga


Absolutely the best outcome for the Avs could hope for. A very good back up/goalie of the future and a great cap hit for the next two years. Gives us options in 2 years with Varly and trades as well.
Skywalker87
Colorado Avalanche
Location: MB
Joined: 10.16.2015

Jul 5 @ 6:37 PM ET
yup, still RFA. And he is due for a new contract when there is 1 year of Varlys contract left.

Good deal Avs, they can make their goalie of the future decision in the next 2 years

- DDM-Coga

Heck yeah! I'm going to assume he is our goalie we protect as well but a great day for the avs!
Skywalker87
Colorado Avalanche
Location: MB
Joined: 10.16.2015

Jul 5 @ 6:50 PM ET
Barrie and grigo fill for salary arbitration
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