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poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jul 1 @ 5:52 PM ET
I agree with all that but to buy him out doesn't make dollars or sense. It might be an option two more years into the contract, but right now the recapture makes him a cheaper-to-keep'er player...
Although I don't agree that his physical style has been hampered by suspensions or the threat of suspensions, I think it's all between the ears and in his chest. He doesn't have the heart to throw his body around the way he once did. He isn't hungry like that anymore. He's a comfortably paid veteran who's been to the top of the mountain and would like to have a little something left in the tank to coach his sons hockey teams when the curtain finally drops for him.

- Stu17

After being suspended for his hit on Pomminville. Hes gone invisible. Maybe that's just to me. The hunger you speak of. His "training" last year should have proved he was starving. But his training means poop if he isn't going to do the work on the ice. Being in great shape means nothing. If being stripped of the C does nothing for this guy next year. He needs to be bought out. Hes ruining his own legacy. I used to hope he would be like Doan. A consistent 50 point guy. Who was a physical presence. Teams dont even realize hes on the ice. This year is his make or break as a pro.
Stu17
Los Angeles Kings
Location: If its Brown flush it down!, CA
Joined: 10.15.2013

Jul 1 @ 5:53 PM ET
I think the coaching staff is going to try and micromanage his play style to try and retrain him to be a good hockey player. If it works, then there's no reason why he can't slot back in to the top six. Purcell is making bottom six money, so we're not overpaying for a third line guy if Brown works out.

If Brown craps the bed again, then Purcell can play in the top six.

- tkecanuck341

And we'll find out how receptive he is to the staff's micromanaging. But what happens if he reverts during games? And then the time spent with other players practicing and establishing chemistry with linemates is thrown out the window to accommodate DB's game to game play?? Sounds like too much dependence on one players ability to be a good consistent contributor. Brown starts off bottom 6 and if he is on during a game, he can move up and take some shifts, but to slot him there straight from the gate is a mistake.
CrownedKing
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Garden Grove, CA
Joined: 01.06.2015

Jul 1 @ 5:54 PM ET
These signings puzzle me, outside of Zatkoff; I'll dissect in order.
Gilbert- We are supposedly a puck possession team, getting younger and faster. So we get an old, coming off injury, worse corsi dman on the Canadiens? I see this as a waste of a spot that should be given to Gravel. Low upside, just hurts our development. Besides, if we wanted a veteran righty McBain already played well for us, is younger and cheaper.
Trotman Can't get mad about the price or term, but it just seems at best lateral from our own guys of Gravel and Forbort and Ladue. Like that he's right handed, don't mind taking a risk on him but with all the bodies on D someone or two is getting squeezed out and my gut says the youngins
LattaWe having nothing if not bottom 6 depth and prospects that all project bottom 6. Andreoff Nolan Clifford will all fight. Shore will win faceoffs and play defense. Just don't see why you cost Dowd or Shore minutes to sign a player very similar to those you have.
Purcell Not sure how I feel about this, I see a lot of forwards and not enough space, but no top 6 LW. He has the potential to give us 30 points, but so do other players. I'll stay in the middle on this one.
Un-buying out Green HORRIBLE. I applauded Dean yesterday thinking he was finally making a smart hockey move, and had high hopes for today. Instead, he threw a piece of club leadership to the side to childishly chase after a gone player and offered him what surely was not a smart contract. I was happy when I heard we offered Lucic 4 years max, when I heard 6x6 I was not happy and this last ditch effort was immature. His body will breakdown, and he's toast when he loses a step. Anyways, you go out and sign 2 righties, and THEN bring him back? Makes no sense, there are not enough spots for all these bodies, Green knows what you think of him, and the hockey team is no better.
Dean, you really continued your string of questionable decisions starting with the non-buyout of Richards. I grade us as one of the losers today. Clear the cap space with Green and grab Demers instead of all these moves. Oh well, hope I'm wrong.
Stu17
Los Angeles Kings
Location: If its Brown flush it down!, CA
Joined: 10.15.2013

Jul 1 @ 5:56 PM ET
After being suspended for his hit on Pomminville. Hes gone invisible. Maybe that's just to me. The hunger you speak of. His "training" last year should have proved he was starving. But his training means poop if he isn't going to do the work on the ice. Being in great shape means nothing. If being stripped of the C does nothing for this guy next year. He needs to be bought out. Hes ruining his own legacy. I used to hope he would be like Doan. A consistent 50 point guy. Who was a physical presence. Teams dont even realize hes on the ice. This year is his make or break as a pro.
- poisondhearts37

And aside from that how many other suspensions has he suffered? He needs to get back to that edge and not worry about crossing it. Leave that to the league to decide, he can't let his play suffer because he's worried... And as much crap as Doan gets from our fan base, I wish DB would be half the leader Doan is. Doan is a stand up guy who let his emotions get the best of him in a hand shake line, it happens.
Stu17
Los Angeles Kings
Location: If its Brown flush it down!, CA
Joined: 10.15.2013

Jul 1 @ 5:59 PM ET
These signings puzzle me, outside of Zatkoff; I'll dissect in order.
Gilbert- We are supposedly a puck possession team, getting younger and faster. So we get an old, coming off injury, worse corsi dman on the Canadiens? I see this as a waste of a spot that should be given to Gravel. Low upside, just hurts our development. Besides, if we wanted a veteran righty McBain already played well for us, is younger and cheaper.
Trotman Can't get mad about the price or term, but it just seems at best lateral from our own guys of Gravel and Forbort and Ladue. Like that he's right handed, don't mind taking a risk on him but with all the bodies on D someone or two is getting squeezed out and my gut says the youngins
LattaWe having nothing if not bottom 6 depth and prospects that all project bottom 6. Andreoff Nolan Clifford will all fight. Shore will win faceoffs and play defense. Just don't see why you cost Dowd or Shore minutes to sign a player very similar to those you have.
Purcell Not sure how I feel about this, I see a lot of forwards and not enough space, but no top 6 LW. He has the potential to give us 30 points, but so do other players. I'll stay in the middle on this one.
Un-buying out Green HORRIBLE. I applauded Dean yesterday thinking he was finally making a smart hockey move, and had high hopes for today. Instead, he threw a piece of club leadership to the side to childishly chase after a gone player and offered him what surely was not a smart contract. I was happy when I heard we offered Lucic 4 years max, when I heard 6x6 I was not happy and this last ditch effort was immature. His body will breakdown, and he's toast when he loses a step. Anyways, you go out and sign 2 righties, and THEN bring him back? Makes no sense, there are not enough spots for all these bodies, Green knows what you think of him, and the hockey team is no better.
Dean, you really continued your string of questionable decisions starting with the non-buyout of Richards. I grade us as one of the losers today. Clear the cap space with Green and grab Demers instead of all these moves. Oh well, hope I'm wrong.

- CrownedKing

if its any consolation, there are way too many guys on the roster atm, so something must be cooking...
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jul 1 @ 6:00 PM ET
And aside from that how many other suspensions has he suffered? He needs to get back to that edge and not worry about crossing it. Leave that to the league to decide, he can't let his play suffer because he's worried... And as much crap as Doan gets from our fan base, I wish DB would be half the leader Doan is. Doan is a stand up guy who let his emotions get the best of him in a hand shake line, it happens.
- Stu17

Agreed. Its not like hes been suspending many times. But the incident really sticks out to me as a fan. And a fan who has the ability to watch every single game. Since that time. He fell off. If he could be half of Doan it would be great. I agree on that. Doan is the only player you could compare Brown with. And even winning 2 cups. Doan is a superior leader. Hes consistent even in his old age. Often with complete poop team around him. DB needs to step up big this season. I dont wanna hear poop about his training. He needs to get his hear right.
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jul 1 @ 6:00 PM ET
if its any consolation, there are way too many guys on the roster atm, so something must be cooking...
- Stu17

Im thinking King is traded. Im also thinking Amart ( thought i love him) might also be on the move.
Stu17
Los Angeles Kings
Location: If its Brown flush it down!, CA
Joined: 10.15.2013

Jul 1 @ 6:01 PM ET
Agreed. Its not like hes been suspending many times. But the incident really sticks out to me as a fan. And a fan who has the ability to watch every single game. Since that time. He fell off. If he could be half of Doan it would be great. I agree on that. Doan is the only player you could compare Brown with. And even winning 2 cups. Doan is a superior leader. Hes consistent even in his old age. Often with complete poop team around him. DB needs to step up big this season. I dont wanna hear poop about his training. He needs to get his hear right.
- poisondhearts37

word!
tkecanuck341
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jul 1 @ 6:09 PM ET
And we'll find out how receptive he is to the staff's micromanaging. But what happens if he reverts during games? And then the time spent with other players practicing and establishing chemistry with linemates is thrown out the window to accommodate DB's game to game play?? Sounds like too much dependence on one players ability to be a good consistent contributor. Brown starts off bottom 6 and if he is on during a game, he can move up and take some shifts, but to slot him there straight from the gate is a mistake.
- Stu17


I think it depends on his performance in training camp. He's going to have to earn his spot in the lineup, just like everyone else.
LAkings96
Los Angeles Kings
Location: La Verne, CA
Joined: 12.15.2012

Jul 1 @ 6:15 PM ET
Read a tweet that said Kopi should be happy about the Purcell signing. Sorry but Purcell is not a top line LW. Kings still need a top line LW and a top 4 pairing dman, but with all these minor unnecessary signings, I doubt they can afford to fill those holes.
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jul 1 @ 6:16 PM ET
Read a tweet that said Kopi should be happy about the Purcell signing. Sorry but Purcell is not a top line LW. Kings still need a top line LW and a top 4 pairing dman, but with all these minor unnecessary signings, I doubt they can afford to fill those holes.
- LAkings96

Purcell is gonna play with Gabby and Kopi. Not sure whats left for a quality Dman that we can afford without exposing one of our youngsters to waivers. I think 2 current roster players are gonna be traded. But we will.
LAkings96
Los Angeles Kings
Location: La Verne, CA
Joined: 12.15.2012

Jul 1 @ 6:17 PM ET
I think it depends on his performance in training camp. He's going to have to earn his spot in the lineup, just like everyone else.
- tkecanuck341


I think he has that third line RW spot locked down. Don't see anyone really taking it from him.
Ersberg
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 05.26.2009

Jul 1 @ 6:18 PM ET
Most of LA's depth talent is homegrown. They rarely go the route of free agent fill ins.
- Jason_Lewis


Exactly what I mean. Save the money for emergencies only. Maybe take a flyer on some unknown guy, but Gilbert isn't any good. Purcell is at his end as well. Honestly? And this will not be a popular comment, but Brown should have been a compliance BO as well. Oh well, maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised.
LAkings96
Los Angeles Kings
Location: La Verne, CA
Joined: 12.15.2012

Jul 1 @ 6:18 PM ET
Purcell is gonna play with Gabby and Kopi. Not sure whats left for a quality Dman that we can afford without exposing one of our youngsters to waivers. I think 2 current roster players are gonna be traded. But we will.
- poisondhearts37


Sadly I think you are right about Purcell playing with Gabby and Kopi. But something has to happen via trade.
Deadmau55
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.07.2011

Jul 1 @ 6:18 PM ET
I think it depends on his performance in training camp. He's going to have to earn his spot in the lineup, just like everyone else.
- tkecanuck341


I'm starting to think that DB was never the player we thought he was. He was never a great skater, a goal scorer, yeah he could hit, but that only can take you so far. He was a product of the players and team around him. He was over hyped, and is only really known for being a border line dirty player, and the first king to lift the cup. I really believe had kopitar or doughty been captain, the result in 2012 and 2014 would have been the same. Brown on any other team is a 3rd line player at best. Not saying he can't be useful in some situations.. but his decline isn't really that surprising when you look at the player he really is. Some people say that without Brown the kings wouldn't win a cup... I think without the Kings, Brown isn't nearly skilled enough to get anywhere near the cup. Brown is lucky to be on this team and he was lucky to be captain in the first place. imo
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jul 1 @ 6:21 PM ET
Demers on a contract like Amarts would be solid. But a team will pay high to get Demers. Makes one wonder. What is a team willing to play for Amart.
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jul 1 @ 6:24 PM ET
I'm starting to think that DB was never the player we thought he was. He was never a great skater, a goal scorer, yeah he could hit, but that only can take you so far. He was a product of the players and team around him. He was over hyped, and is only really known for being a border line dirty player, and the first king to lift the cup. I really believe had kopitar or doughty been captain, the result in 2012 and 2014 would have been the same. Brown on any other team is a 3rd line player at best. Not saying he can't be useful in some situations.. but his decline isn't really that surprising when you look at the player he really is. Some people say that without Brown the kings wouldn't win a cup... I think without the Kings, Brown isn't nearly skilled enough to get anywhere near the cup. Brown is lucky to be on this team and he was lucky to be captain in the first place. imo
- Deadmau55

Brown needs to allow the players around him to make the plays. Instead of holding onto the puck and trying to do something fancy. For me. At best I always saw brown as a 20goal 50 point player. Top 9 in a line up. Physical. Lead your team in hits. Get in the dirty areas. Hes not a playmaker. Which is why him with Kopi is bad. Because Brown holds the puck for far to long. Instead of letting Kopi make something happen. Id honestly kill for Brown to be a dirty player at this point. Because then. He would be making a difference.
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Jul 1 @ 6:35 PM ET
Would have liked to see Hamhuis in LA.
- poisondhearts37

MikeOxbyg
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 1 @ 7:04 PM ET
Get ready for a healthy portion of mediocrity next season.

Stu17
Los Angeles Kings
Location: If its Brown flush it down!, CA
Joined: 10.15.2013

Jul 1 @ 7:17 PM ET
Exactly what I mean. Save the money for emergencies only. Maybe take a flyer on some unknown guy, but Gilbert isn't any good. Purcell is at his end as well. Honestly? And this will not be a popular comment, but Brown should have been a compliance BO as well. Oh well, maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised.
- Ersberg

3 years ago? Didn't he get that contract 3 years ago??
Ersberg
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 05.26.2009

Jul 1 @ 8:29 PM ET
3 years ago? Didn't he get that contract 3 years ago??
- Stu17


Either way, he shouldn't be on the Kings. He's not totally useless; it's just that he's an expensive redundancy at this stage of the Kings' line-up. He would be perfect for a team like Buffalo. We have a new captain. Brown is expensive. We have guys like King and Nolan that do what Brown can offer. Loyalty beyond the Cup days has cost enough already.
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jul 1 @ 8:39 PM ET
Either way, he shouldn't be on the Kings. He's not totally useless; it's just that he's an expensive redundancy at this stage of the Kings' line-up. He would be perfect for a team like Buffalo. We have a new captain. Brown is expensive. We have guys like King and Nolan that do what Brown can offer. Loyalty beyond the Cup days has cost enough already.
- Ersberg

Oh but he is. He hasn't shown otherwise yet. Speaking of Buffalo. Marcus Foligno would be a nice pick up if possible.
bruin18
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jul 1 @ 9:41 PM ET
These are bottom 6 deals. Fine for what they are. You do not replace Lucic with 3,4,5 or 26 bottom end guys. The only way the Kings get better next year is if Adrian Kempe has breakout 15 goal year
Stu17
Los Angeles Kings
Location: If its Brown flush it down!, CA
Joined: 10.15.2013

Jul 1 @ 10:32 PM ET
These are bottom 6 deals. Fine for what they are. You do not replace Lucic with 3,4,5 or 26 bottom end guys. The only way the Kings get better next year is if Adrian Kempe has breakout 15 goal year
- bruin18

For the Reign?
tkecanuck341
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jul 1 @ 11:01 PM ET
I'm starting to think that DB was never the player we thought he was. He was never a great skater, a goal scorer, yeah he could hit, but that only can take you so far. He was a product of the players and team around him. He was over hyped, and is only really known for being a border line dirty player, and the first king to lift the cup. I really believe had kopitar or doughty been captain, the result in 2012 and 2014 would have been the same. Brown on any other team is a 3rd line player at best. Not saying he can't be useful in some situations.. but his decline isn't really that surprising when you look at the player he really is. Some people say that without Brown the kings wouldn't win a cup... I think without the Kings, Brown isn't nearly skilled enough to get anywhere near the cup. Brown is lucky to be on this team and he was lucky to be captain in the first place. imo
- Deadmau55


Rewatch game 5 of the Stanley Cup finals in 2012. Dustin Brown was amazing.
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