JohnScammo
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Location: Coming to a jail near you Joined: 10.14.2014
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Martin gets exactly what he asked from the Isles months ago.. sorry to see him go at 2.5 mill. - niteislander
Great human being, terrific teammate, did the best he could with his limited talent.... I wish him the best in Toronto. |
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nyisles7
New York Islanders |
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Location: Wrong timing, NY Joined: 01.20.2009
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Well I guess all the guys on here who were going to laugh their ass of when MM was signed for 4 million / year and KO was signed for 7 million per year and frans for 6.5 million a year aren't on here laughing today? |
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ses111
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 06.07.2008
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Great human being, terrific teammate, did the best he could with his limited talent.... I wish him the best in Toronto. - JohnScammo
Good luck to Matt and thanks! Vanek joins Frans with the Wings. |
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Well I guess all the guys on here who were going to laugh their ass of when MM was signed for 4 million / year and KO was signed for 7 million per year and frans for 6.5 million a year aren't on here laughing today? - nyisles7
More and more apparent that management wanted to change the culture of the team. Ladd and Chimera definitely are a change. I still think Snow needs to add one more guy. We'll see what comes next. |
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Isles_since_6
New York Islanders |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 07.13.2009
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Well I guess all the guys on here who were going to laugh their ass of when MM was signed for 4 million / year and KO was signed for 7 million per year and frans for 6.5 million a year aren't on here laughing today? - nyisles7
Are you saying you'd rather have Martin than chimera? |
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Ur Not Me
New York Islanders |
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Location: Long Island, NY Joined: 11.30.2008
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SCLI
New York Islanders |
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Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC Joined: 09.17.2007
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JohnScammo
New York Islanders |
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Location: Coming to a jail near you Joined: 10.14.2014
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Well I guess all the guys on here who were going to laugh their ass of when MM was signed for 4 million / year and KO was signed for 7 million per year and frans for 6.5 million a year aren't on here laughing today? - nyisles7
Yeah, there were some inflated numbers reported, no question about it. Maybe those were the original asking prices from their agents?
Regardless, for me it was about shaking up the team. The three core guys we lost just weren't getting it done. If Snow kept the team the same for another 5 years, we'd all be quoting Einstein's definition of insanity.........doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Fact is, without further changes, the team COULD be worse next season. But it could also be better. I'm willing to give the new guys a chance. |
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Isles_since_6
New York Islanders |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 07.13.2009
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Yeah, there were some inflated numbers reported, no question about it. Maybe those were the original asking prices from their agents?
Regardless, for me it was about shaking up the team. The three core guys we lost just weren't getting it done. If Snow kept the team the same for another 5 years, we'd all be quoting Einstein's definition of insanity.........doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Fact is, without further changes, the team COULD be worse next season. But it could also be better. I'm willing to give the new guys a chance. - JohnScammo
chimera replaces martin, that in itself is a big upgrade. Kills penalties, scored 20 goals playing with wilson and beagle, speed and is nasty. How anyone is upset over this is beyond me. |
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ses111
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 06.07.2008
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More and more apparent that management wanted to change the culture of the team. Ladd and Chimera definitely are a change. I still think Snow needs to add one more guy. We'll see what comes next. - Mancalledsting
It really seems like that. |
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ses111
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 06.07.2008
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chimera replaces martin, that in itself is a big upgrade. Kills penalties, scored 20 goals playing with wilson and beagle, speed and is nasty. How anyone is upset over this is beyond me. - Isles_since_6
I agree. The only downside is his age, but he can still play and the Isles are not in rebuild mode. |
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JohnScammo
New York Islanders |
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Location: Coming to a jail near you Joined: 10.14.2014
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Good luck to Matt and thanks! Vanek joins Frans with the Wings. - ses111
I fully expected that no way was Vanek returning to the Isles. And I'm fine with that... |
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ses111
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 06.07.2008
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Yeah, there were some inflated numbers reported, no question about it. Maybe those were the original asking prices from their agents?
Regardless, for me it was about shaking up the team. The three core guys we lost just weren't getting it done. If Snow kept the team the same for another 5 years, we'd all be quoting Einstein's definition of insanity.........doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Fact is, without further changes, the team COULD be worse next season. But it could also be better. I'm willing to give the new guys a chance. - JohnScammo
Could not agree more. Further moves are needed no question. I'm willing to give it some time. |
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ses111
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 06.07.2008
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I fully expected that no way was Vanek returning to the Isles. And I'm fine with that... - JohnScammo
I knew he would not be brought back and he does not fit with the character guys brought in today. |
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mdw7413
New York Rangers |
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Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro Joined: 12.13.2013
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chimera replaces martin, that in itself is a big upgrade. Kills penalties, scored 20 goals playing with wilson and beagle, speed and is nasty. How anyone is upset over this is beyond me. - Isles_since_6
That was the key. As much as Martin is a fan favorite and all around good guy, Chimera in the short term is a better player. |
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Isles_since_6
New York Islanders |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 07.13.2009
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That was the key. As much as Martin is a fan favorite and all around good guy, Chimera in the short term is a better player. - mdw7413
20 goals vs 19 points, faster, penalty killer, doesn't hit as much but is much meaner than martin. I want guys like this on the isles. can play on 3rd or 4th line and costs a bit less. |
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Isles_since_6
New York Islanders |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 07.13.2009
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Nick Leddy @ledpipe08 2m2 minutes ago
Hey @DuncanKeith are you jealous me and laddy daddy are teammates?? @aladd16 welcome to the Island! |
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Isles_since_6
New York Islanders |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 07.13.2009
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I knew he would not be brought back and he does not fit with the character guys brought in today. - ses111
ek had us in on him so I felt pretty good about it not happening. |
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Isles_since_6
New York Islanders |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 07.13.2009
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Arthur Staple @StapeNewsday 1m1 minute ago
Holdup on Ladd announcement is that he's on a plane back home. Should be official shortly. |
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LItransplant44
Season Ticket Holder New York Islanders |
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Location: Wesley Chapel, FL Joined: 04.25.2016
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So far we are tougher to play against and appear to be better in the playoffs. I loved Martin but I thought he was almost too nice to opposing players. Not nasty enough. What would we have to give up to get JVR, or Landeskog? How does everyone feel about the rumor that we were looking into Evander Kane? He has serious talent but has had numerous off ice issues. |
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JohnScammo
New York Islanders |
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Location: Coming to a jail near you Joined: 10.14.2014
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So far we are tougher to play against and appear to be better in the playoffs. I loved Martin but I thought he was almost too nice to opposing players. Not nasty enough. What would we have to give up to get JVR, or Landeskog? How does everyone feel about the rumor that we were looking into Evander Kane? He has serious talent but has had numerous off ice issues. - LItransplant44
Evander Kane seems to be a locker room cancer. Pass. |
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Isles_since_6
New York Islanders |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 07.13.2009
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Evander Kane seems to be a locker room cancer. Pass. - JohnScammo
Living off one good year, injury prone, off ice issues, character issues. Hard stop, if his name is mentioned hang up the phone |
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nyisles7
New York Islanders |
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Location: Wrong timing, NY Joined: 01.20.2009
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More and more apparent that management wanted to change the culture of the team. Ladd and Chimera definitely are a change. I still think Snow needs to add one more guy. We'll see what comes next. - Mancalledsting
Well that isn't totally correct the Islanders apparently offered Frans more money and more term but he left anyway. Also heard the Islanders were still speaking with MM today so I think your right on KO but not the other 2.
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Isles_since_6
New York Islanders |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 07.13.2009
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Well that isn't totally correct the Islanders apparently offered Frans more money and more term but he left anyway. Also heard the Islanders were still speaking with MM today so I think your right on KO but not the other 2. - nyisles7
I would have been okay with franz coming back, but he made his choice and I wish him good luck. Hadn't seen anything saying isles had talked to Martin. Re nielsen, I think it was a bit more total money but spread over 7 years instead of 6 so a bit less per, either way snow clearly wanted him back and franz chose to try somewhere new.
either way, once chimera signed there's no room for martin. Kulemin takes his spot, chimera on third line and one top six in trade and this team should be moving in the right direction if the trade is for the right guy. |
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Hey Garth, after EVERYTHING, we STILL need a top line winger for Tavares. (Oh, and a 2C) |
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