can they send him all the way to the echl?

honest question... i really dont know
- Dozzer

Yes, although the NHLPA would probably file a grievance.

To me this sounds like the kid thinks his career is over.

Otherwise you take the buyout, become a UFA and sign elsewhere.

Two paycheques at once.

i'm more than okay with no one... let the kids fight for their spots in camp
- Dozzer

Moi aussi. Tu fait une bonne pense.

it isnt dishonourable to expect whats owed to you

and sign somewhere else? no (frank)ing way anyone signs him... and if somehow some gm got drunk enough to do so it certainly wouldnt be for 3 million

he is well within his rights... both morally and legally
- Dozzer

Someone will Dozzie. Some one will. There is always that one team out there.

it isnt dishonourable to expect whats owed to you

and sign somewhere else? no (frank)ing way anyone signs him... and if somehow some gm got drunk enough to do so it certainly wouldnt be for 3 million

he is well within his rights... both morally and legally
- Dozzer

Why did he ask to play last year if he did nothing questionable morally? Why did this mysterious injury develop only after he was placed on waivers? Leafs exercised a legal right to buy him out and he faked an injury - what is honorable and legal about that?

Yes, although the NHLPA would probably file a grievance.

To me this sounds like the kid thinks his career is over.

Otherwise you take the buyout, become a UFA and sign elsewhere.

Two paycheques at once.
- Atomic Wedgie

yeah i agree... but no one is signing cowen

he wants what is owed to him... fair enough

He could be a free agent if bought out and if he chose that more difficult but more honorable route, he could easily make the same money. I don't blame Cowen either, some people cheat insurance companies, some are thieves and some work for their money. It's more a question of character, which is why I called him a cockroach. All that said, I think the Leafs will win this one in arbitration.
- winsix

You need to step back and gain some perspective.

You don't know Cowen.

You don't know a damn thing about his medical condition.

So please spare us the personal insults.

The NHL and NHLPA have a collective bargaining agreement that will dictate how this plays out.

Having surgery that was recommended by a doctor does not make him a cockroach.

Why did he ask to play last year if he did nothing questionable morally? Why did this mysterious injury develop only after he was placed on waivers? Leafs exercised a legal right to buy him out and he faked an injury - what is honorable and legal about that?
- winsix

Be honest - In the same situation, what would you do?

Why did he ask to play last year if he did nothing questionable morally? Why did this mysterious injury develop only after he was placed on waivers? Leafs exercised a legal right to buy him out and he faked an injury - what is honorable and legal about that?
- winsix

1: their is simply no factual evidence that he faked anything

2: the leafs took him with the intent of using him for a cap tool and nothing more

3: he never signed with the leafs, he never got to play a game for the leafs or the marlies, nor did the leafs want him too... they actually gave him permission to speak to other teams mid season.

IF it was a faked injury the leafs were fully on board with it. he owes this franchise nothing... absolutely nothing. i dont blame him one bit.

Demers to FLA

5 yrs, 22.5M

Demers to FLA

5 yrs, 22.5M
- MCharisma91

Not as bad as I anticipated.

when you trade for a player you also are trading for their contract.

they come as a pair.

if he is bought out cowen stands to lose 3 million dollars. i dont blame him one bit.
- Dozzer

I don't blame him either but if you want to play that game with Lou, you better know how to swim with cement boots.

Demers to FLA

5 yrs, 22.5M
- MCharisma91

That's a (frank)ing great deal.


The Florida teams are nailing this off-season

You need to step back and gain some perspective.

You don't know Cowen.

You don't know a damn thing about his medical condition.

So please spare us the personal insults.

The NHL and NHLPA have a collective bargaining agreement that will dictate how this plays out.

Having surgery that was recommended by a doctor does not make him a cockroach.
- Atomic Wedgie

No, it makes this new Doctor the cockroach

Edit: most doctors are AMIRIGHT LUMS?

That's a (frank)ing great deal.


The Florida teams are nailing this off-season
- lumlums

hopefully we don't get stuck with Russell... even if his asking price lowers.

edit;

Chris Johnston ‏@reporterchris now5 seconds ago
Word is that Demers took a little less on this deal than others were offering to join #FlaPanthers. Been an ambitious off-season in Florida.

hopefully we don't get stuck with Russell... even if his asking price lowers.

edit;

Chris Johnston ‏@reporterchris now5 seconds ago
Word is that Demers took a little less on this deal than others were offering to join #FlaPanthers. Been an ambitious off-season in Florida.
- MCharisma91

I bet/hope that any D we acquire come by way if trade.

No, it makes this new Doctor the cockroach

Edit: most doctors are AMIRIGHT LUMS?
- Garnie

I'd say that the cockroach is the guy who willingly drinks Bud Light Lime....

I bet/hope that any D we acquire come by way if trade.
- Canada Cup

could be. You think they're waiting on Vesey before dealing JVR for a Dman?

You need to step back and gain some perspective.

You don't know Cowen.

You don't know a damn thing about his medical condition.

So please spare us the personal insults.

The NHL and NHLPA have a collective bargaining agreement that will dictate how this plays out.

Having surgery that was recommended by a doctor does not make him a cockroach.
- Atomic Wedgie

You are correct, I do not know about his medical condition. If you have seen a report by a doctor that recommended surgery, you have information I have not seen yet.

Put yourself in Leaf's management position.
Wouldn't you find it rather suspicious that an injury is reported after the team's intent is explained? I will await the ruling in arbitration, pulling for the Leafs.

could be. You think they're waiting on Vesey before dealing JVR for a Dman?
- MCharisma91

Dumba, Fowler, Hamonic or Trouba?

Reading about the Radulov signing - I hate to admit it, but it sounds likeva good move.

He was captain of his KHL team, which probably indicates he has matured.

And apparently they consulted Weber, who endorsed the idea of signing him.

You are correct, I do not know about his medical condition. If you have seen a report by a doctor that recommended surgery, you have information I have not seen yet.

Put yourself in Leaf's management position.
Wouldn't you find it rather suspicious that an injury is reported after the team's intent is explained? I will await the ruling in arbitration, pulling for the Leafs.
- winsix

It's well-known that his hip is franked.

That's why Ottawa dumped him.

Dumba, Fowler, Hamonic or Trouba?
- mr.sir

Dumba

I'd say that the cockroach is the guy who willingly drinks Bud Light Lime....
- lumlums

That makes sense

Reading about the Radulov signing - I hate to admit it, but it sounds likeva good move.

He was captain of his KHL team, which probably indicates he has matured.

And apparently they consulted Weber, who endorsed the idea of signing him.
- Atomic Wedgie

The assault on his coach was a true sign he has matured.

1: their is simply no factual evidence that he faked anything

2: the leafs took him with the intent of using him for a cap tool and nothing more

3: he never signed with the leafs, he never got to play a game for the leafs or the marlies, nor did the leafs want him too... they actually gave him permission to speak to other teams mid season.

IF it was a faked injury the leafs were fully on board with it. he owes this franchise nothing... absolutely nothing. i dont blame him one bit.
- Dozzer

I agree with this statement, I do not blame him at all. It is a question of ethics for me, and we will see the results after arbitration when more facts come out.