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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 2 @ 10:01 AM ET
2 people work together and don't get along.... Which one does the company want to get rid of, the higher ranked guy that does his job really well or the shlub who is mediocre at his?
- burn



I don't think it was just 2 people though...I agree you get rid of the scrub if it was...I think it was much bigger....like many players including some of their top forwards.

Just my thoughts...and his on ice theatrics gets old quick. IMO

I can understand both sides but lean in favour towards the trade.



Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Jul 2 @ 10:04 AM ET
Woah woah woah.

Dog poop? Nobody said that. But Larsson is not even close to being worth the 4th leading scorer the last few seasons. Not even close.

- systemtool



I'm not saying you guys called him dog poop, but the outrage over this trade is puzzling. Did anyone thing getting a 23 year old top pair RHD was going to be cheap?

Now that Larsson plays on a team that actually scores goals and will likely get some PP time I think people are going to be very surprised.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 2 @ 10:05 AM ET
we'll have to wait and see.. but I doubt theres a single NJ fan who doesn't like the trade.

and we are saving our surprised reactions for Zaitsev..

- Arctic_AARDVARK


Fun fact of the day. Zaitsev had as many goals in the playoffs this year as Radulov. 4 each.
Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Jul 2 @ 10:05 AM ET
we'll have to wait and see.. but I doubt theres a single NJ fan who doesn't like the trade.

and we are saving our surprised reactions for Zaitsev..

- Arctic_AARDVARK



Of course. When you are the lowest scoring team in the league (by a wide margin) and you bring in Hall it's a great thing. But I don't think anyone is dancing in the street to be rid of Larsson.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 2 @ 10:06 AM ET
I don't think it was just 2 people though...I agree you get rid of the scrub if it was...I think it was much bigger....like many players including some of their top forwards.

Just my thoughts...and his on ice theatrics gets old quick. IMO

I can understand both sides but lean in favour towards the trade.

- Garnie



Outside of price there isn't anyone they should be sick g with over price. They were "upset he was seeming to have too much fun" that is utterly moronic. They should want ore of that, not less. It's lunacy.
Tanooki
Location: Professional propagandist, Val D’or
Joined: 06.28.2016

Jul 2 @ 10:06 AM ET
D>wingers

No chance you get OEL...so Edm sits on 103 power forwards and misses playoffs some more because they have no D?

I'll wait and see myself...Larsson sounds like a good player but I'll wait and watch.

You could be right ( on the bad trade ) but we won't know for awhile IMO

- Garnie

Defence isnt necessarily more important than wingers..

Hall is one of the best wingers in the game.. I know OEL isnt being moved, but Edmonton should have demanded more..

They traded a very good 1st overall pick for a defenceman who doesnt score..
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 2 @ 10:06 AM ET
I'm not saying you guys called him dog poop, but the outrage over this trade is puzzling. Did anyone thing getting a 23 year old top pair RHD was going to be cheap?

Now that Larsson plays on a team that actually scores goals and will likely get some PP time I think people are going to be very surprised.

- Mr.Bobby



Alot will need to happen before I even begin to start thinking of this as anything other than a fleecing.
The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Jul 2 @ 10:08 AM ET
2 people work together and don't get along.... Which one does the company want to get rid of, the higher ranked guy that does his job really well or the shlub who is mediocre at his?
- burn


In todays business environment, whoever costs the company more in wages and benefits.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 2 @ 10:08 AM ET
Defence isnt necessarily more important than wingers..

Hall is one of the best wingers in the game.. I know OEL isnt being moved, but Edmonton should have demanded more..

They traded a very good 1st overall pick for a defenceman who doesnt score..

- Tanooki


I dont think it should matter what position they play. You don't trade an elite player at a position for a good player at another.
nbboy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jul 2 @ 10:08 AM ET
Of course. When you are the lowest scoring team in the league (by a wide margin) and you bring in Hall it's a great thing. But I don't think anyone is dancing in the street to be rid of Larsson.
- Mr.Bobby

Should of got more
Tanooki
Location: Professional propagandist, Val D’or
Joined: 06.28.2016

Jul 2 @ 10:08 AM ET
Fun fact of the day. Zaitsev had as many goals in the playoffs this year as Radulov. 4 each.
- systemtool

Zaitsev>everyone.. ever.
Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Jul 2 @ 10:09 AM ET
Alot will need to happen before I even begin to start thinking of this as anything other than a fleecing.
- systemtool



Well Edmonton gave up 2.95 goals per game last year, if a healthy Klefbom and Larsson can get that team down to anywhere near league average, would it be worht the move?
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 2 @ 10:10 AM ET
Defence isnt necessarily more important than wingers..

Hall is one of the best wingers in the game.. I know OEL isnt being moved, but Edmonton should have demanded more..

They traded a very good 1st overall pick for a defenceman who doesnt score..

- Tanooki



They have lots of scoring ability up front...they need D

We had a great scoring winger too...it didn't get us too far because our D was horrific.

Sure they may have overpaid, but that was destiny regardless of who they traded for. IMO
Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Jul 2 @ 10:11 AM ET
Should of got more
- nbboy



Keep in mind Edmonton has Larsson for 5 more years at a 4 mil cap hit. That had to factor into their decision. Edmonton isn't exactly on the wish list of places to sign for most players.
Tanooki
Location: Professional propagandist, Val D’or
Joined: 06.28.2016

Jul 2 @ 10:12 AM ET
Outside of price there isn't anyone they should be sick g with over price. They were "upset he was seeming to have too much fun" that is utterly moronic. They should want ore of that, not less. It's lunacy.
- burn

Errmm

If i were the athlete i would agree... But if i were management i wouldnt like him always having "fun"..

PK just seemed like he needed an adjustment.. his ego was too high.. and im sure he was humbled by the trade.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jul 2 @ 10:12 AM ET
Thought I'd share this.
- systemtool

He's just showing us we don't have this great example of CHaracter on the Leafs.

Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 2 @ 10:12 AM ET
Outside of price there isn't anyone they should be sick g with over price. They were "upset he was seeming to have too much fun" that is utterly moronic. They should want ore of that, not less. It's lunacy.
- burn



I don't think him having too much fun was the reason for the trade...

Anyways, just seeing both sides...I think he's a good D....just would avoid on my team if I could.

Tanooki
Location: Professional propagandist, Val D’or
Joined: 06.28.2016

Jul 2 @ 10:14 AM ET
I dont think it should matter what position they play. You don't trade an elite player at a position for a good player at another.
- systemtool

exactly.

Ive always been a fan of Hall.. I like the way he plays and how he carries himself.. Ill probably cheer for NJ a bit next year.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 2 @ 10:14 AM ET
He's just showing us we don't have this great example of CHaracter on the Leafs.


- LeafMan



Ya, no ones ever used a homophobic slur before...that's a little weak IMO...we grew up saying "don't be a ***"
Tanooki
Location: Professional propagandist, Val D’or
Joined: 06.28.2016

Jul 2 @ 10:15 AM ET
Well Edmonton gave up 2.95 goals per game last year, if a healthy Klefbom and Larsson can get that team down to anywhere near league average, would it be worht the move?
- Mr.Bobby

No..

Unless Larsson is a Norris nominee next year Edmonton lost the trade.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 2 @ 10:17 AM ET
exactly.

Ive always been a fan of Hall.. I like the way he plays and how he carries himself.. Ill probably cheer for NJ a bit next year.

- Tanooki


Nobody is giving you their #1 d for HALL, nobody unless you wanted Subban at $9m and you gave up Hall and Pull-ur-jarvi...not a trade I would have done.

Has anyone in here watched Larsson for more than 3 shifts? Ya, me either.

I'm hoping for Edm he helps them make the playoffs.

Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Jul 2 @ 10:17 AM ET
Ya, no ones ever used a homophobic slur before...that's a little weak IMO...we grew up saying "don't be a ***"
- Garnie



I think the most damning thing about the Candiens happened yesterday when their GM essentially said "I signed Radulov because no one else wanted to come here, what do you want from me."
grim1911
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 2 @ 10:19 AM ET
Ya, no ones ever used a homophobic slur before...that's a little weak IMO...we grew up saying "don't be a ***"
- Garnie


sometimes its not what you say, its how and where you say it
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 2 @ 10:19 AM ET
No..

Unless Larsson is a Norris nominee next year Edmonton lost the trade.

- Tanooki




Come on, Edm probably did better than Leafs did with Kessel
Tanooki
Location: Professional propagandist, Val D’or
Joined: 06.28.2016

Jul 2 @ 10:19 AM ET
Ya, no ones ever used a homophobic slur before...that's a little weak IMO...we grew up saying "don't be a ***"
- Garnie

the whole chart is weak...

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