You've named 13 forwards there - who last year scored a total of 107 even strength goals (including 3x3 in OT) - only PAK + Toews had more than 10.

You can't go into a season with that little proven fire power and that much inexperience and hope to put it all together.
- StLBravesFan

Well, you can



"We like our team"- Stan

Mason Raymond would be an interesting cheap option if the hawks are desperate for speed, would be interesting to see what he might be able to do with a Toews and Hossa
- cnfan261311

if by interesting you mean falling over the ice, then yes it would be interesting.
he hasn't been a useful player for 3 seasons.

el passo

if by interesting you mean falling over the ice, then yes it would be interesting.
he hasn't been a useful player for 3 seasons.

el passo
- TTtime

So is StanBo done or..?

Yakupov is a (left shooting) RW. Moving him to LW is probably not a good idea when he hasn't yet even mastered the position he is most familiar with. Besides that, he would probably have the best chance to develop into the type of player he was supposed to be if he plays RW and has 72-15 to play with him.
- EbonyRaptor

Well, putKane with Hossa and Toews, I make the trade.yakupov with Panerin and AA,
Oh geez, Evander Kane, I would like to see that thru rose colored glasses too. He'd be good for 1 year, then the Hawks re up him and all of a sudden he turns into another Tank Johnson . I pass on that 1.

Am i the only one that wouldn't mind at all if we got Versteeg back for the right price? He's shown he can be a very effective 3rd liner, and also a guy you can plug in the top 6LW on a line with Kaner.
- SimpleJack

Hey Jack several us wouldn't mind Versteeg at all and you'd have to think that's becoming a real possibility at this point.

Move Panarin up to 1LW and slot Versteeg in with AA and Kane. The cap is the cap.

As far as Campbell he played top minutes last season and is your #4dman right now.
And you got him for a song. Big upgrade. As already mentioned Hawks probably get by the Blues with Soupy back there last season.

You've named 13 forwards there - who last year scored a total of 107 even strength goals (including 3x3 in OT) - only PAK + Toews had more than 10.

You can't go into a season with that little proven fire power and that much inexperience and hope to put it all together.
- StLBravesFan

Whether you can or can't doesn't really seem to matter at this point. Even if we get one more "proven" winger, we still will have a lot of inexperience (or experience that doesn't score much) on this team.

We need to face the fact that unless a trade can be made to significantly open up some space, we are going to be counting on either unproven or historically low performing players making up about 1/3 - 1/2 of the team.

I personally am fine with that as long as the Hawks stop trading away most of their best prospects at the TDL for rentals that are moderate upgrades. We need to keep the lower level stocked so that it doesn't hurt quite as much at this time every year.

You've named 13 forwards there - who last year scored a total of 107 even strength goals (including 3x3 in OT) - only PAK + Toews had more than 10.

You can't go into a season with that little proven fire power and that much inexperience and hope to put it all together.
- StLBravesFan

Hey.... Q got his D-man so its all good. Its quite obvious who is telling who what to do. And it needs to stop.

So is StanBo done or..?
- MichaeLionheart

If he wants to deal, these are the players on the big league roster without any NMC/NTC contracts:

Krug
Panik
Panarin
Desi
Moose
Campbell
TVR
Svedberg
Gus
Rozsival

Experts:
Nail Yakupov, what is the complete book on him, I thought he was a highly touted 1st round pick.would he turn a page and find his game maybe under a different situation like here in Chicago or does he fall under the same category as a 1st round disappointment, If he has high end potential and we gave away Tuevo, TVR , you already know what you have, this kid could possibly turn into what he was projected to be leaving that pressure cooker in Edmonton, I make the trade if that is theDeal, TVR for Yak and put him right with 19&88.
- wonthecup10

in one word.


bust.

- EnzoD

even at his best, he kind of sucked. so no.

You've named 13 forwards there - who last year scored a total of 107 even strength goals (including 3x3 in OT) - only PAK + Toews had more than 10.

You can't go into a season with that little proven fire power and that much inexperience and hope to put it all together.
- StLBravesFan

I wish i could disagree, i wish you were wrong, but sadly you aren't.....

I just think if we're gonna go with what we have(which as you said isn't enough), we might as well spread out the known commodities as much as we can.

in one word.


bust.
- TTtime

Has there ever been a worse #1 overall pick in NHL history? Anyone??

in one word.


bust.
- TTtime

The Oilers are a (frank)ing mess, I wouldnt call Yakapov a fail until he fails on another team as well.

Has there ever been a worse #1 overall pick in NHL history? Anyone??
- EnzoD

Alain Daigle says hello.

Has there ever been a worse #1 overall pick in NHL history? Anyone??
- EnzoD

LaRue Martin - Portland - 1972 - out of Loyola.

Oh - didn't see that you had limited it to hockey.

Alain Daigle says hello.
- TTtime

Just crazy to me that people paid to evaluate hockey ability could not see that Alex Galchenyuk made Nail good in the OHL. I dont watch the Oil nearly enough, but unless Vesey has given StanBo a secret love letter declaring his love for Toews + Hossa....I'd take a chance on him for a mid-round draft pick. What other options is Stan looking at in the Top 6??

EDIT: You meant Alexandre Daigle, right? and that is assuming that EDM retains salary

The Oilers are a (frank)ing mess, I wouldnt call Yakapov a fail until he fails on another team as well.
- mrpaulish

the Oilers were trying to give him away for a 3rd rd pick at the TDL. No one wanted him.

if he made 650K, go ahead a take a shot. its 2.5M for him.

add it all up and to me equals

Bust

LaRue Martin - Portland - 1972 - out of Loyola.

Oh - didn't see that you had limited it to hockey.
- StLBravesFan

and Greg Oden (Portland has a knack for bad drafts - Bowie over Jordan, anyone?)

Its mind boggling how far the Lakers have fallen off the map.

What a complete dumpster fire their entire organization has become. Such a shame....

They can't even get a sit down with Kevin Durant and they have 60mil in cap space. While the Clippers(who have zero cap space) are able to meet with Durant no problem.
- SimpleJack

It's because Jim Buss is an incompetent b00b. Unfortunately, when the Good Dr. left this earth, he didn't turn it completely over to Jeannie. She is a really smart lady and would have turned that thing around IMHO. But Jim thinks's he knows everything when he doesn't know sqadush.

Just crazy to me that people paid to evaluate hockey ability could not see that Alex Galchenyuk made Nail good in the OHL. I dont watch the Oil nearly enough, but unless Vesey has given StanBo a secret love letter declaring his love for Toews + Hossa....I'd take a chance on him for a mid-round draft pick. What other options is Stan looking at in the Top 6??
- EnzoD

Daigle had talent for days.
He just didn't want to play hockey anymore. Kind of hard to measure that.


idk. But tell me why Panik can't be it. Because the Leaf didn't want him? Tamps likes their other forwards better? Panik was a 2nd round pick for a reason. Talent and skill have never been an issue for him. Dedication, effort and defensive play was.

Tell me honestly. Did you see a player who didn't care? Plays balls out every time? Get better defensively?

Also. Show me any player in the Hawks system and out there right now that has the most similar attributes as a player as Saad?

Just remember. Sharp was traded for Matt (frank)ing Ellison. So mistakes are made all the time.

Just crazy to me that people paid to evaluate hockey ability could not see that Alex Galchenyuk made Nail good in the OHL. I dont watch the Oil nearly enough, but unless Vesey has given StanBo a secret love letter declaring his love for Toews + Hossa....I'd take a chance on him for a mid-round draft pick. What other options is Stan looking at in the Top 6??

EDIT: You meant Alexandre Daigle, right? and that is assuming that EDM retains salary
- EnzoD

yeah i did. got his first name wrong.

Can someone explain the exact legal situation with Evander Kane? If he is bought out, would Hawks have interest if the legal process found nothing? Not saying I want him as I need to know more about his legal situation. But he seems a very viable top six guy just based on on ice evaluation. Dont shoot messenger, just inquiring.
- onehundredlevel

He's not worth the baggage. He isn't a top 6 player on a winning team.

Well, you can



"We like our team"- Stan
- EnzoD

Daigle had talent for days.
He just didn't want to play hockey anymore. Kind of hard to measure that.


idk. But tell me why Panik can't be it. Because the Leaf didn't want him? Tamps likes their other forwards better? Panik was a 2nd round pick for a reason. Talent and skill have never been an issue for him. Dedication, effort and defensive play was.

Tell me honestly. Did you see a player who didn't care? Plays balls out every time? Get better defensively?

Also. Show me any player in the Hawks system and out there right now that has the most similar attributes as a player as Saad?

Just remember. Sharp was traded for Matt (frank)ing Ellison. So mistakes are made all the time.
- TTtime

I am a big fan of Richard Panik, and was actually pining for him to be used more often during the season. Size, speed, physicality, and a nice release. His puck control leaves plenty to be desired, but he was a very effective player for the Hawks down the stretch and in Round 1. I think that is likely Plan B for Stan. My only concern would be...what if Panik cant fill that role? It is a big risk to bank on Panik as the 1LW in what very may well be the Hawks last 1-2 years of legitimate Cup Contention (without a major salary reduction/shakeup). Hossa is 38 and re-signing Panarin is no guarantee. There is an ascension and a very rapid decline with a Hard Salary cap. The Hawks have addressed their D-Core, and have a Top 3 defense in the NHL as it stands currently, IMO. However, they were a 1 line scoring team last year, and lost Shaw, Ladd, and Tuevo. I like Panik much more at 3LW, but I'm not sure Stan has any other choice than to place him at 1LW and see what happens...