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hawkeytalkman
Joined: 01.11.2016

Jul 1 @ 1:50 PM ET
Eric Engels ‏@EricEngels 2m2 minutes ago
One year, 5.75M for Radulov.
JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Jul 1 @ 1:50 PM ET
Pretty sure no signing until August 15 with college UFAs.
- Marlowe

Correct.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jul 1 @ 1:50 PM ET
Harvey Fialkov ‏@hfialkov 23s23 seconds ago

Wow. Just heard Campbell turned down one year deal for $5 million with Panthers #really

- JRoenick97



Filakov is a mouthpiece for the team. Period.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jul 1 @ 1:51 PM ET
Signed for $5mil less....that $5mil will allow them to keep almost all of their complementary "Core" members....
- EnzoD

I disagree it my look like rainbows but...
Questionable

This year the guys who need new deals since they include Kucherov at at very least 6 million, Vladislav Namestnikov, Nikita Nesterov, and next year Andrei Vasilevskiy, Tyler Johnson, Alex Killorn, and Drouin re-up that I am pretty sure won't be a agreeable "bridge" deal...
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Jul 1 @ 1:51 PM ET
100% agreed. Nashville and Minnesota are strong.

STL took a step back, Dallas lost D and has goaltending issues.

is what it is.

I get the blind loyalty to an extent, but people wishing for a "few more signings" don't realize the cap issue. you dont' have the money to pick up a guy to replace Shaw...you are hoping for an internal replacement. Lets hope Bowman's young assets come to play or else this core will have to be blown sky high to rebuild and free up money.

- SteveRain



What I don't get is you cite PITT's depth - which included younger players stepping up and a 39 year old Cullen. And the Hawks are going to rely on a few young players to step up and probably look to sign a older vet - but they won't be contenders?

It takes that lucky lightening in the bottle to pan out - Cullen, Richards, Handzus - for teams up against the cap to win.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jul 1 @ 1:51 PM ET
@reporterchris

BREAKING: Victor Hedman signs eight-year extension with #TBLightning. S7.875M AAV.

- DarthKane


This HAD to get done no matter term or money. Stevie Y has one big headache out of the way.
hawkeytalkman
Joined: 01.11.2016

Jul 1 @ 1:51 PM ET
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 24s25 seconds ago
Jeff Zatkoff, two years, $900K AAV, to LAK.
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Jul 1 @ 1:52 PM ET
Thanks Eli! he is at about 0.50 PPG in the AHL, so would you say he has fairly limited offensive ability? Can he create his own shot? He had nice wheels in his short stint with the Hawks, but Shaw has been close to 40 points in the NHL, and Hartman hasnt hit 40 points in the minors. I'm tempering my expectations for Hartman.
- EnzoD

FWIW Shaw never hit to 40 pts in the minors either and had similar ease to be suckered into penalties as Hartman does now
bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Jul 1 @ 1:53 PM ET
670 The Score
@670TheScore
Stan Bowman: "I don't expect us to sign a player of significance beyond today. ... I like our team right now."

There's that line. And Q won't like the team now. Here's hoping a few bargains pop up.

- golfbard



Who the frank is our other top 6 LW? He likes a forward roster that is significantly worse than last years team that went one and done?
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Jul 1 @ 1:53 PM ET
This HAD to get done no matter term or money. Stevie Y has one big headache out of the way.
- Mr Ricochet

Is Stevie Y still interested in Gus for Drouin straight up?!
WEWANTCUP
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: ON
Joined: 02.01.2013

Jul 1 @ 1:54 PM ET
Signed for $5mil less....that $5mil will allow them to keep almost all of their complementary "Core" members....
- EnzoD


The reason why Stamkos and Hedman signed for about $5 million less than Toews and Kane, is because they don't have to pay as much in taxes as in other States.

Take a look at the Steven Stamkos Contract Calculator that TSN posted a few days ago to give you an example of what other teams would have to pay Stamkos in order to provide him with a comparable net salary.

I don't know what the taxes are in Illinois, but I bet they are comparable to what New York residents pay, and if what is the case, they would have had to pay Stamkos $12.3 million per year in order to provide him with a comparable take home salary that he will be getting with his $8.5 million per year contract that he signed with Tampa.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/stamkos

So by the looks of it, Toews and Kane are taking home less than Stamkos and Hedman.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jul 1 @ 1:54 PM ET
I disagree it my look like rainbows but...
Questionable

This year the guys who need new deals since they include Kucherov at at very least 6 million, Vladislav Namestnikov, Nikita Nesterov, and next year Andrei Vasilevskiy, Tyler Johnson, Alex Killorn, and Drouin re-up that I am pretty sure won't be a agreeable "bridge" deal...

- wiz1901


Unless the cap rises drastically, they will not be able to keep ALL of those players. However, they will be able to keep at least 1 more "Core" member with that extra cash. That is all I'm getting at. I think Hedman may be giving Doughty a run for his money as the best 2-way Dman in the NHL by next season.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jul 1 @ 1:54 PM ET
I'll wait and see what the opening day roster looks like. When it comes down to it, replacing ~30 points form Shaw isn't all that terrible. You can't replace his character, but the production isn't out of the realm of possibility. I think Tuevo's production is harder to replace on the 3rd line unless a rookie steps up.
- JRoenick97


Agreed on the points, but this team lacks guys who are versatile and can grind...and who is the new net presence on the PP?

Most concerning thing for me today is the Bowman quote on Panarin talks......

As predicted, there is ZERO loyalty there.....guy wants to be paid BIG, and Hawks may not have the room......if this escalates quickly he will be shipped off......
JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Jul 1 @ 1:55 PM ET
Agreed on the points, but this team lacks guys who are versatile and can grind...and who is the new net presence on the PP?

Most concerning thing for me today is the Bowman quote on Panarin talks......

As predicted, there is ZERO loyalty there.....guy wants to be paid BIG, and Hawks may not have the room......if this escalates quickly he will be shipped off......

- SteveRain

Yeah, that didn't seem to confident. Suddenly the trade for a solid return is sounding more appealing.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jul 1 @ 1:56 PM ET
The reason why Stamkos and Hedman signed for about $5 million less than Toews and Kane, is because they don't have to pay as much in taxes as in other States.

Take a look at the Steven Stamkos Contract Calculator that TSN posted a few days ago to give you an example of what other teams would have to pay Stamkos in order to provide him with a comparable net salary.

I don't know what the taxes are in Illinois, but I bet they are comparable to what New York residents pay, and if what is the case, they would have had to pay Stamkos $12.3 million per year in order to provide him with a comparable take home salary that he will be getting with his $8.5 million per year contract that he signed with Tampa.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/stamkos

So by the looks of it, Toews and Kane are taking home less than Stamkos and Hedman.

- WEWANTCUP


All that matters to the Blackhawks is the Cap Hit. Their Cap his is $2mil higher each, and regardless of tax rate, that $4mil would have been very valuable. Oh well, past tense. I dont want to go down this road again LOL
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jul 1 @ 1:56 PM ET
What I don't get is you cite PITT's depth - which included younger players stepping up and a 39 year old Cullen. And the Hawks are going to rely on a few young players to step up and probably look to sign a older vet - but they won't be contenders?

It takes that lucky lightening in the bottle to pan out - Cullen, Richards, Handzus - for teams up against the cap to win.

- PatShart


Beg to differ......a few young guys, not 6-7 like Bowman is touting.

What was the final top 9 in Pittsburgh?
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Jul 1 @ 1:56 PM ET
Eli schools out...they do not need his rights...just him to sign on the dotted line...
- wiz1901


Right except if Stan thinks he can play top-6 LW, then having to wait until 8/15 to find out if they can sign him means much more limited choices at that time if they aren't able to sign him.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jul 1 @ 1:57 PM ET
General Fanager ‏@generalfanager 2m2 minutes ago

Devante Smith-Pelly (#NJDevils)
2 yrs @ $1.3M cap hit per @NJDevils
2016: $1.25M
2017: $1.35M

- JRoenick97


Would have loved to take a chance on this guy at those numbers...... I'll trust the Hawk scouts though.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jul 1 @ 1:57 PM ET
Interesting. He is a left winger and sounds like he's gonna be pretty good, but the NHL isn't an easy jump from college.
- kwolf68



Funny how people need to hear it from McKenzie or Matt Barnaby before it's a legit rumor.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jul 1 @ 1:57 PM ET
Bobby Mck

BUF still looking for a goalie. Sabres were in on Zatkoff, but he went to LA.
hawkeytalkman
Joined: 01.11.2016

Jul 1 @ 1:58 PM ET
Martin Quendler ‏@MQuendler 57s58 seconds ago
michael grabner signs with @NYRangers

So they let STalberg go to sign Grabner?

ok
grinder10
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Joined: 04.04.2009

Jul 1 @ 1:58 PM ET
Yeah I don't get this one, makes no sense. If left buried in Rockford it's a $100,000 cap hit this year.
- walleyeb1


Agreed. Still a good outcome, but I must be missing some angle...
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Jul 1 @ 1:58 PM ET
Mark Lazerus
@MarkLazerus
Bowman on an extension for Panarin: "Hard to predict on that one." Notes #Blackhawks have done extensions before, during, and after seasons.

- golfbard


That doesn't sound encouraging although I'd rather get the straight dope from Stan than false hope (Saad).
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jul 1 @ 1:59 PM ET
Brian Campbell disagrees.
- RedFeather


Campbell's wife drove the decision. So that logic is a little weak.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jul 1 @ 1:59 PM ET
Juts got off the conference call....The way I interpret things the Hawks will add 1/2 veteran role players...Some young guys will make the rosters but don't expect a boatload.
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