For Landeskog's 53 pt season? GL's good and love to have him but not for the Bread Man.... Send them Krugs, 50 draft picks and a Bickell game jersey...
- Kewl1

If Panarin wants 7+ then that saves 1.5 against the Cap. You can actually help put better players around the core guys. If Panarin wants that and the lanche would do that trade I'd spin it before they could think twice. 5.5 for a legit top 6 winger is a steal considering what we're seeing today. If Panarin will sign for that great...but i bet he won't.

I was saying it a month ago. There is a reason Stan isn't making moves for a F.

Ship and Vessey.
- vabeachbear

Is Vessy worth waiting for? I can't see him lining up next to 19 and 81 this fall...

I love all three signings so far. I really like Carrick tough physical player pc is great for rockford him and Dowell do a good job down there.

Will get torn apart for this, but I'm open to moving Bread Man
- Hank3Henshaw

That may happen.. but not until next summer.

For Landeskog's 53 pt season? GL's good and love to have him but not for the Bread Man.... Send them Krugs, 50 draft picks and a Bickell game jersey...
- Kewl1

ok............

Or if he gets 7.3 then its Two first-round picks and a second- and third-round pick.

Honestly, I kinda liked the deal Bowman got for Saad, but the main reason I liked it was Dano (of course dumped for a rental). With just a bunch of picks you may not get a guy who can ever even make the NHL unless that pick is top 5.
- kwolf68

If they let Columbus sign him they would have had the third overall this year

I'd rather roll with Panik as 1LW than Vanek (God forbid). Vanek is less of an answer than Panik.

Is Vessy worth waiting for? I can't see him lining up next to 19 and 81 this fall...
- busmaster

Why wait? How can they wait? How can the Hawks get into a bidding war for this guy? If that's what Vesey wants then we have no chance at him. If he DOES want to play in Chicago and Bowman wants him, just make a move to get his negotiating rights. If he waits then now you compete with 30 teams. The entire meme that Stan is waiting for Vesey doesn't seem logical to me. If Bowman wants him he needs him to NOT goto open market where the Hawks have to compete with teams with more money to burn.

IMO I don't see a market for Crawford
- HamiltonHawk

A two time Cup winner at market rate? As long as Stan's not asking for the world.

We have to realize its not the quality of the player that determines his value to the team, but rather the quality of the return in trade coupled with the quality of his replacement.

If they let Columbus sign him they would have had the third overall this year
- HamiltonHawk

Holy crap. I hadn't thought of that. Brilliant. That kid who dropped to 4 is gonna be a stud.

I love all three signings so far. I really like Carrick tough physical player pc is great for rockford him and Dowell do a good job down there.
- vandymeer23

Don't get all excited. Carrick is Rockford bound.

Don't get all excited. Carrick is Rockford bound.
- EKB13

Most of the players vandemeer likes usually are.

Holy crap. I hadn't thought of that. Brilliant. That kid who dropped to 4 is gonna be a stud.
- kwolf68

Hindsight is 20/20. This time last year Columbus was considered a potential up and coming team.

Most of the players vandemeer likes usually are.
- kwolf68

That's the truth.

Trading Panarin would be suicide....
- MichaeLionheart

...and holding onto him might be too, in a sense.

Hindsight is 20/20. This time last year Columbus was considered a potential up and coming team.
- EKB13

Yea I agree. I'm not sweating that. Like I said I loved getting Dano. Thought he was perfect. I didn't even mind trading him, but for a pure rental (plus a #1) was tough to swallow.

I just think that the hawk's problem with signing Panarin is:
1. They don't have the cap space, and
2. There is an offer sheet threat

The problem is 95% 1, and 5% 2.
If they had the money, the offer sheet wouldnt be a threat.
If they dont have the money, who gives a crap whether he gets offer sheeted, since they dont have the money.
- Cmonalready

If he wants Taresenko money and somebody is going to give it to him, I'm not sure it isn't best to let it happen.

Not sure if they'd get as good of a deal than that. Remember, not really going to be able to take back that much salary next year either.

Is this my wife posting as 93Joe? You want a Ferrari besides the Lamborghini?
- Mr Ricochet

Nah.... '67 'Vette with the 427 and a '57 Bel Air convertible.

If Panarin wants 7+ then that saves 1.5 against the Cap. You can actually help put better players around the core guys. If Panarin wants that and the lanche would do that trade I'd spin it before they could think twice. 5.5 for a legit top 6 winger is a steal considering what we're seeing today. If Panarin will sign for that great...but i bet he won't.
- kwolf68

Doubt this ever happens but when I read Landeskog was on the market instantly I thought of Landeskog for Panarin. He would probably put up 10-15 points less than Panarin but as I posted his numbers already he checks every, every other box better than Panarin. The biggest being him skating with Toews keeps Johnny healthy for 2-3-4 more years and would allow Toews to hit his ceiling.

The Cossack can never do what Landeskog could in that regard and 7-8-9 other regards.

Why wait? How can they wait? How can the Hawks get into a bidding war for this guy? If that's what Vesey wants then we have no chance at him. If he DOES want to play in Chicago and Bowman wants him, just make a move to get his negotiating rights. If he waits then now you compete with 30 teams. The entire meme that Stan is waiting for Vesey doesn't seem logical to me. If Bowman wants him he needs him to NOT goto open market where the Hawks have to compete with teams with more money to burn.
- kwolf68

Wait, I thought that Vesey was in the same boat as Kevin Hayes. He's on an ELC and on Aug 15th he can sign with any team he wants but the terms are an ELC. I'm I wrong?

Doubt this ever happens but when I read Landeskog was on the market instantly I thought of Landeskog for Panarin. He would probably put up 10-15 points less than Panarin but as I posted his numbers already he checks every, every other box better than Panarin. The biggest being him skating with Toews keeps Johnny healthy for 2-3-4 more years and would allow Toews to hit his ceiling.

The Cossack can never do what Landeskog could in that regard and 7-8-9 other regards.
- Mr Ricochet

A two time Cup winner at market rate? As long as Stan's not asking for the world.

We have to realize its not the quality of the player that determines his value to the team, but rather the quality of the return in trade coupled with the quality of his replacement.
- busmaster

Not a knock on Crawford , I just don'tsee a lot teams in need of goalies or at least don't think they need goalies making 6 million.

Alright gents.

Enjoy your holiday break. Don't pull a JPP and blow off a thumb.

Merica............

I hope you're right! Vesey would be a huge add to the system. Even if he isn't a 1LW this year, he has high end potential and is a big body Wing that projects Top 6...just what the Hawks are lacking.
- EnzoD

...like a jimmy hayes, say?

...and holding onto him might be too, in a sense.
- EKB13

Totally agree, EK!