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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 1 @ 4:22 PM ET
Good for (frank)ing you -- do you want a gold star for that?
- AllInForFlyers


AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 1 @ 4:22 PM ET
Not trying to speak for everyone....but that is exactly what we are wondering

Hopefully he spends his time showing AHL guys how to win faceoffs

- YuenglingJagr


You can't question anything on here -- what the hell? It's not like the guy won the Selke last year, you know? He got buried.

Can that not be said just because the Flyers signed him?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 1 @ 4:25 PM ET
Buried in DZ starts.

I don't need you to tell me anything -- I watched him play. Edmonton traded him because they didn't think he could handle those minutes, and by the eye test and the metrics, he didn't

It's a team sport, I'll give you that. But he owns his portion of getting caved in, too -- he was a factor in it

- AllInForFlyers


So Gordon was "caved in" because his Corsi Rel was -3.3% with 25% OZ starts.

Meahwhile, the Hak like, Laughton and Umberger were all around that number with 50%+ OZ starts.

http://stats.hockeyanalys...ort=PCTRelTM&sortdir=DESC

Great job today by Hextall in upgrading a bottom six that got their ass handed to them in 15-16.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 1 @ 4:26 PM ET
What is the basis for that wondering? That's the real issue.
- MJL


because they signed a guy that sucks...sooooooo when ranking the real issues...#1 is that he sucks
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 1 @ 4:27 PM ET
Stephen Whyno ✔@SWhyno
Dale Weise's contract with #Flyers pays him $2.75M next season, $2.55M in 2017-18, $2.35M in '18-19 and $1.75M in '19-20. Boyd Gordon $950K.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 1 @ 4:28 PM ET
If Boyd Gordon proves that he doesnt suck I will go on record and say that he doesnt suck
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 1 @ 4:28 PM ET
Buried in DZ starts.



So Gordon was "caved in" because his Corsi Rel was -3.3% with 25% OZ starts.

Meahwhile, the Hak like, Laughton and Umberger were all around that number with 50%+ OZ starts.

http://stats.hockeyanalys...ort=PCTRelTM&sortdir=DESC

Great job today by Hextall in upgrading a bottom six that got their ass handed to them in 15-16.

- Feanor


are you trying to say hes better defensively than Laughton and/or Umberger?
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jul 1 @ 4:29 PM ET
Stephen Whyno ✔@SWhyno
Dale Weise's contract with #Flyers pays him $2.75M next season, $2.55M in 2017-18, $2.35M in '18-19 and $1.75M in '19-20. Boyd Gordon $950K.

- Feanor


Hexy knows how to make contracts.

Remember, Homer. You don't have to pay players the most in their last years when the idea is to make them tradeable.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jul 1 @ 4:33 PM ET
ryan white to phoenix 1 year 1 mill
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 1 @ 4:35 PM ET
ryan white to phoenix 1 year 1 mill
- Winning


But Tomahawk said he would be out of the league?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 1 @ 4:35 PM ET
are you trying to say hes better defensively than Laughton and/or Umberger?
- YuenglingJagr


He's better defensively than any one in the bottom 6, which is why Hextall signed him.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 1 @ 4:36 PM ET
If Boyd Gordon proves that he doesnt suck I will go on record and say that he doesnt suck
- YuenglingJagr


It doesn't have to be an extreme -- he could just be out there for the draws, not do much else

They're gonna play somebody for 82 games. Hopefully he is able to help them
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 1 @ 4:36 PM ET
But Tomahawk said he would be out of the league?
- Feanor

Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 1 @ 4:36 PM ET
Hexy knows how to make contracts.

Remember, Homer. You don't have to pay players the most in their last years when the idea is to make them tradeable.

- Mononoke


He frontloaded the contracts of Briere and Bryz and Vinny and Giroux, and had Streit's effective salary drop to $2m this year.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 1 @ 4:37 PM ET
You can protect 7 forwards. Both Laughton and Raffl could be protected.
- MJL


I hope both show this year that they are worthy of being on that list.
MikesPillBottle
Joined: 07.01.2015

Jul 1 @ 4:38 PM ET
White to Arizona for 1mil 1 year
Edit leight
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 1 @ 4:38 PM ET
ryan white to phoenix 1 year 1 mill
- Winning

White sure mis-read the market.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jul 1 @ 4:39 PM ET
Any ideas if laughton will have to be prorected?
- nails



correct me if I am wrong and I am sure someone will but first and second yr pros do not have to be protected
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 1 @ 4:39 PM ET
If Boyd Gordon proves that he doesnt suck I will go on record and say that he doesnt suck
- YuenglingJagr


He's been around a while...teams keep giving him $.... He is a serviceable guy....lets just wait and see.

Edit: not that either signing excites me.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 1 @ 4:39 PM ET
He frontloaded the contracts of Briere and Bryz and Vinny and Giroux, and had Streit's effective salary drop to $2m this year.
- Feanor


And Pronger
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jul 1 @ 4:40 PM ET
correct me if I am wrong and I am sure someone will but first and second yr pros do not have to be protected
- nastyflyergirl

that is correct.
I was wondering what the status of Laughton and Cousins will be at that point
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jul 1 @ 4:40 PM ET
I'm upset we didn't value Ryan White. Solid faceoff man even though he was a winger. One of very few tough and gritty players on this team. He was sadly also the most threatening offensive player on the 4th line.

I would have kept him. Good teammate, worked hard, took less 2 years in a row to be here.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jul 1 @ 4:41 PM ET
He frontloaded the contracts of Briere and Bryz and Vinny and Giroux, and had Streit's effective salary drop to $2m this year.
- Feanor


I was referring to your favorite son, AMac
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 1 @ 4:41 PM ET
White sure mis-read the market.
- hereticpride


He should be happy he got a deal on Day 1...I liked how he competes but I don't know why anyone would tel him he has a lot of leverage on the open market, if that was the advice he was given
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jul 1 @ 4:41 PM ET
correct me if I am wrong and I am sure someone will but first and second yr pros do not have to be protected
- nastyflyergirl

and how is time accrued calculated? does AHL time count? and if not, why not bury someone like cousins for a year so you don't have to protect him?
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