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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jul 1 @ 1:39 PM ET
Yeah, that's what I said.
- flyer_nutter



so you want to trade a kid who has scored 26 goals, has improved every year on a team that lacks scoring for a good dman who is going to be an UFA with the good chance he walks and either way will take big dollars to re-sign? I just can't do it.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 1 @ 1:39 PM ET
Killorn might be the odd man out.
- Feanor


i like his beard.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jul 1 @ 1:39 PM ET
Stewart and Matthias got less years, and less money than Wiese.
- PLindbergh31

well Weiss> Those two
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jul 1 @ 1:40 PM ET
hextall offer sheet Kucherov 9mill per
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 1 @ 1:40 PM ET
just wonder if will they be able to keep all of kucherov/palat/johnson?

I'd love one to come to Philly

- Marc D

They aren't. Expect Johnson to go.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 1 @ 1:40 PM ET
IF we did trade for Shattenkirk, would that lead to another deal with a top level D prospect being traded for an offensive forward?
- Buzzo

I think it be in our best interests to assuming it's fair value.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jul 1 @ 1:40 PM ET
bubble team?

i feel like with a few more tweaks we could be a 100 point team. think were closer to a perennial playoff threat than a bubble team

- sjk540


I can see that viewpoint.
But I think if you start inserting young d men or the goaltending falters even a little, it's bubble land.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 1 @ 1:40 PM ET
Stewart and Matthias got less years, and less money than Wiese.
- PLindbergh31

Chris Stewart hasnt been good since 'nam and Matthias literally has never been good
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 1 @ 1:40 PM ET
Stewart and Matthias got less years, and less money than Wiese.
- PLindbergh31


Because the demand wasn't as high. Three teams were after Weise.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 1 @ 1:41 PM ET
so you want to trade a kid who has scored 26 goals, has improved every year on a team that lacks scoring for a good dman who is going to be an UFA with the good chance he walks and either way will take big dollars to re-sign? I just can't do it.
- nastyflyergirl

Call me crazy.

I want nothing to do with Shattenkirk. Small, and I question his defensive game.

He wants top dman money. Let someone else give it to him.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 1 @ 1:42 PM ET
Stewart and Matthias got less years, and less money than Wiese.
- PLindbergh31



And maybe they didn't want to go to Philadelphia.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 1 @ 1:44 PM ET
Stewart and Matthias got less years, and less money than Wiese.
- PLindbergh31


See, here's the thing about today. Every time we sign or draft or trade for someone, there are some who are adamant it will be good, and some who disagree, and we fight about it.

But as always, sometimes things work out, sometimes they don't.

Mark Streit has worked out.
MDZ has worked out well.

Andrew MacDonald was in the AHL last fall and might be there again this fall.

R.J. Umberger was bought out.
Wheels was demoted, scratched and traded.
So on and so forth.

Dale Weise...I don't think he sees four years in Philadelphia. But maybe he will.

But just because some say he will, or won't, doesn't mean anyone knows today
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jul 1 @ 1:46 PM ET
I can see that viewpoint.
But I think if you start inserting young d men or the goaltending falters even a little, it's bubble land.

- nails


that is true, but look what happened when we inserted one last year. now not saying that it will happen that way, but with our coaching staff and Hexy steering the ship, i think if it does happen itll be done with the vigilence that it requires. if provy makes it or not, i think our defense will still be solid, and hopefully Hexy still has another thing or two up his sleeve to cement our top 9/bottom 6

for the first time in a while, goaltending on this team is the least of my worries. i think were safe there.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 1 @ 1:46 PM ET
See, here's the thing about today. Every time we sign or draft or trade for someone, there are some who are adamant it will be good, and some who disagree, and we fight about it.

But as always, sometimes things work out, sometimes they don't.

Mark Streit has worked out.
MDZ has worked out well.

Andrew MacDonald was in the AHL last fall and might be there again this fall.

R.J. Umberger was bought out.
Wheels was demoted, scratched and traded.
So on and so forth.

Dale Weise...I don't think he sees four years in Philadelphia. But maybe he will.

But just because some say he will, or won't, doesn't mean anyone knows today

- AllInForFlyers


I don't know which way I lean to be honest.

Just will be interesting if they decide to move Schenn because he wants 6 million instead of 5/year but are willing to throw a deal like that at Weise. I hate this time of year. (frank) you all.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 1 @ 1:48 PM ET
See, here's the thing about today. Every time we sign or draft or trade for someone, there are some who are adamant it will be good, and some who disagree, and we fight about it.

But as always, sometimes things work out, sometimes they don't.

Mark Streit has worked out.
MDZ has worked out well.

Andrew MacDonald was in the AHL last fall and might be there again this fall.

R.J. Umberger was bought out.
Wheels was demoted, scratched and traded.
So on and so forth.

Dale Weise...I don't think he sees four years in Philadelphia. But maybe he will.

But just because some say he will, or won't, doesn't mean anyone knows today

- AllInForFlyers


I'm with you. I don't mind Wiese as a player I really don't. But I'm not overpaying, or getting in a bidding war for his services with other teams. Just isn't necessary.
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Jul 1 @ 1:48 PM ET
Stewart and Matthias got less years, and less money than Wiese.
- PLindbergh31


Pretty sure Hexy called in sick today and Homer has filled in
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 1 @ 1:49 PM ET
I don't know which way I lean to be honest.

Just will be interesting if they decide to move Schenn because he wants 6 million instead of 5/year but are willing to throw a deal like that at Weise. I hate this time of year. (frank) you all.

- flyer_nutter

they will get a deal done with schenn

just don't see him leaving

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 1 @ 1:49 PM ET
Pretty sure Hexy called in sick today and Homer has filled in
- Buzzo

for 1 free agent signing?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 1 @ 1:49 PM ET
I'm with you. I don't mind Wiese as a player I really don't. But I'm not overpaying, our getting in a bidding war for his services with other teams. Just isn't necessary.
- PLindbergh31


That's exactly how I feel
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 1 @ 1:49 PM ET
Pretty sure Hexy called in sick today and Homer has filled in
- Buzzo

wait we signed backes?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 1 @ 1:50 PM ET
I'm with you. I don't mind Wiese as a player I really don't. But I'm not overpaying, our getting in a bidding war for his services with other teams. Just isn't necessary.
- PLindbergh31

The one place I do like this deal is that the salary number means he could be moved in 2years. It won't be a contract that dooms the Flyers to keep him on the team. Those are the kind of deals they need to stop.

Not sure how I feel about this one but the fourth line does need an upgrade. Just wish it was (frank)ing VDV out on his ass first.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 1 @ 1:50 PM ET
Damn. Maybe the Flyers should have just resigned Vandevelde for 3 years at 1.5 million. Then we would have no complaints
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jul 1 @ 1:51 PM ET
that is true, but look what happened when we inserted one last year. now not saying that it will happen that way, but with our coaching staff and Hexy steering the ship, i think if it does happen itll be done with the vigilence that it requires. if provy makes it or not, i think our defense will still be solid, and hopefully Hexy still has another thing or two up his sleeve to cement our top 9/bottom 6

for the first time in a while, goaltending on this team is the least of my worries. i think were safe there.

- sjk540


I think the only way you see something of substance is if he finds a way to move for a under 30 top pair D man then flip a d prospect for scoring help.
Other than that, I would like a show me contract for a former skilled guy.
Vanek, gerber. Hell, even seminar at the minimum is worth a shot
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 1 @ 1:51 PM ET
Damn. Maybe the Flyers should have just resigned Vandevelde for 3 years at 1.5 million. Then we would have no complaints
- J35Bacher

Go jump in front of a car.

A parked one, I'm not that cruel.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 1:52 PM ET
Damn. Maybe the Flyers should have just resigned Vandevelde for 3 years at 1.5 million. Then we would have no complaints
- J35Bacher


they'll complain over anything, don't be shocked
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