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J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 1 @ 1:01 PM ET
It could easily be a 3 year deal. If he remains the same player, you don't think they could move Weise with one year left on his deal if they need to? Every player, is at risk for decline. I think we have to look at what kind of player he is.
- MJL



And the Flyers are still maybe a couple years away.

A 30 year old Weise isn't a bad guy to have around. With a lot of the youth that will be hear.

Especially as guys like Bellemare and Vandevelde are moved on from.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jul 1 @ 1:01 PM ET
Yeah, we thought the same about Pronger.

- BiggE


He may have had a few good years left in him. Bergeron wears a visor anyways
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 1 @ 1:01 PM ET
Have we mentioned the Habs sign Radulov after ripping Subban's character and leadership?

GTFO.

- Mononoke

it's a grand form of satire really
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 1 @ 1:01 PM ET
Some of these contracts strike fear into the heart.

What will schenn get. Sigh.

- flyer_nutter

Spalding will get nothing and like it.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 1 @ 1:02 PM ET
Marc Dumont ‏@MarcPDumont 4m4 minutes ago
Shea Weber received an $8M bonus from the Habs today.

Welcome to Montreal!


- Marc D


That's a lot of poutine.
CaptEO
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 1 @ 1:02 PM ET
Sorry man, but don't get angry with me. I'm not the one throwing out rumors left and right that rarely ever come true.
- BiggE


Rumors coming true. Got it.
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jul 1 @ 1:02 PM ET
is anyone else wondering how the philly beat writers get their jobs with the nonsensical poop they tweet on a regular basis?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 1:02 PM ET
Do we even have any official confirmation on either the length or dollars of the Weise deal?
- BiggE


We do now
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 1 @ 1:02 PM ET
I don't care where you live. I don't doubt they were hoping that he could chip in offensively, but you don't trade for or sign a player like Weise based on offensive production as the main focus. Nor do you judge him solely on offensive production.
- MJL

His forechecking ability probably played as big (if not bigger) a role as he offensive ability.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jul 1 @ 1:02 PM ET
No. I live there. They thought he would score on the third line. That's why they got him. Quenneville wouldn't play him very much because he didn't know they system and he doesn't really trust players he hasn't had very much, and they had center issues with Kruger hurt

They got him to score, because Hossa was having a miserable season and they didn't have enough offense. He just didn't score for them, and Quenneville used him less

- AllInForFlyers


The brass didn't know how the coach was gonna use him, and they expected him to be a savior? That's just bad reasoning on the Hawks' part, then.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 1 @ 1:02 PM ET
Bill tweeted the Wiese contract is an overpayment.
Stamkos took a discount to sign with the Lightnining, Suter, and Parise took less money to sign in Minnesota.

Who are the players who took less money to sign with Philadelphia? Other than Andrew MacDonald of course.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jul 1 @ 1:03 PM ET
Eric Staal 3 years at $10.5M to Wild
- johm12


It's a pretty solid deal. I'd rather pay Staal a mil more per for a year less. Even if he's not the Staal of old, he has good underlying stats and is a very good middle 6/3rd line guy.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 1:03 PM ET
Have we mentioned the Habs sign Radulov after ripping Subban's character and leadership?

GTFO.

- Mononoke


Radulov will be donating $10M to the Children's hospital and visiting daily
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 1 @ 1:03 PM ET
Bill tweeted the Wiese contract is an overpayment.
Stamkos took a discount to sign with the Lightnining, Suter, and Parise took less money to sign in Minnesota.

Who are the players who took less money to sign with Philadelphia? Other than Andrew MacDonald of course.

- PLindbergh31

Anddddd there he is!

Still got them dark clouds hanging over ya, huh?
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jul 1 @ 1:03 PM ET
4 years 9.4 mil for Weise
MikesPillBottle
Joined: 07.01.2015

Jul 1 @ 1:04 PM ET
Eric Staal 3 years at $10.5M to Wild
- johm12


So Staal signed for about 1mil more a season, and 1 year less?

nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jul 1 @ 1:04 PM ET
Do we even have any official confirmation on either the length or dollars of the Weise deal?
- BiggE



4 yrs 9.4
johm12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IN
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jul 1 @ 1:04 PM ET
is anyone else wondering how the philly beat writers get their jobs with the nonsensical poop they tweet on a regular basis?
- sjk540


yeah not a fan of Carchidi at all...
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 1:05 PM ET
is anyone else wondering how the philly beat writers get their jobs with the nonsensical poop they tweet on a regular basis?
- sjk540


It's a requirement when you work for the Daily News or Inquirer
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 1 @ 1:05 PM ET
Hexy seemed pretty adamant about waiting a week. He bit at noon. At least it was a dainty bite and not an Old Country Buffet chow down like all the other moronic GMs.
- Mononoke


Hexy has his rules.

And his exceptions to those rules.
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jul 1 @ 1:06 PM ET
It's a requirement when you work for the Daily News or Inquirer
- PhillySportsGuy


its mind bottling
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 1 @ 1:06 PM ET
Not a great signing, not a terrible signing...Weise is tradeable at $2.35mm, worse comes to worst
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jul 1 @ 1:06 PM ET
Bill tweeted the Wiese contract is an overpayment.
Stamkos took a discount to sign with the Lightnining, Suter, and Parise took less money to sign in Minnesota.

Who are the players who took less money to sign with Philadelphia? Other than Andrew MacDonald of course.

- PLindbergh31


I was worried because your first post on the Weise signing didnt seem like it directly came from a Sith lord but all is now right in HB land as this is more normal.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 1 @ 1:06 PM ET
I don't care where you live. I don't doubt they were hoping that he could chip in offensively, but you don't trade for or sign a player like Weise based on offensive production as the main focus. Nor do you judge him solely on offensive production.
- MJL


They traded for him thinking he was a late bloomer who would score, based off his production in the top 6. Not at at Kane rate, a Hossa rate. But they acquired him to contribute offensively, and he simply didn't.

Ladd didn't either, at the expected rate. But they acquired both of them to score and provide physical presence and size.

It's ok to say that Weise didn't get the job done in Chciago. He overachieved in MTL, didn't do much of anything in Chicago. Both of those statements are true
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jul 1 @ 1:06 PM ET
yeah not a fan of Carchidi at all...
- johm12


hes the worst, pannaccio aint far behind
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