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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 1 @ 12:23 PM ET
Backes 5 yrs
- nastyflyergirl


After watching him play dozens of games each year for the last six years, all I can say is WOW
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jul 1 @ 12:23 PM ET
Exactly. Sooo many people female doged about the 4th line, we go out and upgrade the 4th line and people are female doging about upgrading the 4th line.
- jak521


I'm waiting for the final word on the deal; PLind should chime in shortly.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 1 @ 12:24 PM ET


From BSH, Ryan White vs Dale Weise comparison
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jul 1 @ 12:24 PM ET
Staal 3 years Minny 3.5 M
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 1 @ 12:24 PM ET
the flyers are no better or worse with weise.....he doesn't change their record at all.
- rinaldo

rebound yr from Jake, full yr with ghost, hopefully provolone and...

2nd year with the coach, so no growing pains with a new system

that is what improves their record
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 1 @ 12:24 PM ET
Or maybe they dont want to throw their prospects into a role they dont see them fit to play in.

Who do you think on LHV right now could come up and offer what Weise offers?

- jak521


Might be 3rd line.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 1 @ 12:24 PM ET
No one.

Hopefully a kid with wheels like Leier can beat out VDV and the 4th line could be:

Leier-PEB-Weiss

not only is that an upgrade from last year's 4th, but Leier has been an excellent PKer at every level as well.

- BiggE



And signing Weise doesn't mean they are done.

Could still move Read.

Hell they could still make a play for Landeskog like I rad somewhere.

It's just day 1
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 12:25 PM ET


From BSH, Ryan White vs Dale Weise comparison

- Tomahawk


He's obviously an upgrade, but that term
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 1 @ 12:25 PM ET
According to EK, Lucic will mentor young players


well, I guess someone needs to show the kids how to act like a whiny douchebag.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 12:25 PM ET
Staal 3 years Minny 3.5 M
- arichardson22


Wasted. Could have been a good fit for a lot of these dumbass teams.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 1 @ 12:26 PM ET
According to EK, Lucic will mentor young players


well, I guess someone needs to show the kids how to act like a whiny douchebag.

- BiggE

Who? The skill players?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 1 @ 12:26 PM ET
Might be 3rd line.
- landros 2

Not likely.. He is pretty much White's replacement.

As of now: (just a rough draft)
Raffl-G-Voracek
Schenn-Couts-Simmer
Laughton-Cousins-Read
VDV-Peb-Weise
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 1 @ 12:26 PM ET
So I'm assuming Radulov is the new locker room presence now that Subban is gone?
- Pelle31Forever

Gotta loves those moves in concert.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 1 @ 12:26 PM ET


From BSH, Ryan White vs Dale Weise comparison

- Tomahawk


I don't think White was playing much center, was he? I thought PEB centered that 4th line?

And I don't doubt Weise is an upgrade. I just not enamored with giving him 4 years.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jul 1 @ 12:26 PM ET
According to EK, Lucic will mentor young players


well, I guess someone needs to show the kids how to act like a whiny douchebag.

- BiggE


His form for the sack tap is unbelievable. One could argue it's better than Draymond Green's sack tap(s)
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 1 @ 12:27 PM ET
He's obviously an upgrade, but that term
- PhillySportsGuy

The term really isnt a problem. its under 2.5 mil, and he is a guy that can be moved. Hell, even if he isnt moved, and he plays the way he has the past few seasons, its a solid deal.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 1 @ 12:27 PM ET
He's obviously an upgrade, but that term
- PhillySportsGuy


All depends on where the cap is in a couple of years. If, by 18-19, it's approaching 80 million, Weiss' cap number really isn't an issue.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jul 1 @ 12:28 PM ET
Or maybe they dont want to throw their prospects into a role they dont see them fit to play in.

Who do you think on LHV right now could come up and offer what Weise offers?

- jak521

while not a prospect would have no issue with colin macdonald on that 4th line.

leier has 2 years in the ahl under his belt. he should get a long look. maybe a guy like martel can add some speed that everyone drools about. my plan would have been to wait until later to find a weise type.

flyers are ways away from cup contending just don't see the need for this type of move. they get read of read this summer then no issue.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 1 @ 12:28 PM ET
He's obviously an upgrade, but that term
- PhillySportsGuy



The 4th year is to keep cap down.

Also he could be moved at TDL if needed in future. Teams love those type of players for the playoffs.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 1 @ 12:28 PM ET
So I'm assuming Radulov is the new locker room presence now that Subban is gone?
- Pelle31Forever


If Therrien had issues with PK, wait till he gets a load of Radulov.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 12:29 PM ET
The term really isnt a problem. its under 2.5 mil, and he is a guy that can be moved. Hell, even if he isnt moved, and he plays the way he has the past few seasons, its a solid deal.
- jak521


He's signing a FA deal. This is likely his best offer. Why would another team trade for him unless he significantly improves next season? If another team liked him so much, they could sign him to a bigger deal now
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 12:29 PM ET
The term really isnt a problem. its under 2.5 mil, and he is a guy that can be moved. Hell, even if he isnt moved, and he plays the way he has the past few seasons, its a solid deal.
- jak521



I have zero concerns about the term. He's 28 years old.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 1 @ 12:29 PM ET
All depends on where the cap is in a couple of years. If, by 18-19, it's approaching 80 million, Weiss' cap number really isn't an issue.
- BiggE


It's not gonna get to 80, IMO

It's gonna settle right around here, if I had to guess
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 1 @ 12:29 PM ET
while not a prospect would have no issue with colin macdonald on that 4th line.

leier has 2 years in the ahl under his belt. he should get a long look. maybe a guy like martel can add some speed that everyone drools about. my plan would have been to wait until later to find a weise type.

flyers are ways away from cup contending just don't see the need for this type of move. they get read of read this summer then no issue.

- rinaldo


Weiss is a much better player than CMac. There is a reason that a guy like CMac is in the minors in a 30 team league. He's just not that good.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 12:29 PM ET
All depends on where the cap is in a couple of years. If, by 18-19, it's approaching 80 million, Weiss' cap number really isn't an issue.
- BiggE


If he stinks by then, it may be a small issue
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