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jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 1 @ 12:14 PM ET
what does he do to help this team where they are at right now? in 3 years?

unless one of read or raffle are being moved you don't need weise for 4 years.

- rinaldo

In order to be successful in todays NHL you need to have 4 lines you can count on. He is a definite upgrade to the 4th line, and can play on the third line as well. He is a very good forechecker, can score 10-15 goals, put up 25+ points and play a hard working honest game.

everyone who wants to bring up Leier to play on the 4th line is off their rocker.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 1 @ 12:14 PM ET
It's the dollars that bother me -- Weise isn't the worst they could do, but that salary is a July 1 Special
- AllInForFlyers


Yeah, it's not great. Hopefully he gets nabbed in expansion lol.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jul 1 @ 12:14 PM ET
Now signing an aging Ladd to a 7 year deal, that's a joke.
- BiggE

as is signing weise for 4 years
flyerfan28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CA
Joined: 02.06.2012

Jul 1 @ 12:15 PM ET
Eric Staal startng price is 4yrs 6 mil per
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jul 1 @ 12:15 PM ET
Backes one year deal in Boston?

EDIT: Mckenzie changed it to terms TBA
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 1 @ 12:15 PM ET
I can't imagine what Ryan White must have been asking for in order for Hextall to feel compelled to give Weise 4/10mil.
- johndewar


It's only a guess, but I'm thinking he was demanding something like 4 years and 8 million and Hexy figured for a couple hundred grand more, may as well sign an upgrade.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 12:15 PM ET
Franz Neilsen to Detroit

would have helped here

- Marc D


Not at that term
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 1 @ 12:15 PM ET
In order to be successful in todays NHL you need to have 4 lines you can count on. He is a definite upgrade to the 4th line, and can play on the third line as well. He is a very good forechecker, can score 10-15 goals, put up 25+ points and play a hard working honest game.

everyone who wants to bring up Leier to play on the 4th line is off their rocker.

- jak521

wiese is a solid bottom six guy, the 4th yr is a lot but they badly needed an upgrade and they got one

hopefully someone comes up and plays well and makes VDV the 13th guy

rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jul 1 @ 12:15 PM ET
In order to be successful in todays NHL you need to have 4 lines you can count on. He is a definite upgrade to the 4th line, and can play on the third line as well. He is a very good forechecker, can score 10-15 goals, put up 25+ points and play a hard working honest game.

everyone who wants to bring up Leier to play on the 4th line is off their rocker.

- jak521

you dont pay 4th line guys over 2mm imo.

they must not like what they have coming up at LV.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 1 @ 12:16 PM ET
Weise is better at $2mm than White at $1.5mm
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 1 @ 12:16 PM ET
Eric Staal startng price is 4yrs 6 mil per
- flyerfan28


Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 1 @ 12:16 PM ET
Not at that term
- PhillySportsGuy

he'll be 38 at the end of the deal, so that is pretty crazy
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 1 @ 12:16 PM ET
In order to be successful in todays NHL you need to have 4 lines you can count on. He is a definite upgrade to the 4th line, and can play on the third line as well. He is a very good forechecker, can score 10-15 goals, put up 25+ points and play a hard working honest game.

everyone who wants to bring up Leier to play on the 4th line is off their rocker.

- jak521


Does Weise also kill penalties?

I am ok with Weise.

Upgrades the bottom 6 and doesn't mean hextall is done. Once all the big names are off the market teams that missed on something might be willing to deal for a need like a defenseman in Streit or god help us MacDonald
black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bumfuck, NJ
Joined: 01.10.2015

Jul 1 @ 12:16 PM ET
I look forward to his future buyout in 2 years.
- johndewar

nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jul 1 @ 12:16 PM ET
so what? not following you? what makes you think an expansion team wants those guys for?
- rinaldo


well from what I see the Flyers are in pretty good shape as far as who has to be exposed and every team loses one player so unless Vegas wants to select a minor leaguer who is exposed, the likes of read and AMAC has to be selected

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 1 @ 12:16 PM ET
Weise is better at $2mm than White at $1.5mm
- Jsaquella


Agreed.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 1 @ 12:17 PM ET
Now signing an aging Ladd to a 7 year deal, that's a joke.
- BiggE



Other the Okposo or Stamkos....I wasn't excited about a semi rebuilding Flyers signing any of the UFA s.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 1 @ 12:17 PM ET
Weise is better at $2mm than White at $1.5mm
- Jsaquella

agree

nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jul 1 @ 12:17 PM ET
Weise is better at $2mm than White at $1.5mm
- Jsaquella


agree I don't get the outrage honestly
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 1 @ 12:17 PM ET
Re Weiss, from THN

SCOUTING REPORT
Assets: Has good size and plays the game with honest effort and sound work ethic. Excels as a forechecker. Will also drop the gloves if the situation warrants it. Can score goals in bunches.
Flaws: Doesn't have natural ability, so points are always the result of maximum effort--even at lower levels. Isn't very useful if he's not hitting early and often. Is inconsistent on offense.
Career Potential: Solid crash-and-bang winger.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 1 @ 12:17 PM ET
wiese is a solid bottom six guy, the 4th yr is a lot but they badly needed an upgrade and they got one

hopefully someone comes up and plays well and makes VDV the 13th guy

- Marc D



He is also one of those guys teams love to trade for at TDL. If Flyers are terrible I don't think they would hesitate to move him.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jul 1 @ 12:17 PM ET
Weise is better at $2mm than White at $1.5mm
- Jsaquella

then you walk away from both.....wait it out to find that vet who didn't sign; they will be there
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 12:18 PM ET
he'll be 38 at the end of the deal, so that is pretty crazy
- Marc D


The term on most of these deals is brutal. It's especially bad for teams that aren't even contenders.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jul 1 @ 12:18 PM ET
Backes 5 yrs
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jul 1 @ 12:18 PM ET
well from what I see the Flyers are in pretty good shape as far as who has to be exposed and every team loses one player so unless Vegas wants to select a minor leaguer who is exposed, the likes of read and AMAC has to be selected
- nastyflyergirl

if you say so
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