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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 1 @ 1:11 PM ET
Suter and Parise got $100m guaranteed.
- Feanor


Any GM's offer them more?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 1:11 PM ET
Do yourself a favor, unfollow them all. Doing so really freshens up your timeline.
- Scoob


I might do that. I follow them because they'll announce things once in a while, but they never have any good information about the team. To be honest, they have more disinformation than actual information.
johm12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IN
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jul 1 @ 1:12 PM ET
Calling it.

Dale Weise will score 15 or more goals and 35 pts.

Max Talbot 2011-12 season stats

- J35Bacher


One can only hope
MikesPillBottle
Joined: 07.01.2015

Jul 1 @ 1:12 PM ET
Decided to finally join today after reading Bill's posts for a while. Best writer on here without a doubt.

What's the feelings on taking chances on signing Vanek and Grabner to show me deals, if the prices are right? I'm just imagining putting them on a line with Raffl and forming an Austrian trio

But it may just be the fact that my family is from there clouding my thoughts

- KimmoTherapy


I dunno man. I doubt it, but I would not mind seeing Grabner.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 1 @ 1:12 PM ET
Not a great signing, not a terrible signing...Weise is tradeable at $2.35mm, worse comes to worst
- Jsaquella

I don't think it is a terrible signing. And I am NOT signalling you out here as many have said the same thing but the idea that 'he is tradeable' idea is absolute BS. If he is playing poor enough to trade him he will have no value (probably negative value) and if he is playing well enough then why trade him. It's not a sound 'silver-lining' or justifiable excuse. Sorry, I don't like it and find it worthless.

Just sayen.

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 1 @ 1:13 PM ET
Which is kind of the point with a guy like that. Hey, as long as he takes fewer stupid penalties than White did, I'm cool with the signing.
- Scoob


I looked up Weise's PIM numbers and they are low....24 PIMs in 71 games last year. 34 PIMs the year before.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 1 @ 1:13 PM ET
Radulov will be neck deep in wussy and booze 2 hours before game time. Every game.
- Mononoke


sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jul 1 @ 1:13 PM ET
I dunno man. I doubt it, but I would not mind seeing Grabner.
- MikesPillBottle


speedster right there, good PKer, solid shootout guy. would love him in fact. maybe takes VDV's spot.

Grabner - PEB - Weise
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 1 @ 1:13 PM ET
I don't think Hextall has given any trade protection in a contract yet.

If some of his AAVs and term seem high, that could be part of it.
MikesPillBottle
Joined: 07.01.2015

Jul 1 @ 1:13 PM ET
I don't think it is a terrible signing. And I am NOT signalling you out here as many have said the same thing but the idea that 'he is tradeable' idea is absolute BS. If he is playing poor enough to trade him he will have no value (probably negative value) and if he is playing well enough then why trade him. It's not a sound 'silver-lining' or justifiable excuse. Sorry, I don't like it and find it worthless.

Just sayen.

- coffee junkie


He's about as tradable as AMac and Streit.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 1:13 PM ET
Any GM's offer them more?
- PLindbergh31


Players have routinely chosen the Flyers in free agency and they have a very strong reputation around the league. Not sure what you're getting at here.
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jul 1 @ 1:13 PM ET
I looked up Weise's PIM numbers and they are low....24 PIMs in 71 games last year. 34 PIMs the year before.
- johndewar


lady byng-esque
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jul 1 @ 1:13 PM ET
Flyers signed Andy Miele 1 year one way
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 1 @ 1:14 PM ET
The Mayor John Hoven ‏@mayorNHL 4m4 minutes ago
Former Hobey Baker award winner Andy Miele has agreed to 1 year, one-way deal with #Flyers
MikesPillBottle
Joined: 07.01.2015

Jul 1 @ 1:14 PM ET
lady byng-esque
- sjk540


Montreal doesn't get called for poop like the Flyers do, however.

I expect his PIM to be just shy of 100.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jul 1 @ 1:14 PM ET
Bill tweeted the Wiese contract is an overpayment.
Stamkos took a discount to sign with the Lightnining, Suter, and Parise took less money to sign in Minnesota.

Who are the players who took less money to sign with Philadelphia? Other than Andrew MacDonald of course.

- PLindbergh31



reality is until the Flyers are a real contender again they will lose out on free agents unless they over pay or over term the contracts. Guys like Perron who take what seems to be a decent contract will choose the better teams.

anyone know anything about former Hobey Baker award winner Andy Mele the Flyers signed?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 1 @ 1:15 PM ET
its like a car accident unfolding. i feel bad about it, yet cant look away
- sjk540


I thought so, too, but unfollowed them all over a year ago and it's been great.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 1 @ 1:15 PM ET
I bet Bobby Ryan would take less money to play here.

DID YOU KNOW HE WAS FROM CHERRY HILL, NEW JERSEY?

- johndewar


lol!
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 1 @ 1:15 PM ET
Bill tweeted the Wiese contract is an overpayment.
Stamkos took a discount to sign with the Lightnining, Suter, and Parise took less money to sign in Minnesota.

Who are the players who took less money to sign with Philadelphia? Other than Andrew MacDonald of course.

- PLindbergh31


What are conversations like between you and your wife?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 1:16 PM ET
reality is until the Flyers are a real contender again they will lose out on free agents unless they over pay or over term the contracts. Guys like Perron who take what seems to be a decent contract will choose the better teams.

anyone know anything about former Hobey Baker award winner Andy Mele the Flyers signed?

- nastyflyergirl


Likely top line AHL guy
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 1 @ 1:16 PM ET
I don't think it is a terrible signing. And I am NOT signalling you out here as many have said the same thing but the idea that 'he is tradeable' idea is absolute BS. If he is playing poor enough to trade him he will have no value (probably negative value) and if he is playing well enough then why trade him. It's not a sound 'silver-lining' or justifiable excuse. Sorry, I don't like it and find it worthless.

Just sayen.

- coffee junkie



He could be playing well and the Flyers might not be a good shape in the standings. You would have to weigh the offer against what Weise gives you.

It's not an excuse either. I don't think the deal is bad at all. he upgrades the bottom 6. He brings an identity.

Also until the season starts you can't view this move wholly. I still think more moves will be mad to reshape the roster.
MikesPillBottle
Joined: 07.01.2015

Jul 1 @ 1:16 PM ET
What are conversations like between you and your wife?
- YuenglingJagr


"Take this, and that! Wench!"
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 1 @ 1:17 PM ET
I might do that. I follow them because they'll announce things once in a while, but they never have any good information about the team. To be honest, they have more disinformation than actual information.
- PhillySportsGuy



So do other better sources. Believe me, you won't miss anything good by dropping them.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 1 @ 1:17 PM ET
We still really could use a 3/4 line center cheap.

Like Marchessault.

- Mononoke


there can be only one
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 1 @ 1:17 PM ET
ryan white said he'd stay here for a discount

and see where that got him!


- Marc D


Haha! True. I'm not a fan of overpaying to replace third pairing dmen, and 4th liners. Doesn't make much sense. But there isn't any money to bring in a real difference maker, so it is what it is.
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