Marc D
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Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees Joined: 03.28.2008
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According to EK, Lucic will mentor young players
well, I guess someone needs to show the kids how to act like a whiny douchebag. - BiggE
he can teach them some of his famous one liners
"do you know who I am" works well with police I'm told |
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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: South Jersey, NJ Joined: 01.16.2009
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He's signing a FA deal. This is likely his best offer. Why would another team trade for him unless he significantly improves next season? If another team liked him so much, they could sign him to a bigger deal now - PhillySportsGuy
At that money and term, I'd prefer to think of him as a replacement for Matt Read than for Ryan White. |
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johm12
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: IN Joined: 07.01.2016
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No one.
Hopefully a kid with wheels like Leier can beat out VDV and the 4th line could be:
Leier-PEB-Weiss
not only is that an upgrade from last year's 4th, but Leier has been an excellent PKer at every level as well. - BiggE
I would love to see Leier make the team this season. |
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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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jak521
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Buckle Up. Joined: 02.19.2008
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He's signing a FA deal. This is likely his best offer. Why would another team trade for him unless he significantly improves next season? If another team liked him so much, they could sign him to a bigger deal now - PhillySportsGuy
You could say that about literally ANY FA.
Three teams wanted him. Flyers got him. Doesnt mean that nobody will ever inquire about him every again. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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He's signing a FA deal. This is likely his best offer. Why would another team trade for him unless he significantly improves next season? If another team liked him so much, they could sign him to a bigger deal now - PhillySportsGuy
That's speculation. He could've very well had similar offers, but went with the team that he thought was the best fit. Also doesn't consider that teams needs change over time. |
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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He's obviously an upgrade, but that term - PhillySportsGuy
Exactly. Productive. But He's not a good possession player....but he did quite well this year, especially in Chicago on that front. He could be a guy that fits our system very well with forechecking and grinding. It's possible he clicks. He kind of a 3/4 tweener, so not really a true 4th guy. The cap hit isn't bad. 4 years is ehhhh but he's not old either. He's still in his peak years for it. So it's a little less bad than initially.
Not thrilled. Not devastated. Just...eh? |
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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It's not gonna get to 80, IMO
It's gonna settle right around here, if I had to guess - AllInForFlyers
Who knows, a couple months ago, many folks were convinced that it was going down next season.
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mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: downingtown, PA Joined: 06.25.2009
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From BSH, Ryan White vs Dale Weise comparison - Tomahawk
ok I'm good with this,wasn't crazy about white....it is a nice inexpensive upgrade |
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jak521
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Buckle Up. Joined: 02.19.2008
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Exactly. Productive. But He's not a good possession player....but he did quite well this year, especially in Chicago on that front. He could be a guy that fits our system very well with forechecking and grinding. It's possible he clicks. He kind of a 3/4 tweener, so not really a true 4th guy. The cap hit isn't bad. 4 years is ehhhh but he's not old either. He's still in his peak years for it. So it's a little less bad than initially.
Not thrilled. Not devastated. Just...eh? - Mononoke
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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If he stinks by then, it may be a small issue - PhillySportsGuy
Honestly, I wouldn't lose much sleep over it.
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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he can teach them some of his famous one liners
"do you know who I am" works well with police I'm told - Marc D
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Weiss is a much better player than CMac. There is a reason that a guy like CMac is in the minors in a 30 team league. He's just not that good. - BiggE
didn't say he wasn't a better player. bottom pair d and 4th line you need to have value and not overpay....PEB value on the 4th line.
guys like weise shouldn't get 2.5 per year imo.. |
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arichardson22
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Location: Philly, PA Joined: 06.10.2013
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Has it been officially announced at all? remember , last year we signed Cleary too until he resigned with DET. I'm not doubting it's official but never know? |
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CaptEO
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Joined: 09.15.2005
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jak521
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Buckle Up. Joined: 02.19.2008
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didn't say he wasn't a better player. bottom pair d and 4th line you need to have value and not overpay....PEB value on the 4th line.
guys like weise shouldn't get 2.5 per year imo.. - rinaldo
The dude is a furious forechecker, and has put up nearly 30 points two years in a row...
What you gonna give a guy like that? 1.25? |
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J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 04.03.2014
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We are complaining about Weise, 27, on a 4 year deal.
We could have had Neilsen, 32, on a 6 year deal.
Backes, 32, year years.
Do people see some of these deals?
Give it time. Weise won't be the only move Hextall makes. |
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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At least we didn't double Weise's salary, same years, for an older Brouwer who is buoyed up by top 6 usage. |
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tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: South Jersey Joined: 11.28.2007
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Has it been officially announced at all? remember , last year we signed Cleary too until he resigned with DET. I'm not doubting it's official but never know? - arichardson22
Other than MDZ tweeting , "Welcome to the Flyers"...no.
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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That was a Kevin Allen source - CaptEO
Hmm, you may want to think about upgrading your sources.
Just sayin.....
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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ Joined: 04.08.2012
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At that money and term, I'd prefer to think of him as a replacement for Matt Read than for Ryan White. - johndewar
Which he's not |
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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: South Jersey, NJ Joined: 01.16.2009
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We are complaining about Weise, 27, on a 4 year deal.
We could have had Neilsen, 32, on a 6 year deal.
Backes, 32, year years.
Do people see some of these deals?
Give it time. Weise won't be the only move Hextall makes. - J35Bacher
In the grand scheme of things, you're not wrong.
It's more the philosophy of giving an acknowledged Bottom 6 guy that much term. |
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Tomahawk
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Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi. Joined: 02.04.2009
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ok I'm good with this,wasn't crazy about white....it is a nice inexpensive upgrade - mydoglicks
White isn't really an NHL player... he's below-replacement in most respects.
Weise is a borderline 3rd-liner. |
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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: South Jersey, NJ Joined: 01.16.2009
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Which he's not - PhillySportsGuy
I agree.
If Weise could be plugged into that spot, I'd probably feel differently about this deal, but I admit the 4 years would bug me a bit. |
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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ Joined: 04.08.2012
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You could say that about literally ANY FA.
Three teams wanted him. Flyers got him. Doesnt mean that nobody will ever inquire about him every again. - jak521
That's one of the reasons why FA is risky.
Look, things could workout fine, but why take a risk like this for a 4th liner? These guys are the most replaceable commodities in the sport. |
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