I thought Geno was getting traded...
- BeefCoon

Its a nice thought but never gonna happen. We really don't need him. Biggest turning point of the season was his injury.

Dude you people literally comprehend nothing. I said he's tough and fights. I didn't say hes Nate Diaz on ice. Try reading then thinking before responding. Not to mention hes always fighting people that are taller and heavier than him.
- Grinder47

So a guy that repeatedly gets his ass kicked is tough? Some might think it's dumb to always fight taller and heavier guys. Which is my narrative for Downie... One of the dumbest players I've ever seen.

Just a random thought, anyway. Who says you can't autoprotect 2 goalies? It just says if you have a NMC you have to be autoprotected. The rfa thing is the only one I can think of blocking this in principal if it is true. It may mess up the cap, but couldn't they say they are if they are both auto-protected, we will unprotect MAF? In terms of the cap, they get rid of one (like MAF) on their terms, not the leagues.
- PensFan1962

It would violate the spirit of the expansion draft and the league has said their can be penalties for violating conditions of the expansion draft. Giving a 2nd goalie a NMC after the rules of the expansion draft were given to the teams would be a direct challenge of the expansion draft rules. I think because of union rules we would be allowed to protect both goalies. However, since we knowingly created a situation that violated the expansion draft rules the league could hand punishment down on the Penguins. They would likely:
A) Give us team specific expansion draft rules...ie maybe we are only allowed to protect 4 forwards and 2 defenseman.

B) Confiscate draft picks.

Knowingly violating expansion draft rules would basically put us at the mercy of Bettman. He could punish us however he felt like and we would be exposed in a way that could be far worse than even losing matt murray to expansion.


Besides its a stupid idea. We have to move one goalie that summer and have a couple weeks between playoffs and expansion. We can't afford both; so their would be no reason to violate expansion draft rules and put ourselves at Bettman's mercy.

Its a nice thought but never gonna happen. We really don't need him. Biggest turning point of the season was his injury.
- Grinder47

I'm not really for or against just think it's funny how the rumor just pops up out of no where and then slinks away like it never was....
plus I was tired of reading about a single play that ended up not hindering the Pens from hoisting the cup. At this point who gives a rats ass

So a guy that repeatedly gets his ass kicked is tough? Some might think it's dumb to always fight taller and heavier guys. Which is my narrative for Downie... One of the dumbest players I've ever seen.
- madmike71

I'd say most of his fights are a draw, unless he actually is fighting in his weight class then he mostly wins. Not to mention he is good at hockey. But I know calling people like Downie dumb makes you feel better about your own life so keep doing it.

FWIW I really like the Radulov signing for the Canadians. I also think it is low risks.

He's arguable the most talented top 6 UFA signing this year. I know he has character concerns, but I guess the GM ran it through weber who played with him and he said it was just maturity at the time.

What I really like about it is its low risks. Find me another UFA guy to sign for 5.75 with his potential. If you have cash to spend its better to sign a guy for 1 year then take out a term contract on ladd or lucic who could be horrible on the back end of the deals. If Raduluv becomes a problem simply waive him and eat his salary. They have no where else to spend money and its only a 1 year deal. If you don't spend cap space it just goes unused.

We very well could land a 3rd rd pick for botteril to Vegas. Which will be like 61st overall maybe.

Or did they do away with that rule?

FWIW I really like the Radulov signing for the Canadians. I also think it is low risks.

He's arguable the most talented top 6 UFA signing this year. I know he has character concerns, but I guess the GM ran it through weber who played with him and he said it was just maturity at the time.

What I really like about it is its low risks. Find me another UFA guy to sign for 5.75 with his potential. If you have cash to spend its better to sign a guy for 1 year then take out a term contract on ladd or lucic who could be horrible on the back end of the deals. If Raduluv becomes a problem simply waive him and eat his salary. They have no where else to spend money and its only a 1 year deal. If you don't spend cap space it just goes unused.
- sditulli

He might be very talented, but he is a major risk. A lot of BS involved with him. So, they get rid of a guy that didn't see eye to eye with the HC, but they sign this clown?

He might be very talented, but he is a major risk. A lot of BS involved with him. So, they get rid of a guy that didn't see eye to eye with the HC, but they sign this clown?
- Oneonta Penguin

I'm not defending the subban move.

Define risks? Raduluv only risks is 5.7 million of owner profit. It's a 1 year deal. They didn't have another way to spend the cap. If he's a cancer cut him.

Fwiw every player is a "risks". Stamkos might have new blood clots. Letang might get another concussion that ends his career. This risks is only owners profit. Seems small compared to giving out term to Ladd that might use cap space u need elsewhere when he's on decline towards the end of the contract.

Or did they do away with that rule?
- Brownsoldier

Its gone now

Yep, nothing to shoot at, at all here, passing the much better option. Like I said, it was a layup and he blew it. They teach you to shoot that every time, even at the basic level of hockey.
- Thorny

For sure Kunitz should have shot. But I'm curious, if it was Malkin that made that extra pass and Kunitz didn't bury it would people be talking about Malkins extra pass or that Kunitz has lost his hands ?

I'm not defending the subban move.

Define risks? Raduluv only risks is 5.7 million of owner profit. It's a 1 year deal. They didn't have another way to spend the cap. If he's a cancer cut him.

Fwiw every player is a "risks". Stamkos might have new blood clots. Letang might get another concussion that ends his career. This risks is only owners profit. Seems small compared to giving out term to Ladd that might use cap space u need elsewhere when he's on decline towards the end of the contract.
- sditulli

I don't think every player is a risk, but I get what you are saying. There are injury risks and then there are Evander Kane/Radulov risks. Ladd contract was stupidity.

Radulov brings a lot of BS to the table. He isn't worth what he brings IMO. He screams cancer. I wouldn't trust him. He has a resume that lacks trust.

Well my list of obtainable ufas are down a lot. My have to reattach my list. Maybe overnight GMJR will trade kuni for a rfas rights, Fehr for picks or flower for picks and prospects and sign Enroth...


Here's to hoping

For sure Kunitz should have shot. But I'm curious, if it was Malkin that made that extra pass and Kunitz didn't bury it would people be talking about Malkins extra pass or that Kunitz has lost his hands ?
- willi

No we would be talking about how kuni didn't bury it! Why bc he is losing his skill and speed!!

Cmon get with it

I don't think every player is a risk, but I get what you are saying. There are injury risks and then there are Evander Kane/Radulov risks. Ladd contract was stupidity.

Radulov brings a lot of BS to the table. He isn't worth what he brings IMO. He screams cancer. I wouldn't trust him. He has a resume that lacks trust.
- Oneonta Penguin

Still he's almost zero risks. Can just cut him. IMO best Ufa signing. It's a free asset. Don't have to give up assets in a trade or sacrifice future cap room by giving term. Only thing better than a signing like this is a Panarin/vesey type signing

I'm not defending the subban move.

Define risks? Raduluv only risks is 5.7 million of owner profit. It's a 1 year deal. They didn't have another way to spend the cap. If he's a cancer cut him.

Fwiw every player is a "risks". Stamkos might have new blood clots. Letang might get another concussion that ends his career. This risks is only owners profit. Seems small compared to giving out term to Ladd that might use cap space u need elsewhere when he's on decline towards the end of the contract.
- sditulli

Its amazing. The same GM that brought in Semin even though he had character issues and failed and they had to buy him out said he who has a worse reputation than Semin? Lets go get him and give him close to the same pay that Okposo will get next year!

Still he's almost zero risks. Can just cut him. IMO best Ufa signing. It's a free asset. Don't have to give up assets in a trade or sacrifice future cap room by giving term. Only thing better than a signing like this is a Panarin/vesey type signing
- sditulli

How exactly do you cut him? This isn't the NFL. Pens would have done that to Scuds if you can just cut players.

How exactly do you cut him? This isn't the NFL. Pens would have done that to Scuds if you can just cut players.
- sammy87

That is my big question. They would still be on the hook for that 5.7 million, albeit for one year. Term isn't a risk, but all the others tuff he brings is to me.

Still he's almost zero risks. Can just cut him. IMO best Ufa signing. It's a free asset. Don't have to give up assets in a trade or sacrifice future cap room by giving term. Only thing better than a signing like this is a Panarin/vesey type signing
- sditulli

Cancers can't be best ufa signing.

I don't think every player is a risk, but I get what you are saying. There are injury risks and then there are Evander Kane/Radulov risks. Ladd contract was stupidity.

Radulov brings a lot of BS to the table. He isn't worth what he brings IMO. He screams cancer. I wouldn't trust him. He has a resume that lacks trust.
- Oneonta Penguin

But when you're Montreal and you struggle to score goals and you're probably not going to make the playoffs unless you figure out how to score goals, why wouldn't you take a risk on one of the KHL's most prolific scorer of all time? I don't think this is a good marriage by the parties involved, but I also don't think the cost/benefit analysis on Montreal's part was out of whack.

But when you're Montreal and you struggle to score goals and you're probably not going to make the playoffs unless you figure out how to score goals, why wouldn't you take a risk on one of the KHL's most prolific scorer of all time? I don't think this is a good marriage by the parties involved, but I also don't think the cost/benefit analysis on Montreal's part was out of whack.
- Victoro311

I give it to Halloween before the marriage of Rad and Therrien files for a divorce.

But when you're Montreal and you struggle to score goals and you're probably not going to make the playoffs unless you figure out how to score goals, why wouldn't you take a risk on one of the KHL's most prolific scorer of all time? I don't think this is a good marriage by the parties involved, but I also don't think the cost/benefit analysis on Montreal's part was out of whack.
- Victoro311

It's a low risk signing, for sure.

Are there any high profile KHL or other non-NHL players (a la Panarin) available?

Are there any high profile KHL or other non-NHL players (a la Panarin) available?
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Plotnikov.