Well then until you know for sure or personally know someone close to you who has been "allegedly" sexually assaulted, made to be a criminal themselves on the stand for all to see, and had there life nearly ruined, I suggest you keep your (frank)ing mouth shut. I'm sick and tired of people sounding off on matters they know (frank)ing absolutely nothing about.
- errey12

This is the worlds smallest violin and its playing for you and all your friends that were "allegedly" sexually assaulted. Check your feelings at the door next time.

Not saying that 2.6 is bad move for Detroit. Vanek is high risk, high reward type of cat. He hasn't done anything ion the last three years to make me say, yep, he is a good player. Always leaves you waiting for more. He has stolen a lot of money from other teams.
- Oneonta Penguin

Agree he leaves you wanting more, but he still gets top 6 stats. Ok for the price.

I think he was referring to hockey players.
- madmike71

Lol, he only said anything else

what is he effective at?
- j.boyd919

Well he basically eats the penguins for breakfast every time they play. He fights but he isn't goonish at all. Guy can skate with the best of them, is solid as a brick and keeps the puck in the other teams end. He is a good hockey player on a accounts. I'd take him over any three of Rust, Sheary or Kuhn.

I usually let you alone because your comments make me think your a 13 yr old smiling with a Pens jersey on but Kunitz is still light years ahead of Rust and Sheary when it comes to playing hockey. I really don't think the Pens have any plans to move him.
- Grinder47

Go back to watching 70s hockey games, thats where your mental process on what you think hockey should be, belongs. Kuntiz has no hands left, zero. His time is over, and is not worth anything close to that cap hit he has. You can def find someone who can do what he does, at a fraction of the cost. Kuni is a warrior, but at some point father time wins.

I really don't know what Schultz will command. Don't have a clue. Trying to find the comparable guy that recently just signed as a bench mark. Did Pittsburgh sheltering him with minutes in the play-offs bring down what it could have been? Schultz is one of those tricky guys to figure out. He did look a lot better in Pittsburgh. However, do you have a good sample size to figure out what is fair, not idiotic?

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm more comfortable with him at #6 than DP, but we don't have the room.
- Oneonta Penguin

Ian Cole is likely the best benchmark for Schultz's contract. Different starting points in the contracts they are coming from... but both with small sample sizes after being traded, and looking strong in a new situation.

Go back to watching 70s hockey games, thats where your mental process on what you think hockey should be, belongs. Kuntiz has no hands left, zero. His time is over, and is not worth anything close to that cap hit he has. You can def find someone who can do what he does, at a fraction of the cost. Kuni is a warrior, but at some point father time wins.
- Thorny

Kunitz literally carried the Malkin line through the playoffs. Every single bit of success Malkin had(besides his backhand goal against washington) came off of Kunitz's forechecking and hardwork(Rust to to a much smaller degree). Not to mention how well he see's the ice and the passes he makes with those no hands of his. You get rid of Kunitz everyone on here is gonna be saying how nice it would be to have Kunitz 20 games into the season.

Kunitz literally carried the Malkin line through the playoffs. Every single bit of success Malkin had(besides his backhand goal against washington) came off of Kunitz's forechecking and hardwork(Rust to to a much smaller degree). Not to mention how well he see's the ice and the passes he makes with those no hands of his. You get rid of Kunitz everyone on here is gonna be saying how nice it would be to have Kunitz 20 games into the season.
- Grinder47

You seriously think that Kuntiz carried Malkin in the playoffs, and that Kunitz hasn't lost his hands? I guess he didn't pass on a wide open net in game 6 of the Stanley Cup finals too right?

You seriously think that Kuntiz carried Malkin in the playoffs, and that Kunitz hasn't lost his hands? I guess he didn't pass on a wide open net in game 6 of the Stanley Cup finals too right?
- Thorny

You mean the play where he was trying to spoon feed Malkin a goal? Sullivan probably sat Kunitz down and explained to him he had to carry the Lazy Russian who was acting like he just gave birth. It's really not hard to understand whats happening on the ice when you actually understand how to play hockey like I do. You should spend like 30 games next season and not look at the puck but watch whats going pon around it.

You mean the play where he was trying to spoon feed Malkin a goal? Sullivan probably sat Kunitz down and explained to him he had to carry the Lazy Russian who was acting like he just gave birth. It's really not hard to understand whats happening on the ice when you actually understand how to play hockey like I do. You should spend like 30 games next season and not look at the puck but watch whats going pon around it.
- Grinder47

Why did he do that, he had a WIDE open net?

You mean the play where he was trying to spoon feed Malkin a goal? Sullivan probably sat Kunitz down and explained to him he had to carry the Lazy Russian who was acting like he just gave birth. It's really not hard to understand whats happening on the ice when you actually understand how to play hockey like I do. You should spend like 30 games next season and not look at the puck but watch whats going pon around it.
- Grinder47

So... lets be real here. Are you just an idiot, or trolling on purpose?

So... lets be real here. Are you just an idiot, or trolling on purpose?
- Guile

He is being a troll, no one is that stupid.

Kunitz literally carried the Malkin line through the playoffs. Every single bit of success Malkin had(besides his backhand goal against washington) came off of Kunitz's forechecking and hardwork(Rust to to a much smaller degree). Not to mention how well he see's the ice and the passes he makes with those no hands of his. You get rid of Kunitz everyone on here is gonna be saying how nice it would be to have Kunitz 20 games into the season.
- Grinder47

I don't know how people say "Kunitz doesn't have any hands left".

He's not vintage Kunitz. But he still put up 40 pts in 80 games during the regular season and 12 points in 24 games during the playoffs. He still has hands....just not as good as they use to be. Toews had 58 pts in the regular season. Kunitz is still an excellent 3rd liner next year. And I think their is a reasonable probability we resign him at a team friendly number the following year. He likely has 3-4 years left in him if he's willing to take a pay cut either in Pittsburgh or elsewhere.

He is being a troll, no one is that stupid.
- Thorny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-berApgZ-DU

Here is the CBC play of game 6. Go to 1:20:39 to see the play and what the announcers say afterward.

Why did he do that, he had a WIDE open net?
- stevens87

Well sir hockey is a very fast game where poop happens very fast. I would guess that Kuni was thinking the goalie was waiting on the pass and going to get over and just made up his mind that he was giving it back to Geno. A play that works prob 80 percent of the time but it just so happened it didn't that time.

Check out Paul Bissonnette's twitter feed. Hilarious:

https://twitter.com/BizNasty2point0

I don't know how people say "Kunitz doesn't have any hands left".

He's not vintage Kunitz. But he still put up 40 pts in 80 games during the regular season and 12 points in 24 games during the playoffs. He still has hands....just not as good as they use to be. Toews had 58 pts in the regular season. Kunitz is still an excellent 3rd liner next year. And I think their is a reasonable probability we resign him at a team friendly number the following year. He likely has 3-4 years left in him if he's willing to take a pay cut either in Pittsburgh or elsewhere.
- sditulli

He had 4 goals in 24 playoff games, and 2 of them were on the PP. You need more than that from a guy making almost 4 mil a year. That is why his hands are gone, and it hasn't been just the playoffs. You can see the decline in his hands from the start of last year. When you are playing with guys who set you up in prime scoring positions, you need to deliever...His shooting % has dipped quite a bit the last 2 years as well

Well he basically eats the penguins for breakfast every time they play. He fights but he isn't goonish at all. Guy can skate with the best of them, is solid as a brick and keeps the puck in the other teams end. He is a good hockey player on a accounts. I'd take him over any three of Rust, Sheary or Kuhn.
- Grinder47

you are such a joke. hahahaahahaha

Check out Paul Bissonnette's twitter feed. Hilarious:

https://twitter.com/BizNasty2point0
- chimpira

I was reading it, it really is good stuff.

He is being a troll, no one is that stupid.
- Thorny

nah he definitely is that stupid.

So... lets be real here. Are you just an idiot, or trolling on purpose?
- Guile

I just understand whats happening when I watch hockey and you all don't? I don't want to be rude but after the way Kuni just played throughout these playoffs I can't believe anyone who actually knows what they are talking about wouldn't mind having him around next year. If you told Malkin right now he could choose one winger to have next season between Rust, Sheary, or Kunitz he would say Kunitz right away. If you get rid of him your not going to replace what he brings. Better to just let his contract expire.

Well sir hockey is a very fast game where poop happens very fast. I would guess that Kuni was thinking the goalie was waiting on the pass and going to get over and just made up his mind that he was giving it back to Geno. A play that works prob 80 percent of the time but it just so happened it didn't that time.
- Grinder47

That play that Kunitz tried to make happens 0% of the time. He should have shot it, the whole bench knows he should have. Pens are lucky SJ didn't tie it, that was a layup and Kuntiz blew it.

That play that Kunitz tried to make happens 0% of the time. He should have shot it, the whole bench knows he should have. Pens are lucky SJ didn't tie it, that was a layup and Kuntiz blew it.
- Thorny

I said the same thing at the time it happened. If SJ comes back and wins this game, that will be the first thing people point to as why the Pens lost.

I said the same thing at the time it happened. If SJ comes back and wins this game, that will be the first thing people point to as why the Pens lost.
- stevens87

If SJ would have came back to win that series after that, I think Kunitz would have been moved at the draft. He would be the greatest goat in Pens history and perhaps Pittsburgh history.

Boedker to Sharks on a fair deal. The Sharks will be back