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lovinhawks
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.17.2016

Jun 30 @ 9:22 PM ET
Just asking is 1 man at 10.5 worth more than 2 at 5.25 sorry at some point u still need a WHOLE team
lovinhawks
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.17.2016

Jun 30 @ 9:23 PM ET
Your worth is what the market says you're worth. I don't find it hard to believe another team would pony up $6M-$7M for Panarin. Do you?
- EbonyRaptor

could get a lot of assets
Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wild Wild West, IL
Joined: 06.29.2014

Jun 30 @ 9:24 PM ET
Zawaski's noting interesting new follows by Brian Campbell on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/jayza...status/748687077793902592

Among them the Blackhawks and Toews.

Who will be Hawks surprise signing? The one that comes out of nowhere?

Need more news!
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Jun 30 @ 9:26 PM ET
I think the cap will increase next year, and I'll tell you why.

1) The escalator is likely to be applied again.
2) Adding a 31st team isn't going to drive it down significantly, as they will likely take into account the increased revenue of LV in determining the cap. I think the players would be upset if they didn't and it only makes sense to account for the increase/growth. The point of the cap is they try to set it so that HRR will be split 50-50 for the next season. They have been inflating it more to account for growth, in addition to the 5% the NHLPA can vote on.
3) League revenue still grew this season with the CAD taking ~10% hit. The CAD has been recovering and it is unlikely that it would drop another ~10% or so compared to the average for last season.

I'm willing to bet the cap lands somewhere around 76 mil.



EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Jun 30 @ 9:27 PM ET
Zawaski's noting interesting new follows by Brian Campbell on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/jayza...status/748687077793902592

Among them the Blackhawks and Toews.

Who will be Hawks surprise signing? The one that comes out of nowhere?

Need more news!

- Marlowe


Did I miss something about a "surprise signing"?
JohnScott
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gene & Jude's Parking Lot, IL
Joined: 03.28.2013

Jun 30 @ 9:35 PM ET
Did I miss something about a "surprise signing"?
- EbonyRaptor



Yeah, because Campbell is not too much of surprise by now... Did I miss something?
Hawkeyes1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Evanston, IL
Joined: 06.14.2015

Jun 30 @ 9:49 PM ET
I think the cap will increase next year, and I'll tell you why.

1) The escalator is likely to be applied again.
2) Adding a 31st team isn't going to drive it down significantly, as they will likely take into account the increased revenue of LV in determining the cap. I think the players would be upset if they didn't and it only makes sense to account for the increase/growth. The point of the cap is they try to set it so that HRR will be split 50-50 for the next season. They have been inflating it more to account for growth, in addition to the 5% the NHLPA can vote on.
3) League revenue still grew this season with the CAD taking ~10% hit. The CAD has been recovering and it is unlikely that it would drop another ~10% or so compared to the average for last season.

I'm willing to bet the cap lands somewhere around 76 mil.

- breadbag


This isnt a fixed # being distributed to one additional team. This is revenue distribution. With one additional team, there is one teams additional revenue. A team in its first year will very likely rake it in. All they have to do is meet an NHL teams median revenue and it will not go down. If it is any higher, it will raise the pie for everyone. This whole there is now 31 teams to distribute $$, so it will go down is a false premise.
TTtime
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jun 30 @ 9:54 PM ET
Did I miss something about a "surprise signing"?
- EbonyRaptor


Not to answer for Marlowe but i believe she was asking the thread for guesses on someone we think the Hawks may sign that hasn't been considered previously

Edit: Though I guess I did just answer for her.
Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wild Wild West, IL
Joined: 06.29.2014

Jun 30 @ 9:55 PM ET
Did I miss something about a "surprise signing"?
- EbonyRaptor

No. Just musing that there could be one - like Richards - that we don't see coming.

EDIT: thanks TT for reading my mind! You get the cookie!
TTtime
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jun 30 @ 9:56 PM ET
Just asking is 1 man at 10.5 worth more than 2 at 5.25 sorry at some point u still need a WHOLE team
- lovinhawks

I would answer that it depends on who are the 2 players
Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wild Wild West, IL
Joined: 06.29.2014

Jun 30 @ 9:58 PM ET
@DarrenDreger
I believe the Dallas Stars want Brian Campbell. I believe the Stars were his 2nd choice. I also believe he rejoins the Hawks tomorrow.
TTtime
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jun 30 @ 10:09 PM ET
No. Just musing that there could be one - like Richards - that we don't see coming.

EDIT: thanks TT for reading my mind! You get the cookie!

- Marlowe

i would like to thank the Academy, all those who pushed me to be better,,,



My guess, and the only ones out there I personally wouldn't mind, are Stempniak and Hudler.
DK002
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Evanston, IL
Joined: 06.12.2012

Jun 30 @ 10:12 PM ET
No. Just musing that there could be one - like Richards - that we don't see coming.

EDIT: thanks TT for reading my mind! You get the cookie!

- Marlowe


C'mon Marlowe we all know Stan is going to announce the Rundblad extension any time now...

Seriously if they lose Campbell at this point I think it's s PR trainwreck. Campbell is McD's feel good story for the convention. We know he can still play and play for Q...And he really solidifies that defense...they'll be stronger on the back end then we've seen in a while.

Interesting that Wiz was bought out today...thoughts?

And it looks like Ladd will be with the Isle...Ladder certainly a fine player and got a bump from Stamkos taking that deal in Tampa...
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 30 @ 10:13 PM ET
This isnt a fixed # being distributed to one additional team. This is revenue distribution. With one additional team, there is one teams additional revenue. A team in its first year will very likely rake it in. All they have to do is meet an NHL teams median revenue and it will not go down. If it is any higher, it will raise the pie for everyone. This whole there is now 31 teams to distribute $$, so it will go down is a false premise.
- Hawkeyes1


Not the several hundred millions in national TV revenues, Rogers and NBC - those are fixed revenues, I think, subject only to the value of the Looney.
Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wild Wild West, IL
Joined: 06.29.2014

Jun 30 @ 10:14 PM ET
i would like to thank the Academy, all those who pushed me to be better,,,



My guess, and the only ones out there I personally wouldn't mind, are Stempniak and Hudler.

- TTtime

I really think they need to add a top 6 F capable of playing LW. Might not be tomorrow though. Think we do end up getting Soupy back which I am pretty excited about.

BTW your award is in the mail. Truly awesome acceptance speech but you forgot to thank all the little people who like you, they really like you!
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jun 30 @ 10:15 PM ET
C'mon Marlowe we all know Stan is going to announce the Rundblad extension any time now...

Seriously if they lose Campbell at this point I think it's s PR trainwreck. Campbell is McD's feel good story for the convention. We know he can still play and play for Q...And he really solidifies that defense...they'll be stronger on the back end then we've seen in a while.

Interesting that Wiz was bought out today...thoughts?

And it looks like Ladd will be with the Isle...Ladder certainly a fine player and got a bump from Stamkos taking that deal in Tampa...

- DK002


The guy who posts here?
Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wild Wild West, IL
Joined: 06.29.2014

Jun 30 @ 10:17 PM ET
The guy who postts here?
- HawkintheD

Nah, Carolina Hurricanes James Wisniewski. They couldn't afford our Wiz!
hawks2010
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Madison, WI
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 30 @ 10:18 PM ET
Just picks? Fits a McD narrative since draft is here next year.
- blackhawk24

CC for Lehner and Foligno would be nice!!
DK002
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Evanston, IL
Joined: 06.12.2012

Jun 30 @ 10:23 PM ET
The guy who posts here?
- HawkintheD


Yes IMissWiz he'd look great in a Hawks sweater...yeah sadly I think Wiz had an ACL...traded for Sami Pahlsen...with the Ducks at the time...?

Hey D what's up Bud...
hope you and your family are well

Happy 4th Pal...

so what do you think do they reach into the bargain bin and go after Vanek...




http://sportsmockery.com/...lackhawks-reached-former/
TTtime
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jun 30 @ 10:25 PM ET
I really think they need to add a top 6 F capable of playing LW. Might not be tomorrow though. Think we do end up getting Soupy back which I am pretty excited about.

BTW your award is in the mail. Truly awesome acceptance speech but you forgot to thank all the little people who like you, they really like you!

- Marlowe


I look at it more as having some guys play above their contract levels.

Panik, TVR, Kempny and to a lesser extent, Roszival all should be able to do that.

Panarin already does. Now if you add a couple more guys up front to do it. Either FA signees or younger guys, plus the core playing up to their standards, the Hawks might be okay.
TTtime
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jun 30 @ 10:26 PM ET
Yes IMissWiz he'd look great in a Hawks sweater...yeah sadly I think Wiz had an ACL...traded for Sami Pahlsen...with the Ducks at the time...?

Hey D what's up Bud...
hope you and your family are well

Happy 4th Pal...

so what do you think do they reach into the bargain bin and go after Vanek...




http://sportsmockery.com/...lackhawks-reached-former/

- DK002


No, please no.
DK002
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Evanston, IL
Joined: 06.12.2012

Jun 30 @ 10:28 PM ET
No, please no.
- TTtime


My thoughts exactly...
Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wild Wild West, IL
Joined: 06.29.2014

Jun 30 @ 10:37 PM ET
I look at it more as having some guys play above their contract levels.

Panik, TVR, Kempny and to a lesser extent, Roszival all should be able to do that.

Panarin already does. Now if you add a couple more guys up front to do it. Either FA signees or younger guys, plus the core playing up to their standards, the Hawks might be okay.

- TTtime

Worry that guys overachieving won't be enough - especially for post season. Seems like they will be very strong on D (esp if/when Campbell signs) but as we saw this last post season, you don't get very far without rolling 4 lines. Rather see a player pulling up one of the lower lines than perhaps trying too hard on the top lines.
maria_wyeth
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 09.24.2015

Jun 30 @ 10:47 PM ET
Does soupy pull a Stamkos? Hope not!

Per @GeorgeRichards

Brian Campbell made $7.1 in final year of deal w/ #FlaPanthers last year; heard he was offered 1 and 2-year deals by team. He's UFA tomorrow

Brian Campbell wants to play in Chicago, don't think Blackhawks have the $. Heard #FlaPanthers offered a little more than Mitchell's deal

- Marlowe


Dear Panthers/Stars,



Credit: SCH's Twitter
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jun 30 @ 10:47 PM ET
Yes IMissWiz he'd look great in a Hawks sweater...yeah sadly I think Wiz had an ACL...traded for Sami Pahlsen...with the Ducks at the time...?

Hey D what's up Bud...
hope you and your family are well

Happy 4th Pal...

so what do you think do they reach into the bargain bin and go after Vanek...




http://sportsmockery.com/...lackhawks-reached-former/

- DK002


Hey DK, not much. Hope all is good with you and your family and back at ya on the 4th.

Looking forward to some cocktails and grilling with some friends this weekend.

I'm with you and TT. Say no to Vanek. Wouldn't mind Hudler.
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