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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 30 @ 5:27 PM ET
oh. Okay. Right - two pro years, AHL counts too.

To be honest, I don't think it matters. I suspect there will be far better options out there than Sparks or Bibeau. Let them play the year in the AHL. Do'nt give them tonnes of NHL time, because that chances that they take off, then we actually do have a problem. Let Bernier play out the year, let him go, and then maybe one of the two kids is ready for backup duties in 17/18.

We don't really have a problem with goalies being exposed right now. Because we do'nt have anything worth claiming other than Andersen.

- prock



No doubt.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 30 @ 5:28 PM ET
Don't have to retain, they pay him the 2 million tomorrow, leaves 2.15 in salary for whom ever takes him.
- the_eye




Well yeah, but still 4.25 cap hit
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 30 @ 5:30 PM ET
Are you talking about trading him?

Why bother? Let him play out the year as backup, and be free to sign anywhere he wants.

- prock



Cap space

Find better option

the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Jun 30 @ 5:31 PM ET
no.

and yes.

- Tumbleweed

Troy Brower is another option.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 30 @ 5:32 PM ET
Well yeah, but still 4.25 cap hit
- burn


Why are you worried about cap hit this year? They have 10M in space, they'll get another $5M in LTIR space from Horton, and probably at least another $3M from Lupul.

They don't need space this year at all. It's not a problem.
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Jun 30 @ 5:34 PM ET
Why are you worried about cap hit this year? They have 10M in space, they'll get another $5M in LTIR space from Horton, and probably at least another $3M from Lupul.

They don't need space this year at all. It's not a problem.

- prock

The problem is he sucks and has no business even being a back up.
Hopefully someone needing to get to the cap floor with only having to pay half the salary will take him.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 30 @ 5:35 PM ET
Why are you worried about cap hit this year? They have 10M in space, they'll get another $5M in LTIR space from Horton, and probably at least another $3M from Lupul.

They don't need space this year at all. It's not a problem.

- prock


Ideally to me - he’s’ moved tomorrow for a pick. Sign a backup. Move that backup at the TDL for a pick.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 30 @ 5:36 PM ET
Troy Brower is another option.
- the_eye


i'd take him on a short term deal.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 30 @ 5:40 PM ET
The problem is he sucks and has no business even being a back up.
Hopefully someone needing to get to the cap floor with only having to pay half the salary will take him.

- the_eye



okay, why do we care about this for 16/17? As a backup that plays 15 to 20 games, what is going to cost us? 10th place? Hell yeah, if he can cost a spot or 3 in the standings, I'm all in.
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Jun 30 @ 5:40 PM ET
i'd take him on a short term deal.
- Tumbleweed

He's 30, 2 year deal would be good.
And Okposo is a way better option than Lucic.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 30 @ 5:40 PM ET
Why are you worried about cap hit this year? They have 10M in space, they'll get another $5M in LTIR space from Horton, and probably at least another $3M from Lupul.

They don't need space this year at all. It's not a problem.

- prock



They have room but if they want to sign ufa? If they want to take advantage of need to move salary?
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 30 @ 5:40 PM ET
Ideally to me - he’s’ moved tomorrow for a pick. Sign a backup. Move that backup at the TDL for a pick.
- Tumbleweed



Sure, if you can get a pick for him, do it. But you probably can't, and you might as well let him backup the team otherwise.
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Jun 30 @ 5:41 PM ET
okay, why do we care about this for 16/17? As a backup that plays 15 to 20 games, what is going to cost us? 10th place? Hell yeah, if he can cost a spot or 3 in the standings, I'm all in.
- prock

Frank that, it's all about the winning culture now.
Not some lazy ass GQ showing the kids the way.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 30 @ 5:41 PM ET
Brett connolly?
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 30 @ 5:41 PM ET
They have room but if they want to sign ufa? If they want to take advantage of need to move salary?
- burn



You think they're going to sign $20M in players in the next couple of months? on who? You'd have to overpay on the top 5 remaining guys to chew up that much space.
grim1911
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 30 @ 5:43 PM ET
Lupul is healthy. He is playing this year... We aren't having his contract taken off the cap unless we trade him
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Jun 30 @ 5:43 PM ET
You think they're going to sign $20M in players in the next couple of months? on who? You'd have to overpay on the top 5 remaining guys to chew up that much space.
- prock

I like Okposo and think he's well worth 5x5
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 30 @ 5:44 PM ET
He's 30, 2 year deal would be good.
And Okposo is a way better option than Lucic.

- the_eye


I expect Okposo will get too much term and money for my liking.

Other than demers, I’m all about churning and burning roster for one more year. sign short term ufa’s that can be turned into draft picks.
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Jun 30 @ 5:46 PM ET
I expect Okposo will get too much term and money for my liking.

Other than demers, I’m all about churning and burning roster for one more year. sign short term ufa’s that can be turned into draft picks.

- Tumbleweed

I would go as high as 5.7 for 5 years.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 30 @ 5:51 PM ET
I would go as high as 5.7 for 5 years.
- the_eye


i think he gets 6x6.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 30 @ 5:51 PM ET
I like Okposo and think he's well worth 5x5
- the_eye



okay, you look at the remaining UFAs, and come up with 4 guys that are worth $5M a year, and then tell me, how many you think the Leafs will get. They can pitch every single one of them, and they won't get more than 2. They may not even get 1.

They can't spend the space they have this year.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Jun 30 @ 5:52 PM ET
The problem is he sucks and has no business even being a back up.
Hopefully someone needing to get to the cap floor with only having to pay half the salary will take him.

- the_eye


This.

He sucks... he has proved it consistently - that he can't be relied upon.

Give the kids - who some here want to write off a real chance to develop as back-ups.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Jun 30 @ 5:54 PM ET
Brett connolly?
- burn


quite possibly worth a chance.

I'd rather take a chance on a reclamation project like Connolly - then sign Okposo.. who will end up being a glorified 3rd liner on this team going forward.

If they are pursuing FA... it should be on defense... not forward.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 30 @ 5:57 PM ET
This.

He sucks... he has proved it consistently - that he can't be relied upon.

Give the kids - who some here want to write off a real chance to develop as back-ups.

- BorjeFan4Ever



Both could use another year with the Marlies. Let them develop there.

If on the off chance one of them takes off, that only causes expansion draft protection issues. Let them do it next year, if it's gonna happen at all.

I mean, if you can get a pick for Bernier, sure, let them each split backup duties.

over 20 teams last year had more than 2 goalies play for them throughout the year anyway. Injuries happen, even without trade, they'll likely see the big club.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 30 @ 6:06 PM ET
Apparently Hockey's Future is shuttering it's site tomorrow.


We'll never know if Matthews is a 9.0A or 9.5B
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