You do have rig pig douchebags tho ...kinda balances out

Where is your place ?
- Redmile247

Yeah and where's the (frank)ing invite? Need somewhere where we can all go drink CR and celebrate the Okposo signing tomorrow.

Yeah and where's the (frank)ing invite? Need somewhere where we can all go drink CR and celebrate the Okposo signing tomorrow.
- The-O-G

I think you mean Martin. Thats a CC type of night

Yeah and where's the (frank)ing invite? Need somewhere where we can all go drink CR and celebrate the Okposo signing tomorrow.
- The-O-G

Honest question, does anyone think the flames will do something big tomorrow like Okposo?

Honest question, does anyone think the flames will do something big tomorrow like Okposo?
- Yeah...Baby

I think they sign a crap contract for a grinder.

Honest question, does anyone think the flames will do something big tomorrow like Okposo?
- Yeah...Baby

BT said no big splash coming via UFA a few days ago. Hopefully it's McGinn and Martin so Todd has something to criticize this offseason other than poor Lance.

BT said no big splash coming via UFA a few days ago. Hopefully it's McGinn and Martin so Todd has something to criticize this offseason other than poor Lance.
- fry

Yeah I herd that as well but I wonder if he's bluffing or is it truly the game plan?
I just don't understand who will play with Johny and money?

You ever been here?

He's apparently an avid outdoorsman...
- geta02it

It's a great city and I lived there half my life. I've just never really heard of anyone choosing Calgary as their place they want to retire without a personal connection to the city.

Yeah I herd that as well but I wonder if he's bluffing or is it truly the game plan?
I just don't understand who will play with Johny and money?
- Yeah...Baby

Backlund was playing RW when we drafted him.

Yeah I herd that as well but I wonder if he's bluffing or is it truly the game plan?
I just don't understand who will play with Johny and money?
- Yeah...Baby

Anyone cheap, who isn't a tire fire. There's mony and Johnny, Tkachuk and Bennett, backs and frolik. Three solid pairs, plug in elc's to fill the holes.

Backlund was playing RW when we drafted him.
- fry

After Chia signs Lucic tomorrow to play with McDoink, Tre signs Martin to be Johnny's big brother.

Noooooooooo don't sign these plugger types

Anyone cheap, who isn't a tire fire. There's mony and Johnny, Tkachuk and Bennett, backs and frolik. Three solid pairs, plug in elc's to fill the holes.
- dr_soiledpants

I would rather they didn't just sign someone for the sake of signing someone! Just don't see Tkachuk NHL ready this year.

Johnny, Money, ?
?, Bennett, Frolik
?, Backlund, Ferland

Lots of gaps, and of all the rumoured players on our list I would rather give some of our younger guys a shot than waist a couple years of money on long shots.

Noooooooooo don't sign these plugger types
- Darthlee

You'll learn to love how Matt Martin plays.

Anyone cheap, who isn't a tire fire. There's mony and Johnny, Tkachuk and Bennett, backs and frolik. Three solid pairs, plug in elc's to fill the holes.
- dr_soiledpants

Normally I would agree, but when it comes to Gaudreau and Monahan they tried all last season to plug in players on the right side and nothing worked. Hudler, Ferland, Colborne, etc. Nothing fit right. It's not like there are any really new pieces to put there this season.

So take a crack at one of these players. Lines keep getting thrown out like how they are a "long shot", or that power forwards break down sooner. But the bigger names power forwards aren't that old. Okposo and Lucic are only 27. It's not like they would be signing them well into their late 30's. To say that they are a long shot is horribly under estimating them. People can say "David Clarkson" all they want but to use 1 recent player as the definition of all just shows a lack of analysis.

The reality is that as big a hole as goaltending was last season, there was also a very big hole in size in the top 6. It's just a case that it wasn't at the forefront because of the goaltending woes. They were the third worst team on the road last season, and I will bet dollars to donuts that many of those losses can in part be attributed to them not having last change on the road, not getting the matchups they way, an their top end skill being physically dominated. Look at Gaudreau's road numbers vs when he home. This is especially the case in the pacific division with the size of the teams they need to go against.

Players like Martin or Mcginn don't help this issue. They need players that can play with the top 6, and more importantly the top line. That makes it be a case of players like Lucic, Okposo, maybe Backes, or Ladd. Even Boedker.

The cap space is there to sign 1 of these guys. Otherwise while this team will be improved next season. They will still run into the same road block.

Normally I would agree, but when it comes to Gaudreau and Monahan they tried all last season to plug in players on the right side and nothing worked. Hudler, Ferland, Colborne, etc. Nothing fit right. It's not like there are any really new pieces to put there this season.

So take a crack at one of these players. Lines keep getting thrown out like how they are a "long shot", or that power forwards break down sooner. But the bigger names power forwards aren't that old. Okposo and Lucic are only 27. It's not like they would be signing them well into their late 30's. To say that they are a long shot is horribly under estimating them. People can say "David Clarkson" all they want but to use 1 recent player as the definition of all just shows a lack of analysis.

The reality is that as big a hole as goaltending was last season, there was also a very big hole in size in the top 6. It's just a case that it wasn't at the forefront because of the goaltending woes. They were the third worst team on the road last season, and I will bet dollars to donuts that many of those losses can in part be attributed to them not having last change on the road, not getting the matchups they way, an their top end skill being physically dominated. Look at Gaudreau's road numbers vs when he home. This is especially the case in the pacific division with the size of the teams they need to go against.

Players like Martin or Mcginn don't help this issue. They need players that can play with the top 6, and more importantly the top line. That makes it be a case of players like Lucic, Okposo, maybe Backes, or Ladd. Even Boedker.

The cap space is there to sign 1 of these guys. Otherwise while this team will be improved next season. They will still run into the same road block.
- dal_johnson

I agree the problem is that we don't seem to be linked to any of the binger names it's long shots we are linked to that will fill positions that could probable be filled by someone in our system.

Normally I would agree, but when it comes to Gaudreau and Monahan they tried all last season to plug in players on the right side and nothing worked. Hudler, Ferland, Colborne, etc. Nothing fit right. It's not like there are any really new pieces to put there this season.

So take a crack at one of these players. Lines keep getting thrown out like how they are a "long shot", or that power forwards break down sooner. But the bigger names power forwards aren't that old. Okposo and Lucic are only 27. It's not like they would be signing them well into their late 30's. To say that they are a long shot is horribly under estimating them. People can say "David Clarkson" all they want but to use 1 recent player as the definition of all just shows a lack of analysis.

The reality is that as big a hole as goaltending was last season, there was also a very big hole in size in the top 6. It's just a case that it wasn't at the forefront because of the goaltending woes. They were the third worst team on the road last season, and I will bet dollars to donuts that many of those losses can in part be attributed to them not having last change on the road, not getting the matchups they way, an their top end skill being physically dominated. Look at Gaudreau's road numbers vs when he home. This is especially the case in the pacific division with the size of the teams they need to go against.

Players like Martin or Mcginn don't help this issue. They need players that can play with the top 6, and more importantly the top line. That makes it be a case of players like Lucic, Okposo, maybe Backes, or Ladd. Even Boedker.

The cap space is there to sign 1 of these guys. Otherwise while this team will be improved next season. They will still run into the same road block.
- dal_johnson

Okposo will get vastly overpaid.

Lucic didn't play on the 1st line in LA because it was a massive failure in the first 12 games with the Kings.

Boedker is Frolik 2.0. Good but not the size we need.

McGinn had only four less goals than Lucic playing erratic minutes and very little powerplay.

Brouwer Is building a house In Calgary and imposes well on the ice. It's probably who we're signing. Sorry, guess we're screwed in your opinion.

You'll learn to love how Matt Martin plays.
- fry

There's aways a place for bangers on the fourth line. And Martin's one of the best. Problem is, we have 5 fourth liners already on the roster.

There's aways a place for bangers on the fourth line. And Martin's one of the best. Problem is, we have 5 fourth liners already on the roster.
- JimmyBeem

I saw Isles games this year where he was playing 2nd/3rd line in a space creating role. Looked effective.

I agree the problem is that we don't seem to be linked to any of the binger names it's long shots we are linked to that will fill positions that could probable be filled by someone in our system.
- Yeah...Baby

http://calgaryherald.com/...mes-head-into-free-agency

No Wideman buy out, so I'm feeling a trade. My best guesses being Carolina or Boston.
One can only dream.

Normally I would agree, but when it comes to Gaudreau and Monahan they tried all last season to plug in players on the right side and nothing worked. Hudler, Ferland, Colborne, etc. Nothing fit right. It's not like there are any really new pieces to put there this season.

So take a crack at one of these players. Lines keep getting thrown out like how they are a "long shot", or that power forwards break down sooner. But the bigger names power forwards aren't that old. Okposo and Lucic are only 27. It's not like they would be signing them well into their late 30's. To say that they are a long shot is horribly under estimating them. People can say "David Clarkson" all they want but to use 1 recent player as the definition of all just shows a lack of analysis.

The reality is that as big a hole as goaltending was last season, there was also a very big hole in size in the top 6. It's just a case that it wasn't at the forefront because of the goaltending woes. They were the third worst team on the road last season, and I will bet dollars to donuts that many of those losses can in part be attributed to them not having last change on the road, not getting the matchups they way, an their top end skill being physically dominated. Look at Gaudreau's road numbers vs when he home. This is especially the case in the pacific division with the size of the teams they need to go against.

Players like Martin or Mcginn don't help this issue. They need players that can play with the top 6, and more importantly the top line. That makes it be a case of players like Lucic, Okposo, maybe Backes, or Ladd. Even Boedker.

The cap space is there to sign 1 of these guys. Otherwise while this team will be improved next season. They will still run into the same road block.
- dal_johnson

Mony and Johnny had more points last year, with a revolving door of garbage, than they had the year before with hudler. It doesn't matter who plays there, mony and Johnny will put up points. Throw somebody like Poirier, or klimchuk up there and inflate their value for a future trade.

Elliott Freidman thinks chia offered Lucic 7yrs @42mil, which is an absurd amount. If that's what he gets, okposo will want similar. Too much for too long for either guy in my opinion.

A question for those who feel Tkachuk won't make the team right away. Who exactly should play left of Bennett before him?

Johnny - Mony -?
Tkachuk - Bennett -?
Ferland - Backlund - Frolik
Bouma - Stajan - Chiasson
Bollig

If colborne signs put him beside backs, and move frolik up.

Okposo will get vastly overpaid.

Lucic didn't play on the 1st line in LA because it was a massive failure in the first 12 games with the Kings.

Boedker is Frolik 2.0. Good but not the size we need.

McGinn had only four less goals than Lucic playing erratic minutes and very little powerplay.

Brouwer Is building a house In Calgary and imposes well on the ice. It's probably who we're signing. Sorry, guess we're screwed in your opinion.
- fry

Lucic had trouble adjusting at first, but worked his way back to the top line with Kopitar and Gaborik. Or at least second line depending on if you view the Kopitar or the Carter line as the top line. That is who he skated with in the playoffs. And if you are going to judge him wholely on his first 12 games, then the Flames should buy out Hamilton right now. How about Gaudrea's first 8 2 season ago, or Bennett's first few this season. The season is a hell of a lot longer than 12 games. I'm not saying to bring him in and have him be the number 1 guy. I'm saying bring in a physical top 6 or top 3 forward to provide the time and space that Gaudreau and Monahan need, but can also provide needed finish.

Why shouldn't Okposo get paid. What has he done to show that he isn't worth 5 to 6 mil. Look at comparable players with comparable numbers. That's what they are getting. And you can't say that it is all because he plays with Tavares as then Tavares has gotten injured Okposo still performed. I'm not saying vastly overpay, but that is part of improving the team. An it's not like he's in his 30's already. Having him for his 27 to 32 years isn't going to be some crippled up player out there.

I agree on Boedker, just listed as another option.

I may be wrong on McGinn, but I've never seen him as a top 6 guy. And I never said I had a problem with Brouwer.

I never said they would be screwed. But for two years straight they have been physically dominated by the Ducks, Kings, sometimes Sharks, the Blues. Something needs to be done to try to mitigate that. Hoping for the same thing without taking a different action. What's that saying about trying the same thing over and over again but expecting a different result?

Lucic had trouble adjusting at first, but worked his way back to the top line with Kopitar and Gaborik. Or at least second line depending on if you view the Kopitar or the Carter line as the top line. That is who he skated with in the playoffs. And if you are going to judge him wholely on his first 12 games, then the Flames should buy out Hamilton right now. How about Gaudrea's first 8 2 season ago, or Bennett's first few this season. The season is a hell of a lot longer than 12 games. I'm not saying to bring him in and have him be the number 1 guy. I'm saying bring in a physical top 6 or top 3 forward to provide the time and space that Gaudreau and Monahan need, but can also provide needed finish.

Why shouldn't Okposo get paid. What has he done to show that he isn't worth 5 to 6 mil. Look at comparable players with comparable numbers. That's what they are getting. And you can't say that it is all because he plays with Tavares as then Tavares has gotten injured Okposo still performed. I'm not saying vastly overpay, but that is part of improving the team. An it's not like he's in his 30's already. Having him for his 27 to 32 years isn't going to be some crippled up player out there.

I agree on Boedker, just listed as another option.

I may be wrong on McGinn, but I've never seen him as a top 6 guy. And I never said I had a problem with Brouwer.

I never said they would be screwed. But for two years straight they have been physically dominated by the Ducks, Kings, sometimes Sharks, the Blues. Something needs to be done to try to mitigate that. Hoping for the same thing without taking a different action. What's that saying about trying the same thing over and over again but expecting a different result?
- dal_johnson

Can agree with most of that. We definitely agree regarding the Flames getting pushed around.

220 lbs Martin, 215lbs Brouwer should hopefully help.

Martin at 2x4, Brouwer at 4x4, and McGinn at 3x3 would be a whole truckload of size. Let the lines sort themselves out in camp I say.

End of the day Johnny, Sam, and Money keep getting better. Go Flames Go. Great time for us to be fans no matter what we do tomorrow.

Can agree with most of that. We definitely agree regarding the Flames getting pushed around.

220 lbs Martin, 215lbs Brouwer should hopefully help.

Martin at 2x4, Brouwer at 4x4, and McGinn at 3x3 would be a whole truckload of size. Let the lines sort themselves out in camp I say.

End of the day Johnny, Sam, and Money keep getting better. Go Flames Go. Great time for us to be fans no matter what we do tomorrow.


- fry

If I read your numbers right you would rather spend 9 million a year on three guys that are probably third and 4th line guys. Maybe 2nd line if the stars align? That as opposed to spending 6 mil on 1 guy that will definitely be 1st line on this team, 2nd at the worst.

I'm sorry but I fail to see the logic in that.

This team doesn't need bottom 6 guys. If Colborne will resign for 2.5 then run a third line of Backlund, Frolik, and Colborne. They were effective last season and can be defensively responsible. 4th Line will be Stajan, Ferland and decide between Bollig, Bouma, or Chiasson.

I hope Tkachuk does make this team. Run a second line of him, Bennett, and whoever is best out of Shinkaruk or Poirier. I lean to Shinkaruk.

Fist line is Johnny, Mony, and hopefully a guy like Okposo. Add in that Okposo is a right shot that this team is lacking.

I know it probably isn't going to happen as there has been nothing said about these guys linked to the flames. But it does make sense

All these projected lineups, and no Janko. Shame.