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AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Jun 30 @ 6:32 AM ET
YIKES......... I haven't seen reaction like this in almost any trade EVER.

I always thought PC was better at making moves than drafting.... and so far, every oilers fan, myself included, would take this trade back if we could tomorrow !
holeinone
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 07.03.2007

Jun 30 @ 6:38 AM ET
I do not disagree that the oilers lost this trade Matt as they abvioisly gave up the far superior player. With that said your complete over the top negativity over the past few months on this site and others has has come to an all time tipping point. The other bloggers out there give rational opinions and insightful information that you are simply lacking. Either change your mindset when writing a blog or possibly your job aspirations in the future.
- Oilman97

They had a poll on Sportsnet about this trade Who won the trade NJ 89% Oil 11% You can take it from there
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

Jun 30 @ 6:41 AM ET
I saw it, not sure where the puck moving d-men are coming from...your comment on Sempniak I agree with

Oilers will struggle to score this season big time though IMO

- flashfire


One of their issues was getting the puck from d to f. They need a transitional d, Larsson should help this. He may not rack up points, but he will be a catalyst in transitioning the pucks direction.
Davey_Crockett
Location: Freddie "The Goat" for the Selke!
Joined: 01.31.2013

Jun 30 @ 6:42 AM ET
I hope the Oilers fans don't have any misdirected anger towards Larsson. He is what he is.

Does a Lucic signing help soften the blow at all?
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

Jun 30 @ 6:45 AM ET
He's far more sound defensively


I think it's clear what type of team chiarelli wants


its crazy how the narrative of the small soft oilers is going to be drastically changed if we sign milan.
Hell, it pretty much should be already, but people love their name power.
Lucic, maroon, kassian, Hendricks, nurse, Davidson, pouliot.
Even Leon, pulju are behemoths

- Ihateallofu


Nurse won't be around much, hopefully. Give him most of the year to develop and mature in the A.
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

Jun 30 @ 6:52 AM ET
Give Larsson some time to grow. He's going to be really good, and really good for the culture of the oilers. He will teach all the young kids on D the way its done. I'd say he's even future Vezina trophy winner. Oilers got their number #1 Dman. They gave up a great player in return but it had to be done.
- Deadmau55


That would be one he'll of a dman to be the best goalie...
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jun 30 @ 6:55 AM ET
Oilers scored just 199 goals last year (26th) and almost nothing from their blueline. Larsson helps fix this how?
- Matt_Henderson

Wide an to the rescue!
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

Jun 30 @ 6:57 AM ET
How is it possible that you guys keep having the crappiest GMs in the league? I'm a Nucks fan and even I feel bad for you guys. Jeez
- Joinable


Lol. May have lost the fight, but the war has definetly not been settled. You still have Benning.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jun 30 @ 6:59 AM ET
There's some truth to this

I think larsson might be being underestimated pretty badly.

But aside from other moves or whstever, it shouldn't really change thst at face value, the oilers lost this trade short term.
However, I will say that I doubt nuge/ebs got it done as I'm sure they shopped first. so the alternative was to stand pat

After 6 years of bottom feeding, I dunno if that's wise

- Ihateallofu


If I'm understanding you, I think you think it's better than not doing the trade. It's not good but it's a need for the organisation to move forward - if that's correct, I agree with you 100%.

It hasn't worked till now, & if nothing happens what can possibly happen?

I think you guys need time to make other moves, fill the cap space this opens up & see how your changed team goes before calling the padded cell ward for your GM.

Like the old saying goes, 1 step back to go 2 forward!
BodyCheckRadio
Joined: 10.19.2010

Jun 30 @ 7:11 AM ET
This is one of the worst trades I can remember.

The trade could've been for rnh or ebs and it wouldn't be as bad but still lopsided.

The deal should've fetched at least Larsson, good prospect and a first (or at least 2 seconds).
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jun 30 @ 7:27 AM ET


Do we think Chiarelli was unwilling to deal within the conference? Hasn't Anaheim been looking for a winger and have a few young defenseman to spare?

Hard to believe this was the best deal out there.

Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 30 @ 7:31 AM ET
Ummm...Peter.....BAHAHAHAHAHA!

sorry oiler fans.....I feel for you.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 30 @ 7:33 AM ET
Maybe Larsson was the best offer on the table for any Oilers player?
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 30 @ 7:35 AM ET
Hmmm.

I'm not sure I see the connection here.

We were never ever going to win a cup without a true top pairing guy on the right side

We may have that now. Admittedly, I haven't see a ton of him, but I know he's got the pedigree, and just stood up to tough minutes as a top pair guy.

It's a question mark and we lost the trade on face value for sure.
But in not so sure I think we're Furthur from a cup with lucic and larsson

- Ihateallofu


You're reaching trying to justify this deal. This is your comment from a little over a week ago
No matter how much the oilers would love to have hamonic, he's just flat out not worth hall. And some mediocre add ins ain't gonna change that


Eberle or nuge on the other hand...

- Ihateallofu



rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 30 @ 7:41 AM ET
You're reaching trying to justify this deal. This is your comment from a little over a week ago
- Isles_since_6

Rekt
fattyboubatty
St Louis Blues
Location: st louis, MO
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jun 30 @ 7:42 AM ET
Count me in the minority as one who sees this move as a positive for the Oilers. They need a guy like Larsson more than they need a guy like Hall plain and simple.

Not only does this set them on the course to respectability, it sets them on a course to be a cup contender. You can't win without defense, and you just added the best D man from one of the top defensive teams in the league. They don't need a Karlsson to come in and score 80 points. All they need is for Larsson to put up around 30 to 40 and free up offensive starts for guys like Nurse and Klefbom.
lightz39
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Fernie, BC
Joined: 05.23.2011

Jun 30 @ 7:43 AM ET
This really was an awful trade. People will try and justify this and that about Larson but he just isn't any where in the realm of good enough to be traded for Hall. If you came to the leafs and asked us if we would do Morgan Rielly for Taylor Hall I would honestly have to sit there and think about it. The oilers reeked of desperation and got burnt because of it.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jun 30 @ 7:44 AM ET
Its not like the oilers were winning with hall anyway.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 30 @ 7:45 AM ET
Count me in the minority as one who sees this move as a positive for the Oilers. They need a guy like Larsson more than they need a guy like Hall plain and simple.

Not only does this set them on the course to respectability, it sets them on a course to be a cup contender. You can't win without defense, and you just added the best D man from one of the top defensive teams in the league. They don't need a Karlsson to come in and score 80 points. All they need is for Larsson to put up around 30 to 40 and free up offensive starts for guys like Nurse and Klefbom.

- fattyboubatty

This is true. Obviously the Oilers would have rather traded Hall for a Subban or Josi or Ekblad or Seth Jones...but those players just aren't available in this market. Larsson is the next best thing. A very young NHL veteran with a top pairing ceiling and a cap friendly contract.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 30 @ 7:45 AM ET
This really was an awful trade. People will try and justify this and that about Larson but he just isn't any where in the realm of good enough to be traded for Hall. If you came to the leafs and asked us if we would do Morgan Rielly for Taylor Hall I would honestly have to sit there and think about it. The oilers reeked of desperation and got burnt because of it.
- lightz39

Yea but Larsson > Reilly sooo.....
brienstel
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jun 30 @ 7:47 AM ET
Yak and RNH should be the trade chips (in that order), then Eberle, then Hall.

Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 30 @ 7:49 AM ET
This was a crap blog, no surprise.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 30 @ 7:50 AM ET
This is true. Obviously the Oilers would have rather traded Hall for a Subban or Josi or Ekblad or Seth Jones...but those players just aren't available in this market. Larsson is the next best thing. A very young NHL veteran with a top pairing ceiling and a cap friendly contract.
- rangerdanger94

That's kinda how I feel.

Unless a better deal was turned down, this is the price.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 30 @ 7:52 AM ET
This is one of the worst trades I can remember.

The trade could've been for rnh or ebs and it wouldn't be as bad but still lopsided.

The deal should've fetched at least Larsson, good prospect and a first (or at least 2 seconds).

- BodyCheckRadio

How can know any of this? Did it work for you on XBOX?
lightz39
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Fernie, BC
Joined: 05.23.2011

Jun 30 @ 7:54 AM ET
Yea but Larsson > Reilly sooo.....
- rangerdanger94

Funny guy is funny.
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