Give Larsson some time to grow. He's going to be really good, and really good for the culture of the oilers. He will teach all the young kids on D the way its done. I'd say he's even future Vezina trophy winner. Oilers got their number #1 Dman. They gave up a great player in return but it had to be done.
- Deadmau55

He's a great goalie, I agree.

Give Larsson some time to grow. He's going to be really good, and really good for the culture of the oilers. He will teach all the young kids on D the way its done. I'd say he's even future Vezina trophy winner. Oilers got their number #1 Dman. They gave up a great player in return but it had to be done.
- Deadmau55

Assuming you meant Norris, do you remember the last time that was said about an Oiler ...?

He's a great goalie, I agree.
- ursisterisabomb

I apologize. I meant the Norris. My mistake. But I still stand by what I said, Devils win now, Oilers win later

I don't think it was a great trade but there's definitely some logic behind it. I definitely got the sense last year that Hall wanted the Oilers to be his team and the Oilers wanted it to be McDavid's. They desperately needed a defenceman and Larsson was probably the best one they had available to them. I don't think Lucic is anywhere close to the player Hall is but if they're sure he's going to sign in Edmonton, the skill sets of Lucic and Larsson compliment the rest of their team better than Hall does. I think they actually are a better team with Larsson and Lucic than they are with Hall. That being said it's still crazy the they weren't able to at least get a second round pick out of the Devils.

Aside from a transition to goaltending, what else does your crystal ball foretell?
- MaximumBone

He plays D and goalie ???

Big if true

Assuming you meant Norris, do you remember the last time that was said about an Oiler ...?
- ursisterisabomb

I can't say that I do, but last time isn't today.

I dunno, call it a gut feeling. But I really believe people will look back on this in a few years time and change their minds about who fleeced who. Like I said, Hall is really good. But adam larsson is going to be something else, you mark my words.

Larsson. 23 years old, 6'3", 205 lbs. 274 games of NHL regular season experience. Just scratching the surface of his potential & a year & a 1/2 from being fully developed. Has never been deployed in an offensive role. Finished 18th for all Dman in the NHL last year in hits, so much for not good in the corners, 24th for blocked shots by all Dman in the NHL, 45th for TOI/GP by NHL Dman in the entire NHL. Great skater, solid transitional Dman, with great size, just starting to put it all together.

If I were an Edmonton fan I thank my lucky stars NJ was even willing to move this type of asset,.

Can't wait for most of you to choke on your Red Bull; your to young to drink legally, when Larsson helps Edmonton make the playoffs.
- striker777

Ya, keep telling yourself that!

On the bright side, our D is no longer the worst in the league. Much closer to middle of the pack now. New Jersey might have fast tracked themselves to the bottom.

Greene- Severson
Moore- Schlemko
Merrill (?)- Santini

That may be worse than ours was the past two years

There's a poop storm brewing fellas.....it's called Tanner's blog tomorrow.

Title: Worst Trade in NHL History

On the bright side, our D is no longer the worst in the league. Much closer to middle of the pack now. New Jersey might have fast tracked themselves to the bottom.

Greene- Severson
Moore- Schlemko
Merrill (?)- Santini

That may be worse than ours was the past two years
- MaximumBone

Lets say no more trades are made....are a healthy McDavid Nuge Ebs and Lucic enough to make up for the loss of Hall?And by healthy I mean at least 70 games which might be laughable for 2 on that list

On the bright side, our D is no longer the worst in the league. Much closer to middle of the pack now. New Jersey might have fast tracked themselves to the bottom.

Greene- Severson
Moore- Schlemko
Merrill (?)- Santini

That may be worse than ours was the past two years
- MaximumBone

You can do that when you have a Cory Schnieder

Lets say no more trades are made....are a healthy McDavid Nuge Ebs and Lucic enough to make up for the loss of Hall?And by healthy I mean at least 70 games which might be laughable for 2 on that list
- RatedR80

My opinion: get Ebs and Yak out and get rid of this poor accountability culture fully since Hall is gone too. no half measures. McDavid and Nurses team from there on.

My opinion: get Ebs and Yak out and get rid of this poor accountability culture fully since Hall is gone too. no half measures. McDavid and Nurses team from there on.
- fry

So rebuild the rebuild ?

If I'm an Oilers fan I'm happy with the deal. The GM had a target for what he thought the team needed to get out of the basement and actually winning, and did what he had to do to make it happen. It might sting, it might be a slight overpayment, but in the end he has a plan and is putting the plan in place. Will it work? Nobody can say, but he has a plan and he's proactively making things happen which is all you can really ask. I think it's a great move for the Oilers.

How is it possible that you guys keep having the crappiest GMs in the league? I'm a Nucks fan and even I feel bad for you guys. Jeez

I can't say that I do, but last time isn't today.

I dunno, call it a gut feeling. But I really believe people will look back on this in a few years time and change their minds about who fleeced who. Like I said, Hall is really good. But adam larsson is going to be something else, you mark my words.
- Deadmau55

you were actually being serious with your comment and not trolling with the history of MacT calling Jultz a future Norris winner?

Lets say no more trades are made....are a healthy McDavid Nuge Ebs and Lucic enough to make up for the loss of Hall?And by healthy I mean at least 70 games which might be laughable for 2 on that list
- RatedR80

Making up for Hall's offense is a job for the entire team. I've said it before, I'll say it again, and I'll keep saying it; the second biggest problem on the roster behind the D has always been a lack of scoring-capable depth forwards. That's the next step to address and to mold this team in the right direction.

I think Hall's 70 points can be replaced in large part by an addition like Lucic (50P) along with a full season of McDavid (40P on top of his production this year). Injuries will still happen, though, which is bound to lead to more offense lost. This is where the depth comes in. If they can add one of Connolly or Pirri through FA and one of Jurco or G Bourque through trade, I think the team comes out like this (assuming one of Lucic or Eriksson):

UFA* (6)- McDavid (3.775)- Jurco** (1) = 10.78
Maroon (1.5)- Leon (3.4)- Eberle (6) = 11.9
Pouliot (4)- RNH (6)- Connolly* (1.5) = 11.5
Korpse (2.5)- Letestu (1.8)- Hendricks (1.8) = 6.1
McNeill**, Pakarinen
PUJU, Caggiula, Khaira, and Slepy in the AHL

Klefbom (4.615)- Larsson (4.165) = 8.7
Sekera (5.5)- Fayne (3.6) = 9.1
Davidson (1.4)- Redmond* (1.1) = 2.5
Oesterle, Paliotta*
Reinhart, Nurse, and Simpson in the AHL

Talbot (4.1)
Montoya* (1.7)
Brossoit, Ellis, and Laruikainen in the AHL

* denotes FA pickup
** denotes trade pickup (ideally for picks, prospects, or Yak)

Maybe I'm biased, but that's some really solid depth that sets the team up well both next year and into the future. If PUJU unequivocally earns a spot, then we can make room, but I'd prefer him in the AHL for at least 15-20 games first regardless. I added 5mil to my estimates to cover bonuses and whatnot and still only came out to around 69mil for that roster.

You can do that when you have a Cory Schnieder
- Redmile247

We'll see. That's a horrible D corps.

Making up for Hall's offense is a job for the entire team. I've said it before, I'll say it again, and I'll keep saying it; the second biggest problem on the roster behind the D has always been a lack of scoring-capable depth forwards. That's the next step to address and to mold this team in the right direction.

I think Hall's 70 points can be replaced in large part by an addition like Lucic (50P) along with a full season of McDavid (40P on top of his production this year). Injuries will still happen, though, which is bound to lead to more offense lost. This is where the depth comes in. If they can add one of Connolly or Pirri through FA and one of Jurco or G Bourque through trade, I think the team comes out like this (assuming one of Lucic or Eriksson):

UFA* (6)- McDavid (ELC)- Jurco** (1) = 9.5
Maroon (1.5)- Leon (ELC)- Eberle (6) = 9.5
Pouliot (4)- RNH (6)- Connolly* (1.5) = 11.5
Korpse (2.5)- Letestu (1.8)- Hendricks (1.8) = 6.1
McNeill**, Pakarinen
PUJU, Caggiula, Khaira, and Slepy in the AHL

Klefbom (4.615)- Larsson (4.165) = 8.7
Sekera (5.5)- Fayne (3.6) = 9.1
Davidson (1.4)- Redmond* (1.1) = 2.5
Oesterle, Paliotta*
Reinhart, Nurse, and Simpson in the AHL

Talbot (4.1)
Montoya* (1.7)
Brossoit, Ellis, and Laruikainen in the AHL

* denotes FA pickup
** denotes trade pickup (ideally for picks, prospects, or Yak)

Maybe I'm biased, but that's some really solid depth that sets the team up well both next year and into the future. If PUJU unequivocally earns a spot, then we can make room, but I'd prefer him in the AHL for at least 15-20 games first regardless. I added 5mil to my estimates to cover bonuses and whatnot and still only came out to 66.9mil for that roster.
- MaximumBone

(frank), I did it again...

you were actually being serious with your comment and not trolling with the history of MacT calling Jultz a future Norris winner?
- oiljapan

I believe Adam Larsson will win a Norris one day. No, I wasn't trolling.

Late to the party here with a definite case of the sads losing Hall... But like others have stated here- Chia had to pay- and we all female doged when nothing was done- Chia proved he had stones to do something... Today we may have lost the trade but down the road- likely a different story cause the goal is to improve the team... One thing is certain- we are dramatically moving away from the finesse team that got pounded night in and night out... This team will not be pushed around as easily and that starts this upcoming season...

As far as the expansion draft, I guess we'll protect, Leon, Nuge, Eberle, Lucic (if he signs), Larsson, Klefbom, Sekera, Davidson/Pouliot/other, and Talbot. Solid core with McDavid, PUJU, and Nurse as well as a solid prospect pool. I'm glad I got ahead of myself a few weeks back and prepared my mind for trading anyone except McDavid or Klefbom

Larsson's also 23, Swedish, and has played on an offensively inept team with minimal PP time. His true value remains to be seen which is a big part of the deal.
- MaximumBone

That's right. He's 23. An age where most top end defensemen are producing at a much higher rate than he is. And on an offensively inept team, his skills didn't warrant him getting much powerplay time.

My opinion: get Ebs and Yak out and get rid of this poor accountability culture fully since Hall is gone too. no half measures. McDavid and Nurses team from there on.
- fry

I suppose it will be argued that Hall was the symbol of the "rebuild" since he was the first player taken in that era...new arena... new culture....fresh start...I can see this being spun sooner or later

Making up for Hall's offense is a job for the entire team. I've said it before, I'll say it again, and I'll keep saying it; the second biggest problem on the roster behind the D has always been a lack of scoring-capable depth forwards. That's the next step to address and to mold this team in the right direction.

I think Hall's 70 points can be replaced in large part by an addition like Lucic (50P) along with a full season of McDavid (40P on top of his production this year). Injuries will still happen, though, which is bound to lead to more offense lost. This is where the depth comes in. If they can add one of Connolly or Pirri through FA and one of Jurco or G Bourque through trade, I think the team comes out like this (assuming one of Lucic or Eriksson):

UFA* (6)- McDavid (3.775)- Jurco** (1) = 10.78
Maroon (1.5)- Leon (3.4)- Eberle (6) = 11.9
Pouliot (4)- RNH (6)- Connolly* (1.5) = 11.5
Korpse (2.5)- Letestu (1.8)- Hendricks (1.8) = 6.1
McNeill**, Pakarinen
PUJU, Caggiula, Khaira, and Slepy in the AHL

Klefbom (4.615)- Larsson (4.165) = 8.7
Sekera (5.5)- Fayne (3.6) = 9.1
Davidson (1.4)- Redmond* (1.1) = 2.5
Oesterle, Paliotta*
Reinhart, Nurse, and Simpson in the AHL

Talbot (4.1)
Montoya* (1.7)
Brossoit, Ellis, and Laruikainen in the AHL

* denotes FA pickup
** denotes trade pickup (ideally for picks, prospects, or Yak)

Maybe I'm biased, but that's some really solid depth that sets the team up well both next year and into the future. If PUJU unequivocally earns a spot, then we can make room, but I'd prefer him in the AHL for at least 15-20 games first regardless. I added 5mil to my estimates to cover bonuses and whatnot and still only came out to around 69mil for that roster.
- MaximumBone

I honestly dont think he pulls the trigger on the Hall trade without having someone to put into that spot so I can only assume Lucic is an Oiler as of Friday...I see you didnt have Demers on your list are you thinking he doesnt sign after all?....Also perhaps PC isnt done yet maybe he makes another deal or two before its all set and done