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Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Jun 30 @ 1:05 AM ET
Does he at least have a trophy wife? I will do that if Calgary misses and Edmonton makes it.
- FLflames34


Hah dunno. We can put this on the back burner. Hope is lost by late November for the Oil. Could place a bet then. Lol
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Jun 30 @ 1:05 AM ET
So having another top-3 Dman won't help our transition game which has unequivocally been among our biggest problems in creating offense? Sorry, that's where you lose me.
- MaximumBone

Considering his starts, pp time , competition, I'm not too concerned about his point totals

But the big one is his ability to break the forecheck and move the puck to the offence.
If he can do that on a regular basis, and pair him with klefbom, we might very well be a much better team
FrozenIce
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sarnia, ON
Joined: 06.30.2016

Jun 30 @ 1:06 AM ET
I feel bad oiler fans, must make you sick to see such an elite player moved out for so little in return. I'm kind of thinking Subban for Hall would of made more sense for both the Habs and Oilers. Even if the oil sign luchic I still think Hall is better than both he and larsson. Sucks to see homegrown talent traded away.
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Jun 30 @ 1:06 AM ET
I wonder how Larsson adapts to playing on a team with many notoriously bad back-checkers.
- Ned_Wrecks


*atleast one less notoriously bad backchecker compared to last year

MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 30 @ 1:07 AM ET
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Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Jun 30 @ 1:11 AM ET
I feel bad oiler fans, must make you sick to see such an elite player moved out for so little in return. I'm kind of thinking Subban for Hall would of made more sense for both the Habs and Oilers. Even if the oil sign luchic I still think Hall is better than both he and larsson. Sucks to see homegrown talent traded away.
- FrozenIce


Which Kessel trade hurt more? Had to be the Seguin/Dougie one.
H8terade
Joined: 06.20.2014

Jun 30 @ 1:14 AM ET
He was traded just a few months ago. We could have done it then.
- Iggysbff


Except that Nashville wanted a Center. You know, a position that holds more value.

Everyone on here thinks Hall is amazing, and yet where is he on the World Cup roster? He couldn't beat out guys like Thornton, Giroux, Duchene, Marchand, and Carter.

He's a good winger. But not a player who elevates the game of others around him.




Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 30 @ 1:17 AM ET
We MAY have that now? May? Thats a big issue. Trading our best trade chip for another Maybe.
- Iggysbff


If you can sign lucic then yor team is better..

Chia got pumped hard and dry.
Larson should pan out way better then Gudbranson ever will, but hall is an elite star. No way should this trade have happened.

I'd go so far as to say that Tanev is better then Larson, no way do you trade Taylor fricken hall for Tanev. Or for Gudbranson And a first round pick.
You might get a Larson for a guddy and a first.

I don't get it, I wonder if hall was offered for hamonic during the season.

Anyways is a head shaker. I'm not trolling I am genuinely head blown.

Only way this pans out is if you can land lucic and demers.

Even then, Taylor (frank)ing hall...
dcz28
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 08.20.2006

Jun 30 @ 1:20 AM ET
I think the Oilers got Roman Hamrlik again. Not saying Larsson plays similar to him just that I think his career will be similar in terms of achieving the potential he had when drafted. I don't think he will be the stud they needed especially giving how much they gave up to get him compared to Hamrlik.

flashfire
Joined: 10.02.2006

Jun 30 @ 1:20 AM ET
do people seriously still think the Oilers have been a high powered offense that has just given up too many goals? They gave up too many goals and have struggled to score for years. I don't see how trading their 2 best scorer for a good dman helps the team.

move had to be made...but not this move IMO
woopstash
Los Angeles Kings
Location: "Rielly and Gardiner will be the next Keith and Seabrook."
Joined: 02.22.2011

Jun 30 @ 1:21 AM ET


Very weird, confusing and all around terrible trade for the Oilers. Hall is so good. Why?.... Just... Why?
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 30 @ 1:21 AM ET
Jesus, bunch of Mensa members for trolls these days.

MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 30 @ 1:24 AM ET
If you can sign lucic then yor team is better..

Chia got pumped hard and dry.
Larson should plan out way better then Gudbranson ever will, but hall is an elite star. No way should this trade have happened.

I'd go so far add to say that Tanev is better then Larson, no way do you trade Taylor fricken hall for Tanev. Or for Gudbranson And a first round pick.
You might get a Larson for a guddy and a first.

I don't get it, I wonder if hall was offered for hamonic during the season.

Anyways is a head shaker. I'm not trolling I am genuinely head blown.

Only way this pans out is if you can land lucic and demers.

Even then, Taylor (frank)ing hall...

- Pres.cup

Larsson's also 23, Swedish, and has played on an offensively inept team with minimal PP time. His true value remains to be seen which is a big part of the deal.
flashfire
Joined: 10.02.2006

Jun 30 @ 1:24 AM ET
Jesus, bunch of Mensa members for trolls these days.
- Iggysbff


26th in goals for were the Oilers last season...their high end offense is a myth
flashfire
Joined: 10.02.2006

Jun 30 @ 1:26 AM ET
Larsson's also 23, Swedish, and has played on an offensively inept team with minimal PP time. His true value remains to be seen which is a big part of the deal.
- MaximumBone


Oilers were slightly better offensively (26th vs. 30th)...and now lost their top scorer from last season
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Jun 30 @ 1:26 AM ET
Except that Nashville wanted a Center. You know, a position that holds more value.

Everyone on here thinks Hall is amazing, and yet where is he on the World Cup roster? He couldn't beat out guys like Thornton, Giroux, Duchene, Marchand, and Carter.

He's a good winger. But not a player who elevates the game of others around him.

- H8terade

So draisaitls precipitous drop off without hall was just a coincidence ?
Purcells big numbers alongside him that basically facilitated interest to trade for teddy were just coincidence?



Brodie didn't make it. Neither did Giordano. Kessel didn't make his team. Neither did shattenkirk.
Don't play the 'infallible gm' card. They make errors and poor choices all the time.

Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Jun 30 @ 1:28 AM ET
do people seriously still think the Oilers have been a high powered offense that has just given up too many goals? They gave up too many goals and have struggled to score for years. I don't see how trading their 2 best scorer for a good dman helps the team.

move had to be made...but not this move IMO

- flashfire

A defencemen cracking the forecheck and Moving the puck into transition is their biggest weakness. Especially a right handed one

Dude, the semantics thing is more your bag, not actual specifics and details of what ails the oilers
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 30 @ 1:30 AM ET
do people seriously still think the Oilers have been a high powered offense that has just given up too many goals? They gave up too many goals and have struggled to score for years. I don't see how trading their 2 best scorer for a good dman helps the team.

move had to be made...but not this move IMO

- flashfire

Reinforcing the backend will help lower GA and reinforcing it with puck movers and puck carriers will further improve the offense. The impact a strong D has on the production of forwards can't be understated. Same goes for forward depth. Add some forward depth with players who can actually score beyond Letestu in the bottom-6. Guys like Connolly, Pirri, Stempniak, and Jurco could be great adds for relatively cheap.

Aside from that, a full year of McDavid and a step forward on the PP will do wonders.
flashfire
Joined: 10.02.2006

Jun 30 @ 1:31 AM ET
Just saying...people seem to think the oilers have some high powered offence, they don't. Losing Hall I would bet everything I own they are in the bottom third for goal scoring again this season.
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jun 30 @ 1:33 AM ET
Just finished a whole bottle of CR for you guys
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Jun 30 @ 1:33 AM ET
Reinforcing the backend will help lower GA and reinforcing it with puck movers and puck carriers will further improve the offense. The impact a strong D has on the production of forwards can't be understated. Same goes for forward depth. Add some forward depth with players who can actually score beyond Letestu in the bottom-6. Guys like Connolly, Pirri, Stempniak, and Jurco could be great adds for relatively cheap.

Aside from that, a full year of McDavid and a step forward on the PP will do wonders.

- MaximumBone

This is the nhl now

MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 30 @ 1:33 AM ET
I'm gonna sound like a wienerhead, but I'd prefer Eriksson to Lucic
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 30 @ 1:34 AM ET
Just saying...people seem to think the oilers have some high powered offence, they don't. Losing Hall I would bet everything I own they are in the bottom third for goal scoring again this season.
- flashfire

See my post above.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 30 @ 1:34 AM ET
Reinforcing the backend will help lower GA and reinforcing it with puck movers and puck carriers will further improve the offense. The impact a strong D has on the production of forwards can't be understated. Same goes for forward depth. Add some forward depth with players who can actually score beyond Letestu in the bottom-6. Guys like Connolly, Pirri, Stempniak, and Jurco could be great adds for relatively cheap.

Aside from that, a full year of McDavid and a step forward on the PP will do wonders.

- MaximumBone



I'll trade you Benning for chia and McDavid
flashfire
Joined: 10.02.2006

Jun 30 @ 1:36 AM ET
See my post above.
- MaximumBone


I saw it, not sure where the puck moving d-men are coming from...your comment on Sempniak I agree with

Oilers will struggle to score this season big time though IMO
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