Marc Bergevin is a horrible GM. Peter Chiarelli is a pathetic GM. And Stamkos is a bigger idiot.

Marc Bergevin is a horrible GM. Peter Chiarelli is a pathetic GM. And Stamkos is a bigger idiot.
- isitin

yeah stammer is an idiot to not sign with a loosing team, the LEAFS !

Hey Habs fans. how's things?

How do you feel about the offseason so far?
- prock

weeee

Yup, this trade is really making me question being a Habs fan. I can't believe a human could be so (frank)ing stupid as our pile of dog poop gm. He's got the traditional hard work modest cliche spewing automaton mantra for a hockey player along with Michelle Therrien so far up his ass that he can't tolerate a hockey player who chooses to be different from the norm. Congrats Nashville, you crushed us in this trade.
- apex123

Nope! This is a good trade, maybe not what you wanted in return ( top 3 or 6 offensive player ) but still a good trade. Too many Hab fans are star bitten with PK, love how he makes them feel, but in reality was not going to be a leader on this team. Maybe he will be able to pull it off somewhere else, but it wasn't going to happen in Montreal. His hype is greater than his contribution, this is a team sport and we need team players. I wish him all the luck, now MB go get a top 6 forward.

Horrible trade for habs subban has quite a few years of elite in him weber not so much totally different styles...not staying weber isn't good, just don't think he fits the habs style of skill and speed

Horrible trade for habs subban has quite a few years of elite in him weber not so much totally different styles...not staying weber isn't good, just don't think he fits the habs style of skill and speed
- arnpriorguy

Great deal for Montreal

Nope! This is a good trade, maybe not what you wanted in return ( top 3 or 6 offensive player ) but still a good trade. Too many Hab fans are star bitten with PK, love how he makes them feel, but in reality was not going to be a leader on this team. Maybe he will be able to pull it off somewhere else, but it wasn't going to happen in Montreal. His hype is greater than his contribution, this is a team sport and we need team players. I wish him all the luck, now MB go get a top 6 forward.
- Slimvinnie

No, if they were trading a defenseman I'd definitely want someone back to take the #1 Dmen minutes. The reason I despise this deal is Weber's age and the contract. Given Weber's age, the most we're likely going to get out of him is 3-4 quality years. Granted he might not totally suck after, but Subban will certainly be far better at that point in his prime. Then there's his contract which goes until he's 40 or so. The last 4 or 5 years are likely to be another Scott Gomez situation. Finally even right now, it's debateable who is better: point totals and possesion stats favour Subban. Also this isn't bias. If Weber was 28 and not signed for another 10 years I'd be fine with this deal.

Great deal for Montreal
- obie

Say that in 3 yrs if not less

Say that in 3 yrs if not less
- arnpriorguy

Weber is top 3 in the NHL today, he won't be falling off the face of the earth in 3 seasons

Weber is top 3 in the NHL today, he won't be falling off the face of the earth in 3 seasons
- obie

Some have already said he has lost a step or two from playing 40 mins a game for 10 yrs...great leader and veteran much needed qualities on any team but just don't see him being the offensively dormant dman that subban is

No, if they were trading a defenseman I'd definitely want someone back to take the #1 Dmen minutes. The reason I despise this deal is Weber's age and the contract. Given Weber's age, the most we're likely going to get out of him is 3-4 quality years. Granted he might not totally suck after, but Subban will certainly be far better at that point in his prime. Then there's his contract which goes until he's 40 or so. The last 4 or 5 years are likely to be another Scott Gomez situation. Finally even right now, it's debateable who is better: point totals and possesion stats favour Subban. Also this isn't bias. If Weber was 28 and not signed for another 10 years I'd be fine with this deal.
- apex123

I get where you are coming from, but you are assuming that Weber will decline in a few years and that PK is going to get better. It's about the team getting better and I think that is what MB is trying to do with this trade. I have hired and fired a lot of employees in my life, seen some real stallions, but some didn't make the company better. It's all about opinions at this point, it took a lot of courage for MB to pull the trigger, I bet that he has earned a lot of respect in the dressing room and around the league for today and tomorrow.

Some have already said he has lost a step or two from playing 40 mins a game for 10 yrs...great leader and veteran much needed qualities on any team but just don't see him being the offensively dormant dman that subban is
- arnpriorguy

20 goals, finished 9th in Norris votes and was one of the 1st players named to team Canada... not bad for a guy who's lost a step or 2

20 goals, finished 9th in Norris votes and was one of the 1st players named to team Canada... not bad for a guy who's lost a step or 2
- obie

Look at who has been playing with for those ten yrs suter and then jussi...subban had garbage for a partner for the last few yrs just saying

Look at who has been playing with for those ten yrs suter and then jussi...subban had garbage for a partner for the last few yrs just saying
- arnpriorguy

Oh so Suter and Josi made Weber what he is... I get it now

This deal will go down with the Chris Chelios and Patrick Roy deals as being among the worst in team history. I can't even put into words how ticked off I am at the team right now. This was a big "F U" to the fans.

There's more to this than talent, his teammates hated him. It's an addition by substraction, heck the team even played better after he got injured. We got better for a few seasons (maybe not) and we gain a mentor for guys like Sergachev, Beaulieu.

Bergevin tried to get a package from Edmonton, when they they moved Hall he responded with the Nashville trade.

Oh so Suter and Josi made Weber what he is... I get it now
- obie

U need a good partner in a team game unless ur elit..don't get me wrong weber is good just not as offensively gifted as subban, karlsson ect..
.those two can take over a game weber not so much

U need a good partner in a team game unless ur elit..don't get me wrong weber is good just not as offensively gifted as subban, karlsson ect..
.those two can take over a game weber not so much
- arnpriorguy

Subban being more offensively gifted does not make him a better player than Weber

This deal will go down with the Chris Chelios and Patrick Roy deals as being among the worst in team history. I can't even put into words how ticked off I am at the team right now. This was a big "F U" to the fans.
- isirota1965

Not even close

There's more to this than talent, his teammates hated him. It's an addition by substraction, heck the team even played better after he got injured. We got better for a few seasons (maybe not) and we gain a mentor for guys like Sergachev, Beaulieu.

Bergevin tried to get a package from Edmonton, when they they moved Hall he responded with the Nashville trade.
- J-P

This is what I've been saying. The win for MTL was trading away Subban. The icing on the cake was to get a guy like Weber. When you trade for the same position in this case it's being done for a culture change. Not comparing the trade but Umberger for Hartnell was the same reason. Flyers just hoped Umberger wasn't gonna be so poopty
R

Weber is top 3 in the NHL today, he won't be falling off the face of the earth in 3 seasons
- obie[/quote

Weber has a cap hit of 8 million until he is 40...that is a serious problem.

[quote=obie]Weber is top 3 in the NHL today, he won't be falling off the face of the earth in 3 seasons
- Santo_44[/quote

Weber has a cap hit of 8 million until he is 40...that is a serious problem.

But can be bought out of the back half of it for next to nothing as his yearly salary will be at around a million bucks in 5 years

yeah stammer is an idiot to not sign with a loosing team, the LEAFS !
- Zo0by

When the Leafs are way ahead of you loser Habs team in the standings next season, you will remember this moment in time.

Subban being more offensively gifted does not make him a better player than Weber
- obie

In today's nhl absolutely does...last 4 Norris winners all offensive minded defenseman...the role is changing yes weber has been nominated but whens the last time he won? I see where ur going with this but stats and not numbers don't lie

Great deal for Montreal
- obie

Great deal????. That was the worst trade in history.