I'm surprised to see so mich love from a sens fan, every one of your kind i met think subban is a dirty piece of ****.

The trade is good for both Teams. Montreal gets rid of their wanna be superstar who cant even crack team canadas D, while they get a veteran like weber who still has at least 5 more years of very good hockey left with a front loaded contract which nashville already paid most of. A natural leader who plays mean and tough, and has arguably the hardest slap shot in the NHL.

NAS gets a guy who will sell tickets, sell jerseys and be flashy to attract people to the rink during the regular season. But will he be a distraction? Will he be as effective out west? that remains to be seen. He for sure will put up points on the board though.

In the end its win win.

UNLIKE THE NJ/EDM trade. holy smokes..
- Markiz

I hated the guy but gotta respect his talent there's no doubt it

I hated the guy but gotta respect his talent there's no doubt it
- arnpriorguy

There's gotta be more on the weber side tho...if he retires the preds take the hit not the habs...that's why I believe they thought he couldn't get over the hill and into a cup final...with subban I think they can

I hated the guy but gotta respect his talent there's no doubt it
- arnpriorguy

See you prove my point. everyone hates him... even his own teammates! He does a lot of good for communities and everything and he has my respect for that. But The fact is he was a cancer in the locker room.

That being said, his talent is undeniable. Fa rmore talent than Weber for sure.

See you prove my point. everyone hates him... even his own teammates! He does a lot of good for communities and everything and he has my respect for that. But The fact is he was a cancer in the locker room.

That being said, his talent is undeniable. Fa rmore talent than Weber for sure.
- Markiz

Raw talent is not the only determining factor though

Raw talent is not the only determining factor though
- obie

exactly. And right now I'm happy to have Weber over PK.

I remember 2 years ago when PK signed his contract how everyone was laughing at us Habs fans because of how overpaid he was...

Cap did not go up last year, did not go up this year, doesn't have a chance in hell of going up next year either... yet somehow this overpaid defenseman is now desirable for some reason?

He won't even be the best defenseman on his new team... with a cap hit of 5 million dollars more than the guy who will be (who is also signed through the next four years).

I was happy 2 years ago when they signed him to that contract. I believed he was worth every penny, and he is from a business standpoint. Last year I wanted him to be named captain, he is their best player, he is on the ice half the game and more often than not the puck is on his stick.

But for me this year he failed. I didn't doubt the effort, but the results were not there. The year they needed him most with the injury to Carey Price, he didn't produce. He demanded his contract from the organisation, over 12% of the salary cap goes to this one player, the team should not have missed the playoffs.

You want to blame the coach and the GM, but PK does what he wants on the ice. He is on the ice for more than half the game, full 2-minute power plays. He is given the ice time to be what he wants to be, yet the team was really bad this year.

I never thought they would trade him only because you never get fair value for a guy who is that talented.

Habs did not get fair value for the player they gave up on. But the team might play better anyway. It showed this year that he's not that important to this team.

exactly. And right now I'm happy to have Weber over PK.
- Markiz

I am too!

See you prove my point. everyone hates him... even his own teammates! He does a lot of good for communities and everything and he has my respect for that. But The fact is he was a cancer in the locker room.

That being said, his talent is undeniable. Fa rmore talent than Weber for sure.
- Markiz

I can understand that statement...I've heard it before,had similar issues with spezza when he was here

I remember 2 years ago when PK signed his contract how everyone was laughing at us Habs fans because of how overpaid he was...

Cap did not go up last year, did not go up this year, doesn't have a chance in hell of going up next year either... yet somehow this overpaid defenseman is now desirable for some reason?

He won't even be the best defenseman on his new team... with a cap hit of 5 million dollars more than the guy who will be (who is also signed through the next four years).

I was happy 2 years ago when they signed him to that contract. I believed he was worth every penny, and he is from a business standpoint. Last year I wanted him to be named captain, he is their best player, he is on the ice half the game and more often than not the puck is on his stick.

But for me this year he failed. I didn't doubt the effort, but the results were not there. The year they needed him most with the injury to Carey Price, he didn't produce. He demanded his contract from the organisation, over 12% of the salary cap goes to this one player, the team should not have missed the playoffs.

You want to blame the coach and the GM, but PK does what he wants on the ice. He is on the ice for more than half the game, full 2-minute power plays. He is given the ice time to be what he wants to be, yet the team was really bad this year.

I never thought they would trade him only because you never get fair value for a guy who is that talented.

Habs did not get fair value for the player they gave up on. But the team might play better anyway. It showed this year that he's not that important to this team.
- peter2679

good read. agree.

I remember 2 years ago when PK signed his contract how everyone was laughing at us Habs fans because of how overpaid he was...

Cap did not go up last year, did not go up this year, doesn't have a chance in hell of going up next year either... yet somehow this overpaid defenseman is now desirable for some reason?

He won't even be the best defenseman on his new team... with a cap hit of 5 million dollars more than the guy who will be (who is also signed through the next four years).

I was happy 2 years ago when they signed him to that contract. I believed he was worth every penny, and he is from a business standpoint. Last year I wanted him to be named captain, he is their best player, he is on the ice half the game and more often than not the puck is on his stick.

But for me this year he failed. I didn't doubt the effort, but the results were not there. The year they needed him most with the injury to Carey Price, he didn't produce. He demanded his contract from the organisation, over 12% of the salary cap goes to this one player, the team should not have missed the playoffs.

You want to blame the coach and the GM, but PK does what he wants on the ice. He is on the ice for more than half the game, full 2-minute power plays. He is given the ice time to be what he wants to be, yet the team was really bad this year.

I never thought they would trade him only because you never get fair value for a guy who is that talented.

Habs did not get fair value for the player they gave up on. But the team might play better anyway. It showed this year that he's not that important to this team.
- peter2679

I think the whole team gave up tbh...weber is a good culture change but a very expensive one

I think the whole team gave up tbh...weber is a good culture change but a very expensive one
- arnpriorguy

But cheaper than the culture they were trying to move away from

But cheaper than the culture they were trying to move away from
- obie

Not really very similar cap hit...longer term yes the actual dollars are much cheaper but the cap hit never changes... so in reality different player same money

Not really very similar cap hit...longer term yes the actual dollars are much cheaper but the cap hit never changes... so in reality different player same money
- arnpriorguy

Habs will buy out Weber for next to nothing in 6 years

Habs will buy out Weber for next to nothing in 6 years
- obie

Not true at all it's a percentage of the cap hit and remaining yrs...only way they get off the hook is if he retires then the penalty goes to the preds it was mentioned today on tsn

Habs will buy out Weber for next to nothing in 6 years
- obie

Actually dollars and the cap hit can very different the actual money the habs r saving is great but the cap hit remains part of the new CBA

Not true at all it's a percentage of the cap hit and remaining yrs...only way they get off the hook is if he retires then the penalty goes to the preds it was mentioned today on tsn
- arnpriorguy

The CBA says different...I'm sure the NHL will go with that over what Craig Button says when the time comes

The CBA says different...I'm sure the NHL will go with that over what Craig Button says when the time comes
- obie

Umm no it doesn't....it's cap circumvention if it changes only the actual dollars going to the player can change the cap hit remains not matter what why do think Detroit traded Datsuk to the yotes they didn't want to buy him out and take the cap hit over whatever amount of yrs

Umm no it doesn't....it's cap circumvention if it changes only the actual dollars going to the player can change the cap hit remains not matter what why do think Detroit traded Datsuk to the yotes they didn't want to buy him out and take the cap hit over whatever amount of yrs
- arnpriorguy

They didn't buy him out cause he has 1 year left... read the differences between a buyout involving a player under 26 and one over 26, they are different

They didn't buy him out cause he has 1 year left... read the differences between a buyout involving a player under 26 and one over 26, they are different
- obie

Cap buyouts r not different when the contract is the maximum yrs allowed look it up...I know my stuff ur stuck with weber unless he retires or u trade him

Weber is top 3 in the NHL today, he won't be falling off the face of the earth in 3 seasons
- obie

Chara says hi.
- Blackstrom2

They didn't buy him out cause he has 1 year left... read the differences between a buyout involving a player under 26 and one over 26, they are different
- obie

Players under 26 r usually still rfas that's the difference any ufa contract comes with a cap penality if there is a buyout the percentage is based on the length of term left

Players under 26 r usually still rfas that's the difference any ufa contract comes with a cap penality if there is a buyout the percentage is based on the length of term left
- arnpriorguy

The buyout total for a player over 26 is based on the amount of money owed to him on his deal... not the cap hit

The buyout total for a player over 26 is based on the amount of money owed to him on his deal... not the cap hit
- obie

Sorry man ur wrong ...that's cap circumvention its cap hit based on years remaining=percentage on cap hit

See you prove my point. everyone hates him... even his own teammates! He does a lot of good for communities and everything and he has my respect for that. But The fact is he was a cancer in the locker room.

That being said, his talent is undeniable. Fa rmore talent than Weber for sure.
- Markiz

This is the first I have heard of this. Granted, as a Pens fan, I don't follow the Habs super closely, but it seems like I would have heard something about this as I follow hockey and the eastern conference teams (especially the Cup contending teams) relatively closely for being a non-fan.

I always liked PK. Pain in the ass to play against with the occasional dive and cheap shot, but I always thought the criticism of him was a bit overblown. Seems like a great guy who gives a HUGE amount of money and time to charity. Always seemed to be engaged and give full effort on the ice. Not sure if the rivalry with Boston will be the same without him.

Sorry man ur wrong ...that's cap circumvention its cap hit based on years remaining=percentage on cap hit
- arnpriorguy[/quote
If u pay a player 49 mil over 7 yrs but u pay him 42 of that in the first 5 yrs the team itself is only paying 7 mil for 2 more yrs but the cap hit never changes