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Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 29 @ 4:59 PM ET
Is this supposed to be good? Nurse won't be ready for at least another year or two.
- I_Love_Timmies

Are you really this stupid?

He asked if we needed to trade Hall because we wouldn't be able to protect him in the expansion draft. The answer was clearly no as we have plenty of spots for guys to protect.

Do they teach reading comprehension in Ottawa?
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 29 @ 4:59 PM ET
Absolutely. Played a ton of minutes on the top pair with Greene this year and killed penalties. He's a smart player with size and speed. His point totals are skewed because he couldn't exactly rack up the assist totals with the forward group NJ had and he didn't get any PP time, so there goes some points as well. He will play top pair minutes and get 40-50 points on the right side this year.

This isn't the worst trade in years, it isn't even the worse trade in the past hour, that honor belongs to Montreal.

- Mr.Bobby


IM very excited for Cowboy PK
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Jun 29 @ 5:00 PM ET
He averaged over 27 minutes a night on the top pair?
- Mr.Bobby

Same dude argued Toronto would unequivically trade the Matthews pick if they made hamonic available for it

Morons everywhere on hb.
U know this
I_Love_Timmies
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.28.2016

Jun 29 @ 5:00 PM ET
So assuming the signings;


Lucic, drausaitl, eberle
Maroon, mcdavid, yakupov
pouliot, nuge, puljujarvi
Hendricks, letestu, kassian


Klefbom, larsson
Sekera, demers
Nurse, Davidson
Fayne
Reinhart

- Ihateallofu


I don't envision them keeping Yakupov. I'd be lines look like this:

Maroon-McDavid-Eberle
Lucic-Draisaitl-Puljujarvi
Pouliot-???-Kassian
Hendricks-Letestu-Pakarinen

Klefbom-Larsson
Sekera- ???/Demers
Davidson-???/Gryba.

Talbot
???


Not mad at all. Can't see why people aren't happy with this at all. Also Stauffer just said that Edmonton isn't done and they'll be adding a RHD that plays well on the powerplay.

This will be a much better team than last year.
beingaflamesfan
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 03.07.2013

Jun 29 @ 5:00 PM ET
As crappy as this seems for you guys, i guess you've got to look at the fact that you've got a dependable defenceman. Crappy deal, but time to move on.
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Jun 29 @ 5:00 PM ET
You better hope PC doesnt sign Lucic. It'll be something stupid like 5 for 5 or more. Then it will be bought out in two years after Lucic falls off a cliff offensively. They have Maroon who played well with more minutes. No need to sign Lucic.
- mnhockeyguy

This is a bad trade for Edmonton, but everyone knew they were desperate. In the end, they filled a hole and the kid is young, has upside, and it could be fulfilled in a couple yrs. I don't like the trade, but it isn't the worst.

Lucic at 6x6 would be a grave error and far worse than this trade.
Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Jun 29 @ 5:01 PM ET
IM very excited for Cowboy PK
- DDM-Coga



Let's just hope PK doesn't go on the FatMarsh BBQ diet. That Weber contract is a nightmare, not a knock on Weber, but Preds fans have to be stoked.
Girouxsalem90
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Upstate, NY
Joined: 05.28.2013

Jun 29 @ 5:02 PM ET
He averaged over 27 minutes a night on the top pair?
- Mr.Bobby

Don't let the numbers get in the way here.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 29 @ 5:03 PM ET
Let's just hope PK doesn't go on the FatMarsh BBQ diet. That Weber contract is a nightmare, not a knock on Weber, but Preds fans have to be stoked.
- Mr.Bobby

The 6 of them are lighting candles at a vigil
Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Jun 29 @ 5:03 PM ET
This is a bad trade for Edmonton, but everyone knew they were desperate. In the end, they filled a hole and the kid is young, has upside, and it could be fulfilled in a couple yrs. I don't like the trade, but it isn't the worst.

Lucic at 6x6 would be a grave error and far worse than this trade.

- FLflames34



He's already a top pair defender and instantly becomes the best Dman the Oilers have had maybe since Pronger.
PepinoPamplemousse
Carolina Hurricanes
Joined: 01.18.2009

Jun 29 @ 5:03 PM ET
Out of curiosity, Larrson or Gudbranson?
- pker2theend


Larsson.
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 29 @ 5:03 PM ET
I'm not trying to rub it in. I'm legitimately sorry. I thought that Hall should have landed a stud like Subban or Shea Weber.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 29 @ 5:03 PM ET
Let's just hope PK doesn't go on the FatMarsh BBQ diet. That Weber contract is a nightmare, not a knock on Weber, but Preds fans have to be stoked.
- Mr.Bobby

Preds mnagement is taking a big risk hoping Weber plays out the contract. They may be on the hook for 6-7 mill in cap recapture for the last few years of the deal.
Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Jun 29 @ 5:03 PM ET
The 6 of them are lighting candles at a vigil
- AdamFrench



I'm a Devils fan, so that seems like a lot to me.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 29 @ 5:03 PM ET
Let's just hope PK doesn't go on the FatMarsh BBQ diet. That Weber contract is a nightmare, not a knock on Weber, but Preds fans have to be stoked.
- Mr.Bobby


PK (27) Josi (26)
Ellis (25) Ekholm (25)

That is a solid Top 4 and in the prime of their careers. Stupid Sexy Nashville
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Jun 29 @ 5:04 PM ET
This is a bad trade for Edmonton, but everyone knew they were desperate. In the end, they filled a hole and the kid is young, has upside, and it could be fulfilled in a couple yrs. I don't like the trade, but it isn't the worst.

Lucic at 6x6 would be a grave error and far worse than this trade.

- FLflames34


Why is signing lucic a grave error?

The argument about players breaking down is reasonable. But not fact.
Backes is the same age now as lucic will be in the 5 season of his upcoming contract.
Backes is as effective and physical as ever.
Would I've paid backes that kind of money for what he did over the last 5 years?
Absolutely

It's a gamble- but not a slam dunk mistake
I_Love_Timmies
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.28.2016

Jun 29 @ 5:05 PM ET
Are you really this stupid?

He asked if we needed to trade Hall because we wouldn't be able to protect him in the expansion draft. The answer was clearly no as we have plenty of spots for guys to protect.

Do they teach reading comprehension in Ottawa?

- Iggysbff


As it stands, yes we could've kept Hall. But:

A) Our defense (or even team) wouldn't of improved
B) Hall would be gone by the time his contract runs out.

To say that the expansion draft had no implications is just boneheaded
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Jun 29 @ 5:05 PM ET
He's already a top pair defender and instantly becomes the best Dman the Oilers have had maybe since Pronger.
- Mr.Bobby

Doesn't mean he should be. He would not be a 1D on at least 12-14 teams in the league, and probably more than that.

He certainly could grow into the role though.
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jun 29 @ 5:06 PM ET
$HIT TRADE

But I am going to stand by my addition by subtraction theory. Hall HAD to be the one to go.

I am going to go out on a limb and say the Oilers will be close to a playoff spot next year.

BOOK IT
I_Love_Timmies
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.28.2016

Jun 29 @ 5:07 PM ET
I'm not trying to rub it in. I'm legitimately sorry. I thought that Hall should have landed a stud like Subban or Shea Weber.
- Buffalo--Sabres


Stauffer made a good point, Montreal wouldn't have gotten the defense they needed if they traded Subban

Weber isn't worth his contract, that would kill Edmonton next year.
jerobrotato69
Location: Idaho no Udaho, ID
Joined: 06.29.2016

Jun 29 @ 5:08 PM ET
I am jerobrotato and I approve this trade
schrodingersCat
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 11.17.2014

Jun 29 @ 5:08 PM ET
Chiarelli really hates the 2010 draft class
Lemmewinks
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.05.2015

Jun 29 @ 5:08 PM ET
Our defense is definitely much improved right now. Losing Hall probably isn't that big of a blow to the offence if you factor in McDavid playing a full 82 games this year. Just thought trading a player of Halls caliber would improve the defence a lot more.
Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Jun 29 @ 5:08 PM ET
PK (27) Josi (26)
Ellis (25) Ekholm (25)

That is a solid Top 4 and in the prime of their careers. Stupid Sexy Nashville

- DDM-Coga



Yep, and they wiggle out of one of those previous CBA ugly contracts.
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Jun 29 @ 5:08 PM ET
Why is signing lucic a grave error?

The argument about players breaking down is reasonable. But not fact.
Backes is the same age now as lucic will be in the 5 season of his upcoming contract.
Backes is as effective and physical as ever.
Would I've paid backes that kind of money for what he did over the last 5 years?
Absolutely

It's a gamble- but not a slam dunk mistake

- Ihateallofu

You will be paying the same money as Hall (or more) for a less talented, less proficient, older player who is more likely to regress early.
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