All I can say is that Bergevin is a lying mofo and he owes Benning an apology and the Canucks $50K.
- Rocket_Launcher

Agreed.

Sportsnet Stats ‏@SNstats 8m8 minutes ago
Totals for the 5 NHL players traded / signed in the last 2 hours

1st-Team Selections: 4
Goals: 682
Points:1,680
Salary remaining: $226.5 M
- hillbillydeluxe

it's amazing. had this happened on trade deadline day, we'd be saying what a huge deadline day it was!

it's june 29 ffs.

All I can say is that Bergevin is a lying mofo and he owes Benning an apology and the Canucks $50K.
- Rocket_Launcher

^^^^
100%

trade in a vacuum sucks.

the oilers' pr will spin it as "lucic, demers and larsson for hall."

the oilers are improved short term and if they improve enough to be playoff contenders, chiarelli is betting people will forget about the hall trade or at least quiet down about it.
- RealityChecker

They probably will and a lot of dummies will be stupid enough to eat that poop up. But most people know that the trade itself did happen in a vacuum and that the Oil should have had more coming their way in a deal involving Hall/Larsson.

Yeah hey guys.....can I become a Nucks fan please?
- RatedR80

love it. It's like those "how to become Canadian" google searches.

Yeah, I don't get it.

i don't think it's a matter of "kicking in."

just a pitch that he would play for "canada's team" (puke but you know they probably said that) and that he would be the national spokesperson for canadian tire for x million (or whatever the going rate for a top spokesman.)

canadian tire would up probably spend the majority of their advertising budget around him.

let's not forget that toronto is the 5th or 6th biggest tv market in north america. they have a lot of money to throw around. it's not great from a western canadian perspective but it is nonetheless true.
- RealityChecker

Yeah, I get all that.

I was just wondering if the Leafs said something like "In order to give us the cap space to make our team better around you, would you be willing to sign for, say $7 million a season." (example $$ only) "You won't be losing money, because Canadian Tire is here to pledge that they'll spend xxx on an endorsement deal - enough to cover the difference between what you'd make here vs. TB and the tax differential, with a cherry on top."

In exchange, if the number was big enough, maybe Cdn Tire would also ask for exclusive rights to his likeness, so he wouldn't also be pitching SportChek, Tim Horton's and whatever else?

I feel like, with the Leafs inviting them to the table, Cdn Tire's role had to be bigger than just a standard (albeit substantial) sponsorship agreement.

- CanuckDon

Why am I not surprised that you think manufactured bullpoop to attack my character is funny?

Oh wait, cuz you like to do that too.

it's amazing. had this happened on trade deadline day, we'd be saying what a huge deadline day it was!

it's june 29 ffs.
- RealityChecker

I've been on the road all day. In and out of meetings. I've just walked into this poop show. I'm stunned.

Yeah you sure called me out. Good thing Marwood has internet tough guys like you here to keep him safe.

But in truth you didn't call poop out, even if it makes you feel tough saying that. I fully admitted the Oil were one of my teams and had recently passed the Habs in terms of my interest in the last few years. I also said that after I started spending more time in the Oil thread that I changed my 'fav team' away from the Habs but also that I removed it because low-level vagrants like you and sensnucksnocups (among others) seem unable to participate in the conversation at hand and choose to devolve the discussion to a 5th grade level of "my team is better than yours" which I am not interested in.
- RonPielep

you feeling ok Ronny? would you like a tissue?

Why am I not surprised that you think manufactured bullpoop to attack my character is funny?

Oh wait, cuz you like to do that too.
- RonPielep

You are a real treat Ronny. Not long until you receive a ban

you feeling ok Ronny? would you like a tissue?
- CanuckDon

A whole box please.

Yeah, I get all that.

I was just wondering if the Leafs said something like "In order to give us the cap space to make our team better around you, would you be willing to sign for, say $7 million a season." (example $$ only) "You won't be losing money, because Canadian Tire is here to pledge that they'll spend xxx on an endorsement deal - enough to cover the difference between what you'd make here vs. TB and the tax differential, with a cherry on top."

In exchange, if the number was big enough, maybe Cdn Tire would also ask for exclusive rights to his likeness, so he wouldn't also be pitching SportChek, Tim Horton's and whatever else?

I feel like, with the Leafs inviting them to the table, Cdn Tire's role had to be bigger than just a standard (albeit substantial) sponsorship agreement.
- Carol Schram

i understand the skepticism but i don't think the leafs would be a team to low ball the biggest ufa signing by trying to circumvent the cap. i'd think they'd offer him 10+m rather than go through the shenanigans.

but weirder things have happened in this league so who knows...

back to your original point: i'd love to know what was said in that pitch.

trade in a vacuum sucks.

the oilers' pr will spin it as "lucic, demers and larsson for hall."

the oilers are improved short term and if they improve enough to be playoff contenders, chiarelli is betting people will forget about the hall trade or at least quiet down about it.
- RealityChecker

I think you're spot on. Big free agency day and it hurts a whole lot less.

I like how the Devils do business. Too bad they play for New Jersey.

Does the Subban trade signal the start of a rebuild in Montreal? Subban and Weber are not similar players. Montreal's offensive scheme was centred around Subban's talents.

Why am I not surprised that you think manufactured bullpoop to attack my character is funny?

Oh wait, cuz you like to do that too.
- RonPielep

When has manufactured bullpoop ever stopped you from coming here?

I think you're spot on. Big free agency day and it hurts a whole lot less.
- Marwood

But why Hall? He was the least of their problems. They had that 1-2 punch of hall/ mcdavid that so many teams would covet. I don't get it.

If the GM of my team pulled that trade (moving hall) I think I would give up watching NHL hockey.

I like how the Devils do business. Too bad they play for New Jersey.

Does the Subban trade signal the start of a rebuild in Montreal? Subban and Weber are not similar players. Montreal's offensive scheme was centred around Subban's talents.
- bloatedmosquito

Perhaps, my biggest question is why was Bergeron so desperate to move Subban? Was the he that bad in the dressing room? It would be interesting to hear a Habs fans perspective

But why Hall? He was the least of their problems. They had that 1-2 punch of hall/ mcdavid that so many teams would covet. I don't get it.

If the GM of my team pulled that trade (moving hall) I think I would give up watching NHL hockey.
- bloatedmosquito

It's bizarre alright.

When has manufactured bullpoop ever stopped you from coming here?
- A_SteamingLombardi

Yeah my skin is not as thin as some.

I like how the Devils do business. Too bad they play for New Jersey.

Does the Subban trade signal the start of a rebuild in Montreal? Subban and Weber are not similar players. Montreal's offensive scheme was centred around Subban's talents.
- bloatedmosquito

I think the habs whole team let alone defensive scheme was centered around Carey Price

I think the habs whole team let alone defensive scheme was centered around Carey Price
- Redmile247

price should have won the hart this year. i'm only half joking

Thanks again for your useful contribution to the discussion Marwood.
- RonPielep

Marwoods thumbs up emoticon has been more productive than your contribution here the last 8 pages.

Lucic - Draisaitl - Eberle
Maroon - McDavid - Puljujarvi
Pouliot - RNH - Kassian/Yakupov

is still pretty good

i understand the skepticism but i don't think the leafs would be a team to low ball the biggest ufa signing by trying to circumvent the cap. i'd think they'd offer him 10+m rather than go through the shenanigans.

but weirder things have happened in this league so who knows...

back to your original point: i'd love to know what was said in that pitch.
- RealityChecker

Yeah. I'm sure the Toronto media will do some digging once they get over the shock of having lost out.

Whatever it was, it wasn't enough to get the Lightning to sweeten their offer. I believe 8.5 x 8 is the deal that has been rumoured to be on the table for months.

You are a real treat Ronny. Not long until you receive a ban
- CanuckDon

Bye Bye Ron...