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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 4:14 PM ET


After Ghost, Shea Weber is my favorite NHL player.

But my God, that's a horrible deal. Not as bad as Hall for Larsson, but it's a bad deal.

- jmatchett383

There's no way to excuse either of those deals.

I'm just waiting to here from Edmonton and Montreal.

Hell, it would have been more believable if it was Hall for Subban...
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jun 29 @ 4:14 PM ET
its like the day carter and richards went bye bye

except we aren't involved

- Marc D



Just hoping we get involved at some point. Whether it is a trade or UFA.
I would like to see the current product improved going into next season...
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jun 29 @ 4:14 PM ET
its like the day carter and richards went bye bye

except we aren't involved

- Marc D

Pretty much. Yes, I agree.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 29 @ 4:15 PM ET
Draft Pick ‏@nhldrafter 5m5 minutes ago

@robvollmanNHL Meanwhile .. Tyler Dellow was last seen running down the hall yelling to Chiarelli - 'I meant Ekman-Larsson!


LOLLOLOL

- AllInForFlyers


hahaha
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 29 @ 4:16 PM ET
las vegas expansion draft pretty much now starts with taking a nashville defenseman

josi
subban
ekholm
ellis
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 4:16 PM ET
He's not. He's shown serious decline already in every underlying stat -- some people just want to live in 2010. I don't know if he makes my top 20 NHL d men list. Subban is top 3-5.
- Mononoke



Yea, he is still a monster, just don't think it's a good idea to trade for the older player, because Subban is a monster also.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 29 @ 4:16 PM ET
10 million per year...no less...right?

LOL
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 29 @ 4:16 PM ET
Just hoping we get involved at some point. Whether it is a trade or UFA.
I would like to see the current product improved going into next season...

- 3flyerkids


You really want to see a Giroux for Paul Martin trade?
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 29 @ 4:16 PM ET
las vegas expansion draft pretty much now starts with taking a nashville defenseman

josi
subban
ekholm
ellis

- Marc D


Oh they'll probably just protect all of them in the 8-1
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 29 @ 4:16 PM ET
A new GM in about 11 months
- Jsaquella


When the slippage on Weber's skating takes hold, with the way the league is trending...LOLOLOLOL

I seriously started laughing as I typed that
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 29 @ 4:16 PM ET
las vegas expansion draft pretty much now starts with taking a nashville defenseman

josi
subban
ekholm
ellis

- Marc D


or a forward...
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jun 29 @ 4:16 PM ET
for Stamkos, 10M after taxes in Toronto = 4.7M
10M after taxes in Tampa = 6.4M

and tampa is closer to a cup

- Marc D

Thank you Stamkos for cheapening July 1st.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 4:16 PM ET
Are you kidding? Poile in Nashville just robbed Montreal blind and then had sex with Bergevin's wife. Three times!

Subban is a better d man on a better contract who is 4 years younger and not signed to age 40. He's just better as a player. It's not close imo. Nash. massively improved their team and financial situation with this trade.

- Mononoke

I don't get either of these trades. They make no sense. NONE!!! there have to be 26 GMs out there looking at their phones for missed calls.

WTF!!!
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 29 @ 4:17 PM ET
Draft Pick ‏@nhldrafter 5m5 minutes ago

@robvollmanNHL Meanwhile .. Tyler Dellow was last seen running down the hall yelling to Chiarelli - 'I meant Ekman-Larsson!


LOLLOLOL

- AllInForFlyers

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 29 @ 4:17 PM ET
wtf is going on here...silly season is here i guess.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 4:17 PM ET
PK practically built a wing on the children's hospital in montreal

I just don't get this trade from a hockey perspective or any other perspective

- Marc D



There has to be some unknown factor behind it.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 29 @ 4:17 PM ET
Oh they'll probably just protect all of them in the 8-1
- Mononoke

I guess so

that is a spectacular top 4
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 29 @ 4:18 PM ET
Didn't they already pay Weber the bulk of his deal though? Can this possibly be Montreal trying to save a (frank)ing dime?
- mayorofangrytown


There's got to be cap recapture penalties? Not sure how that shakes out.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 29 @ 4:18 PM ET
There has to be some unknown factor behind it.
- MJL


naaahhh its pretty well known at this point that bergevin is an idiot
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 29 @ 4:19 PM ET
Thank you Stamkos for cheapening July 1st.
- roenick97


Good man, Stamkos. Could have asked for more.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jun 29 @ 4:19 PM ET
At this point....until the paperwork is fired...who knows.
- jmatchett383


i guess the 8th year and lessor taxes made the deal better, kinda glad he is staying
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 29 @ 4:19 PM ET
for Stamkos, 10M after taxes in Toronto = 4.7M
10M after taxes in Tampa = 6.4M

- Marc D


I'll guess his accountants get a better tax rate than that, but your point is taken.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 29 @ 4:19 PM ET
There has to be some unknown factor behind it.
- MJL

unless he committed a felony it doesn't make sense
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 4:19 PM ET
There's got to be cap recapture penalties? Not sure how that shakes out.
- moylander



Cap recapture only applies to contracts signed under the previous CBA.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jun 29 @ 4:20 PM ET
I don't get either of these trades. They make no sense. NONE!!! there have to be 26 GMs out there looking at their phones for missed calls.

WTF!!!

- mayorofangrytown


i agree mayor, my jaw has dropped to the floor
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