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Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 29 @ 4:07 PM ET
Montreal just got one of the worst contracts in hockey
Oilers just traded a elite winger
Toronto lost Stamkos


CANADA
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 29 @ 4:08 PM ET
GET IN THE GAME HEXTALL
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jun 29 @ 4:08 PM ET
Kevin Allen ‏@ByKevinAllen 3m3 minutes ago

Confirmed PK Subban to Nashville for Shea Weber, first reported by Nick @RealKyper

- AllInForFlyers


It's like the entire league is trading around the Flyers.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 29 @ 4:08 PM ET
yeah, webers a monster but i dont like this from MTL's perspective at all. its not like theyre a budget team who will relish those last years of small payouts cash wise either.
- stayinthefnnet


He's not. He's shown serious decline already in every underlying stat -- some people just want to live in 2010. I don't know if he makes my top 20 NHL d men list. Subban is top 3-5.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jun 29 @ 4:08 PM ET
Streit for Crosby.

Get it done, this is the day!!!

- jmatchett383



Well let's see if Hextall sits on his hands. Some of these other GM's are showing they have big balls..
I would be happy with a Matt Read trade!!
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jun 29 @ 4:08 PM ET
Montreal just got one of the worst contracts in hockey
Oilers just traded a elite winger
Toronto lost Stamkos


CANADA

- Winning

Toronto lost Stamkos??
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 29 @ 4:08 PM ET
Travis Yost ‏@travisyost 4m4 minutes ago

Team executive just now: "They should've called us -- we easily put together a better package than Adam Larsson for Taylor Hall."


Pretty sure a coke fiend on a three-day bender couldn't have done worse
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 29 @ 4:09 PM ET
GET IN THE GAME HEXTALL
- YuenglingJagr


Hextall, somewhere, is laughing and saying, "What in (frank)'s name are these dingbats doing?!"

ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 29 @ 4:09 PM ET
It's like the entire league is trading around the Flyers.
- roenick97


Holy craps this is actually true what the hell
WhirlingDervish
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "Make The Flyers Great Again", PA
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 29 @ 4:09 PM ET


mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jun 29 @ 4:11 PM ET
is stankos confirmed to stay in tb?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 29 @ 4:11 PM ET
He's not. He's shown serious decline already in every underlying stat -- some people just want to live in 2010. I don't know if he makes my top 20 NHL d men list. Subban is top 3-5.
- Mononoke



After Ghost, Shea Weber is my favorite NHL player.

But my God, that's a horrible deal. Not as bad as Hall for Larsson, but it's a bad deal.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 29 @ 4:11 PM ET
for Stamkos, 10M after taxes in Toronto = 4.7M
10M after taxes in Tampa = 6.4M

and tampa is closer to a cup
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 4:11 PM ET
Shea Weber is on a far worse contract than Subban. Ok.

At this point in his career, just as players, he can't hold Subban's jock as an all-around, all-game player. My god. Sam Hinkie is wondering if there's a future for him in NHL GMing.

- Mononoke

Didn't they already pay Weber the bulk of his deal though? Can this possibly be Montreal trying to save a (frank)ing dime?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 29 @ 4:11 PM ET
is stankos confirmed to stay in tb?
- mydoglicks


At this point....until the paperwork is fired...who knows.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 29 @ 4:12 PM ET
Didn't they already pay Weber the bulk of his deal though? Can this possibly be Montreal trying to save a (frank)ing dime?
- mayorofangrytown


You'd think it would be the other way around, no?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 29 @ 4:12 PM ET
It's like the entire league is trading around the Flyers.
- roenick97

its like the day carter and richards went bye bye

except we aren't involved
WhirlingDervish
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "Make The Flyers Great Again", PA
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 29 @ 4:12 PM ET



- WhirlingDervish


stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 29 @ 4:13 PM ET
He's not. He's shown serious decline already in every underlying stat -- some people just want to live in 2010. I don't know if he makes my top 20 NHL d men list. Subban is top 3-5.
- Mononoke


i still consider weber a good player. his value as an asset is lessened by his contract. In my opinion weber still makes the top 20, albeit in the higher teens most likely. He isn't as good as Subban currently is, and you have to assume that gap will only widen in the upcoming years.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 29 @ 4:13 PM ET
Didn't they already pay Weber the bulk of his deal though? Can this possibly be Montreal trying to save a (frank)ing dime?
- mayorofangrytown

PK practically built a wing on the children's hospital in montreal

I just don't get this trade from a hockey perspective or any other perspective
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 29 @ 4:13 PM ET
Didn't they already pay Weber the bulk of his deal though? Can this possibly be Montreal trying to save a (frank)ing dime?
- mayorofangrytown


Are you kidding? Poile in Nashville just robbed Montreal blind and then had sex with Bergevin's wife. Three times!

Subban is a better d man on a better contract who is 4 years younger and not signed to age 40. He's just better as a player. It's not close imo. Nash. massively improved their team and financial situation with this trade.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 4:13 PM ET
What does Montreal get out of this? At least Edmonton's awful deal made sense in some microscopic way trading a winger for a d man. With this one, it's a worse defenseman who is older on a worse contract for just a better one. They're both righties anyway....
- Mononoke



A new GM in about 11 months
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 29 @ 4:13 PM ET
(frank) you Canada.

I hate you.

I want to spit on you.

For you bumholes in Montreal, "Le (frank) you."
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 29 @ 4:14 PM ET
Didn't they already pay Weber the bulk of his deal though? Can this possibly be Montreal trying to save a (frank)ing dime?
- mayorofangrytown


for that reason alone im surprised nashville did this.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 29 @ 4:14 PM ET
Draft Pick ‏@nhldrafter 5m5 minutes ago

@robvollmanNHL Meanwhile .. Tyler Dellow was last seen running down the hall yelling to Chiarelli - 'I meant Ekman-Larsson!


LOLLOLOL
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