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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 6:10 PM ET
Weber should be fine on that elite team with that elite defensive group
- PhillySportsGuy


Not only that, but Weber has some hard miles on him. Got to wonder if the small signs of decline will speed up in the near future
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 29 @ 6:11 PM ET
I still can't wrap my head around what Montreal and Edmonton were thinking.

Adam Larsson is a good, solid young defenseman with a lot of upside, but Hall is one of the top wingers around. It seems Edmonton was more worried about getting a solid RHD than making a good trade or getting value.

As for the other deal, I think Subban is better than Weber & on a better contract and I know he's younger. Weber's still elite offensively, but in terms of his skating and shot suppression, he's really not an elite defender. Montreal will likely need to do what NJ did for Stevens in the twilight of his career & get him a smart, mobile partner.

- Jsaquella


Listening to Sirius radio on the way home, Boomer Gordon was of the opinion that this was the only trade that Edmonton *could* make. He opined that there was no way they'd be able to move Eberle or RNH because no one was going to pick up their salary, and that they *had* to make this move.

I'm not sure I agree with that reasoning, but so far... he's the only person I've read or heard who wasnt ready to break out the pitchforks and torches over the move.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:11 PM ET
Sergachyev is like......
- Mononoke


What a mess
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:12 PM ET
Not only that, but Weber has some hard miles on him. Got to wonder if the small signs of decline will speed up in the near future
- Jsaquella


He's going to struggle without an elite puck mover like Josi or Suter
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 29 @ 6:13 PM ET
He's going to struggle without an elite puck mover like Josi or Suter
- PhillySportsGuy


Trade 'em back Mark Streit. The time is right.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 29 @ 6:13 PM ET
Weber made Team Canada for the World Cup. Subban did not.

I think this was the deciding factor.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:14 PM ET
Trade 'em back Mark Streit. The time is right.
- Tomahawk


I feel like Sweeney is just itching to do something stupid. He'd be the one I'd attack
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 29 @ 6:15 PM ET
I feel like Sweeney is just itching to do something stupid. He'd be the one I'd attack
- PhillySportsGuy


He has to compete with arch rival Montreal. He cannot and will not sit on his laurels!
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:15 PM ET
Listening to Sirius radio on the way home, Boomer Gordon was of the opinion that this was the only trade that Edmonton *could* make. He opined that there was no way they'd be able to move Eberle or RNH because no one was going to pick up their salary, and that they *had* to make this move.

I'm not sure I agree with that reasoning, but so far... he's the only person I've read or heard who wasnt ready to break out the pitchforks and torches over the move.

- Doc_Sarcasm


That could be the case, but it's not like they were in a situation where they had to move Hall.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 6:15 PM ET
Listening to Sirius radio on the way home, Boomer Gordon was of the opinion that this was the only trade that Edmonton *could* make. He opined that there was no way they'd be able to move Eberle or RNH because no one was going to pick up their salary, and that they *had* to make this move.

I'm not sure I agree with that reasoning, but so far... he's the only person I've read or heard who wasnt ready to break out the pitchforks and torches over the move.

- Doc_Sarcasm


If the best trade you can make is to get pennies on the dollar, don't make any trade. That's really all I can say.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:15 PM ET
He has to compete with arch rival Montreal. He cannot and will not sit on his laurels!
- Mononoke


Weber is probably his holy grail
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 29 @ 6:16 PM ET
These are two of the worst trades in NHL history. They happened like 20 min apart.

I love how in the middle of all this, Marshawn Yzerman announced Stamkos is signed to a shockingly reasonable amount and everyone dgaf.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jun 29 @ 6:17 PM ET
Trade 'em back Mark Streit. The time is right.
- Tomahawk



Please!!!
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 29 @ 6:17 PM ET
If the best trade you can make is to get pennies on the dollar, don't make any trade. That's really all I can say.
- Jsaquella



They may have been looking forward to who they were and werent going to be able to protect among the forward corps come expansion. I'm just guessing here. I can't really wrap my head around this one.

On the brighter side, no Oiler fan will ever bust our chops again about sending JvR out for L Schenn.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 29 @ 6:18 PM ET
I love how in the middle of all this, Marshawn Yzerman announced Stamkos is signed to a shockingly reasonable amount and everyone dgaf.
- Mononoke


Gonna be fun to see who they lose in the future because of this.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 29 @ 6:18 PM ET
They may have been looking forward to who they were and werent going to be able to protect among the forward corps come expansion. I'm just guessing here. I can't really wrap my head around this one.

On the brighter side, no Oiler fan will ever bust our chops again about sending JvR out for L Schenn.

- Doc_Sarcasm


I said right when it happened that this is JVR Schenn on a larger scale.
MikesPillBottle
Joined: 07.01.2015

Jun 29 @ 6:18 PM ET
If the best trade you can make is to get pennies on the dollar, don't make any trade. That's really all I can say.
- Jsaquella


They have refused to make any trades now for years. Wtf did they hold out for?

Just insane. Wonder if we had a shot at Hall. Morin for Hall or something. Doesn't matter, but it would be fun to know.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 29 @ 6:19 PM ET
Not only that, but Weber has some hard miles on him. Got to wonder if the small signs of decline will speed up in the near future
- Jsaquella


He's basically mid-2000's Sheldon Souray at this point. The decline won't be pretty.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:21 PM ET
Listening to Sirius radio on the way home, Boomer Gordon was of the opinion that this was the only trade that Edmonton *could* make. He opined that there was no way they'd be able to move Eberle or RNH because no one was going to pick up their salary, and that they *had* to make this move.

I'm not sure I agree with that reasoning, but so far... he's the only person I've read or heard who wasnt ready to break out the pitchforks and torches over the move.

- Doc_Sarcasm


I think not making the trade was definitely an option.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 29 @ 6:21 PM ET
Just insane. Wonder if we had a shot at Hall. Morin for Hall or something. Doesn't matter, but it would be fun to know.
- MikesPillBottle


Ghost for Hall? Would you have done it?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:21 PM ET
Gonna be fun to see who they lose in the future because of this.
- Tomahawk


Kuch, welcome to Philly
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:22 PM ET
Ghost for Hall? Would you have done it?
- Tomahawk


Nope
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 29 @ 6:22 PM ET
He's basically mid-2000's Sheldon Souray at this point. The decline won't be pretty.
- Tomahawk


I hope it's a disaster and PK wins multiple Norris trophies. My god, him on a pairing with Josi is filthy. And that's ignoring their other d men and prospects.

Good news though: Shea Weber will still be able to win the hardest slapshot trophy!
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 29 @ 6:22 PM ET
If the best trade you can make is to get pennies on the dollar, don't make any trade. That's really all I can say.
- Jsaquella


Bergevin seemed dead set tho... doubling down on Therrien and all.

God, NHL GMs are stupid.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 29 @ 6:23 PM ET
I think not making the trade was definitely an option.
- MJL


You would think they'd have been able to make a decent trade after free agency died down, before the start of the season, or at the deadline. Its not like they can reasonably expect to contend for the Cup this year, so where's the fire? Why the rush?

As I said, in a later comment.. I'm really having trouble wrapping my head around this one.
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