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senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 29 @ 2:38 PM ET
I WHOLE-HEARTEDLY agree with this...

However, there is a difference between cost to resign with the team you are already playing for an open market value. If Toews or Kane hit the open market they would be getting 14 or 15M offers hypothetically.

(I'm in the wagon that I don't want Buffalo to be giving up a 12M contract.. I don't care who you are)

- JVince11


yes..was my point also
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jun 29 @ 2:39 PM ET
those deals were signed years ago and not as UFA

when I say i cant see him getting less, I mean in regards to it being 2016, he is the first huge 26yo UFA to hit the market... many teams are sure to offer more than 10.5 ...stuff like that

- senstroll


I seriously doubt Toronto's will be the highest $ offer. I'm not sure it behoves a player to be the highest paid player in the league playing in Toronto, either. It pretty simply comes down to whether Stammer wants to come home, imo.
Venom.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.20.2015

Jun 29 @ 2:40 PM ET
A dumb reply how? You have serious problems. D

I replied to a comment, yes. And what I saw said they were going to offer 7-9mil. So, based on that is what I was replying to isn't wrong.


Don't project your issues on others.

- burn


Whatever you say!

In context of giving up 4 firsts. But you are always right.

Person A Says: Bruins will give up 4 1sts.

You say: Nope the contract is 7-9 mill per year.
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Jun 29 @ 2:43 PM ET
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 29 @ 2:43 PM ET
Just heard on the radio that Leafs went to see Stamkos/Meehan with the Mayor of Toronto and a big rep from Canadian Tire (lol. there's that outside sponsorship!)
- Delryk




steve simmons‏ @simmonssteve
SOURCES: Maple Leafs met with Steven Stamkos at MLSE headquarters Tuesday. Also present: Toronto Mayor John Tory and CEO of Canadian Tire.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 29 @ 2:44 PM ET
yes..was my point also
- senstroll


I am going to be VERY curious of what Benn resigns for in DAL. I bet 10+M

Marchand is a UFA next season as well and could go from 5 to near 8-9M I bet.

In 2018, Carey Price is a UFA already making 7M. Tavares already makes 6M and even James Neal is already making 5M. I can see them guys all getting BIG upgrades.

2019, Karlsson, Doughty, OEL, Duchene, Seguin, Hjalmarsson, and Pavelski.

the inflation in the NHL is going to be HUGE.



Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 29 @ 2:44 PM ET

- MCharisma91



So he's signing in Ottawa?
Delryk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jun 29 @ 2:44 PM ET
steve simmons‏ @simmonssteve
SOURCES: Maple Leafs met with Steven Stamkos at MLSE headquarters Tuesday. Also present: Toronto Mayor John Tory and CEO of Canadian Tire.

- burn


lol.. Tuesday? wtf. lol wowo

when did Steve tweet that? I dont follow that @sshole
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 29 @ 2:44 PM ET
Whatever you say!

In context of giving up 4 firsts. But you are always right.

Person A Says: Bruins will give up 4 1sts.

You say: Nope the contract is 7-9 mill per year.

- Venom.



And your point? The rumour is saw said 7-9 mil.

You have serious problems. Seek help.
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jun 29 @ 2:45 PM ET
steve simmons‏ @simmonssteve
SOURCES: Maple Leafs met with Steven Stamkos at MLSE headquarters Tuesday. Also present: Toronto Mayor John Tory and CEO of Canadian Tire.

- burn


@ Simmons.
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Jun 29 @ 2:47 PM ET

- MCharisma91

he sucks at life but that's good news.
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Jun 29 @ 2:48 PM ET
lol.. Tuesday? wtf. lol wowo

when did Steve tweet that? I dont follow that @sshole

- Delryk


they also took him to watch Finding Dory (but called it Finding Steven) at Cineplex theaters because it was 2 for 1 Tuesdays.
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Jun 29 @ 2:49 PM ET
Draglikepull ‏@draglikepull 22m22 minutes ago
You can laugh about offering Stamkos Canadian Tire money if you want, but it's worth more than the British pound at the moment.

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 29 @ 2:49 PM ET
And your point? The rumour is saw said 7-9 mil.

You have serious problems. Seek help.

- burn


I think you are wrong here Burn.

The original point was that Boston would have to give up 4 firsts.
You disagreed based on the AAV of the proposed deal.

The problem is that the actual cap hit of the deal is NOT the way they calculate the salary for compensation purposes.

So, while you are correct that the deal pays him less than 9 million, the calculation for compensation purposes does come out to over 9 million


and Boston would have to give up 4 picks.

The reason Boston would go that high, apparently, is that they don't have their own picks to give for any offer below the 9 million threshold.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 29 @ 2:49 PM ET
So he's signing in Ottawa?
- Garnie


Ottawa can barely afford the Extra Charmin that they wipe their butts with right now. They aren't going to be able to afford to even offer Stamkos.

They are trying to move Hoffman because his pay jump from 2M to 5.5M for a near 2-time 30 goal scorer is too much.
Venom.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.20.2015

Jun 29 @ 2:49 PM ET
And your point? The rumour is saw said 7-9 mil.

You have serious problems. Seek help.

- burn


You were wrong on the 4 1sts. The issue is you claim to be some kind of expert yet you don't even know basic offer sheet will divide by max 5 years.

The fact you are still commenting over this shows that you are the one who needs help Mr Expert. All I did was correct you on the 4 1sts and you go all mad.


burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 29 @ 2:50 PM ET
he sucks at life but that's good news.
- Lucas.Neilson



Zero credibility for opinion poop. None. Zero. Nadda.

Lost a lot of credibility for "news stories" with the fabricated hotdog story. Stil, he's been a round long time and he's got lots of contacts.

I don't follow him on Twitter either btw...
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Jun 29 @ 2:53 PM ET
Zero credibility for opinion poop. None. Zero. Nadda.

Lost a lot of credibility for "news stories" with the fabricated hotdog story. Stil, he's been a round long time and he's got lots of contacts.

I don't follow him on Twitter either btw...

- burn


I don't follow any of the TO reporters, even that weasel Mirtle...cant stand em!
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 29 @ 2:53 PM ET
I think you are wrong here Burn.

The original point was that Boston would have to give up 4 firsts.
You disagreed based on the AAV of the proposed deal.

The problem is that the actual cap hit of the deal is NOT the way they calculate the salary for compensation purposes.

So, while you are correct that the deal pays him less than 9 million, the calculation for compensation purposes does come out to over 9 million


and Boston would have to give up 4 picks.

The reason Boston would go that high, apparently, is that they don't have their own picks to give for any offer below the 9 million threshold.

- Aetherial


I wasn't commenting on the length of the conte t or anything. The original rumor I saw made no mention of total cost or length only they'd offer 7-9mil.

That's what I was basing it on.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 29 @ 2:54 PM ET
You were wrong on the 4 1sts. The issue is you claim to be some kind of expert yet you don't even know basic offer sheet will divide by max 5 years.

The fact you are still commenting over this shows that you are the one who needs help Mr Expert. All I did was correct you on the 4 1sts and you go all mad.



- Venom.



You obviously didn't read what I posted. I never made comment on 5yrs, total length or total dollars.

Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 29 @ 2:54 PM ET
Ottawa can barely afford the Extra Charmin that they wipe their butts with right now. They aren't going to be able to afford to even offer Stamkos.

They are trying to move Hoffman because his pay jump from 2M to 5.5M for a near 2-time 30 goal scorer is too much.

- JVince11


I was reading the part about the guy from Canadian Tire Centre joining Lou and Shanny.

my bad.
Venom.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.20.2015

Jun 29 @ 2:55 PM ET
I wasn't commenting on the length of the conte t or anything. The original rumor I saw made no mention of total cost or length only they'd offer 7-9mil.

That's what I was basing it on.

- burn


And if you were the expert you claimed you were would would check the term before commenting on compensation as that's an important part of that.
Venom.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.20.2015

Jun 29 @ 2:56 PM ET
You obviously didn't read what I posted. I never made comment on 5yrs, total length or total dollars.
- burn


No you obviously can't read. You wrongly rebutted that the compensation is not 4 1sts.

That's all I said. You are wrong. Period.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 29 @ 2:59 PM ET
And if you were the expert you claimed you were would would check the term before commenting on compensation as that's an important part of that.
- Venom.



What in the he'll is your problem? How on earth would I check the term? Again, you're not reading what is written before you comment.

Nastradamus
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Word., ON
Joined: 03.09.2009

Jun 29 @ 3:00 PM ET
steve simmons‏ @simmonssteve
SOURCES: Maple Leafs met with Steven Stamkos at MLSE headquarters Tuesday. Also present: Toronto Mayor John Tory and CEO of Canadian Tire.

- burn


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