How the hell do they keep him under contract. Of teams wait on the lighting they could get a player for penny's and nickles
- Santo_44

Not just him. Lightning are in Cap hell over the next couple of years.

I think with all this Stamkos talk and now these two blockbuster trades we forgot we drafted Auston Mathews

Hall is good...the poop show in Edmonton (like Kessel in Toronto) throws up smoke and mirrors

http://stats.hockeyanalys...p=1&sort=PCT&sortdir=DESC

one the the best 5v5 scorers in the NHL...NJ stole him

If that were true...sure.

but its not.

He'll still be a minutes eater on Team canada.
- Fakepartofme

It is true.

Not just him. Lightning are in Cap hell over the next couple of years.
- bixll

Whoever trades with them is in the drivers seat.

Hall is good...the poop show in Edmonton (like Kessel in Toronto) throws up smoke and mirrors

http://stats.hockeyanalys...p=1&sort=PCT&sortdir=DESC

one the the best 5v5 scorers in the NHL...NJ stole him
- senstroll

He's always injured.

My biggest problem with him.

I think with all this Stamkos talk and now these two blockbuster trades we forgot we drafted Auston Mathews
- Santo_44

never - that's our main man going forward

Hall is good...the poop show in Edmonton (like Kessel in Toronto) throws up smoke and mirrors

http://stats.hockeyanalys...p=1&sort=PCT&sortdir=DESC

one the the best 5v5 scorers in the NHL...NJ stole him
- senstroll

The fact that no one even tries to defend that move from Edm speaks for itself.

What was Chiarelli thinking?

with the number one pick in 2017 draft the Edmonton Oilers select:
- Lucas.Neilson

Should be an interesting year.

Weber is goddamn amazing, and it's not about the cap hit/money/contract or whatever.

Subban clearly annoyed both management and teamates with his attitude and we get a known leader in Weber.

But to me, there's no question about it, if it's not already the case, in 2-3 years down the line Subban will still be in his prime while Weber will decline, slowly but surely. He'll still be a good player, his positionning is too good for him to become useless and his shot will still be the strongest out there....

but he won't be P.K.
- Scabeh

Do you think Weber will be able to stop Matthews, Marner, and Nylander?

Weber is 30 and has 10 years left on his contract he is owed 16 million in bonuses due over the next two years, Subban is also owed $16 million in bonuses due over the next 6 years. Salaries for Subban are $11M for two, $10M for two and $8M for two, total $58M for six (Cap hit is $9M), Salaries for Weber are $12 for two and $6 for four for a total of $48M. So the Habs pay a bit more bonuses up front and save $10M in salary over the next six years. After PK is a UFA, Weber continues with $3M for one and $1M for 3.

Contract favors the Habs, smaller cap hit, less money paid, but Weber is 30 and PK is 27 - we'll see who wins this one. For me right now, Weber is better, in a few years - we'll see.
- winsix

Disagree.


Weber has already started to decline, and his skating is becoming more of an issue. He's also not got as good of a first pass out as Subban. Habs are going to see him exposed, because playing with an old Markov is not the same as playing with Suter or Josi in their prime...

not in a zillion years.
The Leafs need Rielly more.


Just like Edmonton needs Larsson more.
- Aetherial

Edmonton needed help on D... but you dont sell off at a discount to try to improve

never - that's our main man going forward
- Lucas.Neilson

Excited to see him play

Edmonton needed help on D... but you dont sell off at a discount to try to improve
- senstroll

Panic move. The old saying of don't make a trade for the sake of making a trade.

Edmonton needed help on D... but you dont sell off at a discount to try to improve
- senstroll

Mcdavid
Hall
Draisaitl
Eberle
RNH
Yakupov

would have been my order of keeping

Whoever trades with them is in the drivers seat.
- Santo_44

They have Kucherov, Johnson, Palat, Boyle, Nesterov and Bishop to sign. Now remove the 10 mill per for Stammer..

How will they do it.

Weber is goddamn amazing, and it's not about the cap hit/money/contract or whatever.

Subban clearly annoyed both management and teamates with his attitude and we get a known leader in Weber.

But to me, there's no question about it, if it's not already the case, in 2-3 years down the line Subban will still be in his prime while Weber will decline, slowly but surely. He'll still be a good player, his positionning is too good for him to become useless and his shot will still be the strongest out there....

but he won't be P.K.
- Scabeh

I agree with you. PK had defensive issues though. I did not see as much of Weber, but he is a regular top pair guy with Team Canada - PK is not.

The fact that no one even tries to defend that move from Edm speaks for itself.

What was Chiarelli thinking?
- Scabeh

I'll trade you 1 loonie for 3 quarters because 3 is more than 1

They have Kucherov, Johnson, Palat, Boyle, Nesterov and Bishop to sign. Now remove the 10 mill per for Stammer..

How will they do it.
- bixll

I asked this question yesterday,, someone said as long as they trade Callahan they're good.. but i kinda doubt that..

Mcdavid
Hall
Draisaitl
Eberle
RNH
Yakupov

would have been my order of keeping
- Lucas.Neilson

pretty much the same for me...maybe RNH above Eberle...they also have Puljarvyguy

They have Kucherov, Johnson, Palat, Boyle, Nesterov and Bishop to sign. Now remove the 10 mill per for Stammer..

How will they do it.
- bixll

That's the reason I really thought they weren't going to sign Stamkos. It's going to be thought that's for sure

why are they better?

they lost Subban.. they are worse..
- Tanooki

Yes, a guy who has been known to defensively weak and picked up a guy who is great in his own end.
Granted he is a little slower.

Both got 51 pts this season (PK in 10 games less). Pk had 6 goals, while Weber had 20.
One makes Team Canada on regular basis the other rarely does.
Long term its a foolish trade, I like PK, always wanted him on the leafs.
But with the other moves the Habs have done...they are little better as of now.
IMO.

Do you think Weber will be able to stop Matthews, Marner, and Nylander?
- Tanooki

Will they get up after getting nailed by Weber is another question?

I asked this question yesterday,, someone said as long as they trade Callahan they're good.. but i kinda doubt that..
- Tanooki

Holy Crap, he must make 25 milly per year.

Disagree.


Weber has already started to decline, and his skating is becoming more of an issue. He's also not got as good of a first pass out as Subban. Habs are going to see him exposed, because playing with an old Markov is not the same as playing with Suter or Josi in their prime...
- Milk_Babchoc

I won't disagree with you because I do not see enough of Weber. There is circumstantial evidence though, namely, Weber being the first name out of Team Canada GM's mouth, not PK. That may change.