I am getting a general consensus that Trouba has not earned what he has been asking for? I understand he is a young prospect but the offer sheets people are discussing just seem insane....

I am getting a general consensus that Trouba has not earned what he has been asking for? I understand he is a young prospect but the offer sheets people are discussing just seem insane....
- Mahewman

I think he is worth something similar to what Seth Jones just signed for this morning. Six years and a little north of $5M AAV.

I think he is worth something similar to what Seth Jones just signed for this morning. Six years and a little north of $5M AAV.
- Muskwa

Agreed but isnt he asking for much more than that?

Agreed but isnt he asking for much more than that?
- Mahewman

According to one reporter sometime before Christmas. This whole thing has been blown way out of proportion by the media desperate for a story when nothing will come of it. Kind of like Ek's roomers

According to one reporter sometime before Christmas. This whole thing has been blown way out of proportion by the media desperate for a story when nothing will come of it. Kind of like Ek's roomers
- Muskwa

I don't know about that. Tim Campbell was bang on for Byfuglien and Ladd, who were also part of the same story.

Just saying.

Marchand would be a rental for the season - he wouldn't resign in Winnipeg; we already have Morrissey, who'd be cheaper and is bigger than Krug and we have Enstrom (who basically would play the same role as Krug)... plus the 1st round pick.

So basically, after next year, we'd have traded for:

a player we already have and a 1st round pick

for:

Trouba and a 2nd.

Just my opinion, but I don't see the value or logic in that deal
- RFawkes

Not sure I follow this logic. First of all, why are you so certain that Marchand would be a rental? And even if he is, I suspect he'd get more in a straight up trade than Trouba would. Marchand, while utterly detestable, is an extremely valuable player

And to your point about similar players - what's wrong with having two or three similar defensemen? That's the model for many successful teams. I've never understood that argument

From my viewpoint, you'd be trading Trouba (a guy who clearly doesn't want to be there) for one year of Marchand, whatever assets you're able to recoup for him in a deadline deal, Torey Krug, and a 1st round pick that could very well be in the top ten

I guarantee you that if Don Sweeney temporarily lost his mind and made this offer, Chevy would pull the trigger without hesitation. Then he would hang up the phone and clean the mess from his pants

Not sure I follow this logic. First of all, why are you so certain that Marchand would be a rental? And even if he is, I suspect he'd get more in a straight up trade than Trouba would. Marchand, while utterly detestable, is an extremely valuable player

And to your point about similar players - what's wrong with having two or three similar defensemen? That's the model for many successful teams. I've never understood that argument

From my viewpoint, you'd be trading Trouba (a guy who clearly doesn't want to be there) for one year of Marchand, whatever assets you're able to recoup for him in a deadline deal, Torey Krug, and a 1st round pick that could very well be in the top ten

I guarantee you that if Don Sweeney temporarily lost his mind and made this offer, Chevy would pull the trigger without hesitation. Then he would hang up the phone and clean the mess from his pants
- AxlRose91

Yep. You're right. I'm wrong. Didn't consider trading Marchand (whom I'd like to have on the Jets for about 3-4 years) at next year's deadline - could get a 1st rounder and a young roster player, like we got for Ladd.

Not that excited about Krug - little guy, more of a PP specialist and a RFA who may or may not want to be here... but he'd be an asset too.

Yep. You're right. I'm wrong. Didn't consider trading Marchand (whom I'd like to have on the Jets for about 3-4 years) at next year's deadline - could get a 1st rounder and a young roster player, like we got for Ladd.

Not that excited about Krug - little guy, more of a PP specialist and a RFA who may or may not want to be here... but he'd be an asset too.
- RFawkes

I agree with this.

I agree with this.
- TheUltimateJet

so i saw one report the Jets have reached out to Okposo's camp? We talking to any other UFA's. I'd love to see Backes in our line-up, I'd talke a chance on Staal at 3 years worth 4 per, and Brian Campbell on 2 year deal also peaks my interest.

Adam Larsson just netted the Devils Taylor Hall.

Jacob Trouba could possibly get us Sidney Crosby......

so i saw one report the Jets have reached out to Okposo's camp? We talking to any other UFA's. I'd love to see Backes in our line-up, I'd talke a chance on Staal at 3 years worth 4 per, and Brian Campbell on 2 year deal also peaks my interest.
- Ross77

Please stay away from Staal, Campbell and Backes.

As for Okposo

If there is any truth to this, and it sounds so bizarre, that I really have my doubts....The Jets should take the 4 1st round picks. Then offer 2 of them to a team that has a LHD that we need.

Not sure I follow this logic. First of all, why are you so certain that Marchand would be a rental? And even if he is, I suspect he'd get more in a straight up trade than Trouba would. Marchand, while utterly detestable, is an extremely valuable player

And to your point about similar players - what's wrong with having two or three similar defensemen? That's the model for many successful teams. I've never understood that argument

From my viewpoint, you'd be trading Trouba (a guy who clearly doesn't want to be there) for one year of Marchand, whatever assets you're able to recoup for him in a deadline deal, Torey Krug, and a 1st round pick that could very well be in the top ten


I guarantee you that if Don Sweeney temporarily lost his mind and made this offer, Chevy would pull the trigger without hesitation. Then he would hang up the phone and clean the mess from his pants
- AxlRose91

I think you have to look at the Jets different Scnernio's:

1.sign trouba to 6 x 5.4 like Jones- I think the Jets would be all over that
2. 4 first rounds picks would be a nice consolation

Marchand is a good player but plays the left side where we have Ehlers, Perreault, Burmistrov, maybe Petan and then some guys named Kyle Connor, Brendan Lemeiux and some new dude Patrick Laine. It's a little crowded to say the least.

Added Krug doesn't do a lot when Buf, Myers and Enstrom can run the powerplay and maybe Morrissey gets his opportunity.

Plus the idea to flick Marchand at the trade deadline isn't necessary a gurantee 1st pick anymore. Only Ladd got that, and I think Bowman over paid.

Please stay away from Staal, Campbell and Backes.

As for Okposo
- TheUltimateJet

i think someone is going to over pay Okposo, i like the idea of him but not if we are over paying

Backes would be huge!! great leader and Competitor, much better than Ladd and Okposo

Campbell for 2 years, i'd do all day

Staal for 3 years at 4 million is alot better than Perrault on the same deal!!! and it seems Jets fans have no problem re-upping Perrault

It's crowded at literally every position. If I'm the Jets, I'm not going after any of the big UFAs. All Id do is trade Burmi (who will be passed by several young guys), and throw an offer to maybe a Stempniak and a 4-5 lefty dman.

Ehlers-Schiefele-Wheeler
Laine-Little-Stafford
Connor-Perreault-Dano/Armia
Lowry-Copp-Armia/Dano
Tanev-Thorburn

Trouba-Byfuglien
Enstrom-Myers
Chairot-Postma
Stuart

Hellebuyck
Hutchinson

Pav and Burmi get moved before the season. Stafford gets traded at the deadline and is replaced by Perreault, who is then replaced by Petan as the 3C.

It's crowded at literally every position. If I'm the Jets, I'm not going after any of the big UFAs. All Id do is trade Burmi (who will be passed by several young guys), and throw an offer to maybe a Stempniak and a 4-5 lefty dman.

Ehlers-Schiefele-Wheeler
Laine-Little-Stafford
Connor-Perreault-Dano/Armia
Lowry-Copp-Armia/Dano
Tanev-Thorburn

Trouba-Byfuglien
Enstrom-Myers
Chairot-Postma
Stuart




Hellebuyck
Hutchinson

Pav and Burmi get moved before the season. Stafford gets traded at the deadline and is replaced by Perreault, who is then replaced by Petan as the 3C.
- Rexypoo

I think the jets would like another top 9 right wing and we all know about the left D. If okoposo could be had for 6 or less, he maybe worth a chance.

I think the jets would like another top 9 right wing and we all know about the left D. If okoposo could be had for 6 or less, he maybe worth a chance.
- JETSWIN

I wouldn't sign any free agent forward for more than 2 years, if it all. Okposo will be around 50 points without Tavares. If Connor somehow isn't ready, I'd consider Okposo. Then drop Stafford down a line, and slide Perreault and Dano to the left.
I'm not so sure we need a left D if Trouba is still around and can adjust. Enstrom and Myers take all the hard assignments as is, so he'll get a lot of quality time with Buff to cause some chaos.

i think someone is going to over pay Okposo, i like the idea of him but not if we are over paying

Backes would be huge!! great leader and Competitor, much better than Ladd and Okposo

Campbell for 2 years, i'd do all day

Staal for 3 years at 4 million is alot better than Perrault on the same deal!!! and it seems Jets fans have no problem re-upping Perrault
- Ross77

Staal and Backes are in decline, about to be overpaid, and certainly not better than Matty Perreault (who outproduce a them both, while having superior underlying numbers).Stay FAAAR away from those two. I could do with a couple seasons of Brian Campbell, though.

Staal and Backes are in decline, about to be overpaid, and certainly not better than Matty Perreault (who outproduce a them both, while having superior underlying numbers).Stay FAAAR away from those two. I could do with a couple seasons of Brian Campbell, though.
- Rexypoo

what are you talking about? Perrault is not in Staal's and Backes league!! He has NEVER gone over 40 points. Staal has only gone under 50 once, yes it was last year but does that guarantee he's in decline? and if so then what will Perrault put up 30? I doubt Backes has ever had a season with less points than Perrault. They are both bigger, tougher and proven leaders. I like Perrault but to say he's better than these two is absolutely ridiculous. I dont want to over pay for them but I also dont want to over pay re-upping Perrault!!

what are you talking about? Perrault is not in Staal's and Backes league!! He has NEVER gone over 40 points. Staal has only gone under 50 once, yes it was last year but does that guarantee he's in decline? and if so then what will Perrault put up 30? I doubt Backes has ever had a season with less points than Perrault. They are both bigger, tougher and proven leaders. I like Perrault but to say he's better than these two is absolutely ridiculous. I dont want to over pay for them but I also dont want to over pay re-upping Perrault!!
- Ross77

Because they're both 32, have been steadily producing less as time goes on, and don't positively impact their line mates anymore. Perreault will cost less, produce more, and makes everyone around him better. Backes produced like a fourth liner last year. Staal is weak second line Center now. Perreault can play effectively on any line in any position.

Because they're both 32, have been steadily producing less as time goes on, and don't positively impact their line mates anymore. Perreault will cost less, produce more, and makes everyone around him better. Backes produced like a fourth liner last year. Staal is weak second line Center now. Perreault can play effectively on any line in any position.
- Rexypoo

obviously we wont change our minds and disagree big time on this one.

so looking at Bruins team and cap. If this is in fact happening and that's a big if, I would look into a trade like Chara, Jacob Zboril and 2017 first rounder. In my opinion we don't need any more forward prospects. Chara is a left D only signed for two more years which would be the perfect bridge to Morrisey, Zboril ( Bruin's top Left D prospect ) and Stanley and then we get the first rounder next year. I honestly think this trade is a huge over payment for Trouba but if Boston is serious this is probably a better option than giving up 4 firsts.

If we move Trouba I'm wondering if that could help convince Poolman not to go back to UND?

obviously we wont change our minds and disagree big time on this one.
- Ross77

I'm just looking at the numbers. That, and how sad Staal played in a Rangers jersey. That name is starting to become more of a curse now. Eric is almost done, Marc played terrible all year, and Jordan is still solid, but severely overpaid.

so looking at Bruins team and cap. If this is in fact happening and that's a big if, I would look into a trade like Chara, Jacob Zboril and 2017 first rounder. In my opinion we don't need any more forward prospects. Chara is a left D only signed for two more years which would be the perfect bridge to Morrisey, Zboril ( Bruin's top Left D prospect ) and Stanley and then we get the first rounder next year. I honestly think this trade is a huge over payment for Trouba but if Boston is serious this is probably a better option than giving up 4 firsts.

If we move Trouba I'm wondering if that could help convince Poolman not to go back to UND?
- Ross77

Enstrom-Buff
Chara- Myers?
One of these things is not like the other