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Forums :: Blog World :: Habs Talk: Dale Weise: Yay or Nay? by Andrew Saadalla
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obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 29 @ 8:27 PM ET
Whatever, maybe most of you are right and it'll be great, but my hunch is we're going to watch a Weber-Markov pairing get outplayed far more often than not.. Neither one can keep up with the play of faster teams
- ehabs9


Weber has been one of the best defenseman while playing in the best division in the league with tons of skilled, speedy F, I wouldn't worry about him getting outplayed by anyone
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jun 29 @ 8:27 PM ET
Markov has been a great player for a long time, but let's be honest he's been falling down the line these past few years.

Subban has been paired with Gill and him a lot.

Weber? Suter for a long time, then sadly had to go to ROMAN JOSI.

Weber is a beast, but the Habs don't have anybody in the same stratosphere to pair with him, and this is him beginning to get out of his prime.

- AdamFrench


Weber will play with Fowler, book it
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jun 29 @ 8:28 PM ET
CHI only scored 14 more goals than the Habs last year, with Kane and Panarin, while Habs had the worst season in a decacde.
Yes they need a scorer, but they needed leadership a lot more IMO.

- fidopro

Hate to say..Laracque was right about PK being traded
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jun 29 @ 8:28 PM ET
He's not faster. He can apparently hit the net better according to a post above. He's gonna throw down. Blocking shots is one thing I don't know about PK. How better is he? 10 years better? He's gonna be a great player for 4 years. But PK is younger. That's the problem I think. And like grease(frank) said, if you trade PK, you trade him for pieces to rebuild. It's like trading Price for Bernier. Same player, just one is younger.
- weirdoh



good one mon ami
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jun 29 @ 8:29 PM ET


No confidence in Andersen, is that it?

- QuebecPride



Price isn't on Andersen's level obvie.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 29 @ 8:29 PM ET
Weber will play with Fowler, book it
- fidopro

weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jun 29 @ 8:30 PM ET
Nolan Patrick
- AGalchenyuk27



Was he taken after the top 4? Or is he the next one? Who the Habs are getting?
ehabs9
Florida Panthers
Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jun 29 @ 8:30 PM ET
Markov has been a great player for a long time, but let's be honest he's been falling down the line these past few years.

Subban has been paired with Gill and him a lot.

Weber? Suter for a long time, then sadly had to go to ROMAN JOSI.

Weber is a beast, but the Habs don't have anybody in the same stratosphere to pair with him, and this is him beginning to get out of his prime.

- AdamFrench



This is another good point. It will be the first time Weber doesn't have another amazing D-man beside him. Will have to see how he responds to having to do it all by himself.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 29 @ 8:31 PM ET
Price isn't on Andersen's level obvie.
- weirdoh

The Sportsnet draft coverage was embarrassing, them saying the Leafs got their "franchise" goalie in Andersen...(frank)ing eh. "Franchise" goalies the media has proclaimed in the past decade.

Raycroft
Toskala
Gustavsson
Reimer
Scrivezina
Bernier
Andersen

Hell, people were saying Sparks was the next "big one" after the first game he played
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jun 29 @ 8:32 PM ET
This is another good point. It will be the first time Weber doesn't have another amazing D-man beside him. Will have to see how he responds to having to do it all by himself.
- ehabs9

QuebecPride
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Sherbrooke, QC
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 29 @ 8:32 PM ET
Auston Matthews
- weirdoh


1st game against the Leafs :D

fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jun 29 @ 8:32 PM ET
This is another good point. It will be the first time Weber doesn't have another amazing D-man beside him. Will have to see how he responds to having to do it all by himself.
- ehabs9


ah come on.... who do you think Josi learned from?
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 29 @ 8:33 PM ET
ah come on.... who do you think Josi learned from?
- fidopro

His coaches in Switzerland?
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jun 29 @ 8:33 PM ET
The Sportsnet draft coverage was embarrassing, them saying the Leafs got their "franchise" goalie in Andersen...(frank)ing eh. "Franchise" goalies the media has proclaimed in the past decade.

Raycroft
Toskala
Gustavsson
Reimer
Scrivezina
Bernier
Andersen

Hell, people were saying Sparks was the next "big one" after the first game he played

- AdamFrench



Don't know who said that about Sparks...maybe, a little maybe you just say that. But what was (frank)ing great at the draft was how Auston Matthews was better the Ron Francis and Laine was going to score 700 goals.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 29 @ 8:34 PM ET
Weber has been one of the best defenseman while playing in the best division in the league with tons of skilled, speedy F, I wouldn't worry about him getting outplayed by anyone
- obie


Ok. Just know that every analyst, whether old school or analytics, have been sounding the alarm about this guy for 2 years. The organization he has captained and been a part of for 13 years just sent him packing for a more expensive player with a lesser reputation who plays the same position.

That should worry us. To say nothing of the fact that our GM and scouting staffs have proven to be appallingly terrible talent evaluators.
AGalchenyuk27
Dallas Stars
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Jun 29 @ 8:34 PM ET
Was he taken after the top 4? Or is he the next one? Who the Habs are getting?
- weirdoh

Leafs pick next year. #1 rated
ehabs9
Florida Panthers
Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jun 29 @ 8:34 PM ET
ah come on.... who do you think Josi learned from?
- fidopro



That's fair, but that doesn't change the fact that Josi is incredible, Weber didn't turn some turd into a diamond. Weber has always had another legitimate top pairing defenceman with him. Habs barely have anyone who qualifies as top 4
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jun 29 @ 8:35 PM ET
Leafs pick next year. #1 rated
- AGalchenyuk27




Nope. Out of bottom 10
ehabs9
Florida Panthers
Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jun 29 @ 8:36 PM ET
Nope. Out of bottom 10
- weirdoh


Let us know how it is, we'll still be there
AGalchenyuk27
Dallas Stars
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Jun 29 @ 8:36 PM ET
Nope. Out of bottom 10
- weirdoh

Without Stamkos. Leafs will be 28-30th
QuebecPride
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Sherbrooke, QC
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 29 @ 8:37 PM ET
The Sportsnet draft coverage was embarrassing, them saying the Leafs got their "franchise" goalie in Andersen...(frank)ing eh. "Franchise" goalies the media has proclaimed in the past decade.

Raycroft
Toskala
Gustavsson
Reimer
Scrivezina
Bernier
Andersen

Hell, people were saying Sparks was the next "big one" after the first game he played

- AdamFrench


Honestly I think Andersen is better than all his recent predecessors. I like Morgan Rielly a lot, but if Lamoriello and James Mirtle's best bud Dubas don't bring him backup, the leafs won't allow that many less goals...
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jun 29 @ 8:38 PM ET
Without Stamkos. Leafs will be 28-30th
- AGalchenyuk27




No (frank)ing way.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jun 29 @ 8:39 PM ET
That's fair, but that doesn't change the fact that Josi is incredible, Weber didn't turn some turd into a diamond. Weber has always had another legitimate top pairing defenceman with him. Habs barely have anyone who qualifies as top 4
- ehabs9


Weber didn't pass from Sutter to this year' Josi. Who was him playing with last year? and the year before?Suter left NASH 4 seasons ago!
AGalchenyuk27
Dallas Stars
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Jun 29 @ 8:40 PM ET
No (frank)ing way.
- weirdoh

Ahead of Columbus and Canes..
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jun 29 @ 8:40 PM ET
Nope. Out of bottom 10
- weirdoh


don't bet your tipi on it
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