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deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 29 @ 6:55 PM ET
I wasn't upset over either of those guys. Look beyond his goals and points. Almost every expert in the game has said he is declining. Many even said he shouldn't be on team Canada.
- muffin_man


Tanner doesn't count.
hamiltonhabfan
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 02.17.2009

Jun 29 @ 6:55 PM ET
It will be nearly impossible to move that contract.

And that's what I love about Montreal. We're always on this side of the trade. Declining player on an unmovable contract? Call Montreal.

Player has an "attitude" problem in Montreal? Hey lets go acquire him for a pile of poop.

- DoubleDown



He gets paid 3M, 1M, 1M, 1M in the last 4 years thats very easy to trade...do you think teams like Arizona that are desperate to get to the floor won't exist in the year 2022?

I have no reason to believe Shea won't be a good player when he is 36 or 37, and if you are only female doging because of the last 4 years of the deal well read this post over from the start.
Habsody
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 3-Rivières, QC
Joined: 12.16.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:55 PM ET
Weber a gaffé défensivement autant que Subban durant les derniers playoffs. Je pense que le monde exagère beaucoup les différences entre Weber et Subban. La différence est l'âge, le contrat et la personnalité.
- Not_Yan


lol RDS gem?
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 29 @ 6:56 PM ET
Weber a gaffé défensivement autant que Subban durant les derniers playoffs. Je pense que le monde exagère beaucoup les différences entre Weber et Subban. La différence est l'âge, le contrat et la personnalité.
- Not_Yan


It's amazing. Weber or Doughty can poop their pants and it's "oh well poop happens". Subban turns the puck over in the offensive zone OMG HES A CANCER!
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Jun 29 @ 6:56 PM ET
lol RDS gem?
- Habsody


Non je suis sérieux
As-tu regardé les dernières séries?
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jun 29 @ 6:57 PM ET
It's amazing. Weber or Doughty can poop their pants and it's "oh well poop happens". Subban turns the puck over in the offensive zone OMG HES A CANCER!
- DoubleDown



This all the coach?
Habsody
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 3-Rivières, QC
Joined: 12.16.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:57 PM ET
Non je suis sérieux
As-tu regardé les dernières séries?

- Not_Yan


j'imagine que non parce que j'ai pas vu Montréal jouer.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 29 @ 6:58 PM ET
He gets paid 3M, 1M, 1M, 1M in the last 4 years thats very easy to trade...do you think teams like Arizona that are desperate to get to the floor won't exist in the year 2022?

I have no reason to believe Shea won't be a good player when he is 36 or 37, and if you are only female doging because of the last 4 years of the deal well read this post over from the start.

- hamiltonhabfan


You have no idea what the cap landscape will be in 8 or 9 years. Doesn't the CBA expire before that?
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 29 @ 6:58 PM ET
Just waiting to see what diarrhea MB will be trying to shove down our throats by July 2nd. Hab fan are gonna be eating a lot of poop for the next few years, then Price and Patches will leave.

But it is all good, we will have Gallagher and Shaw. And an even less productive Weber.

And still be without a plan.
Habsody
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 3-Rivières, QC
Joined: 12.16.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:59 PM ET
Non je suis sérieux
As-tu regardé les dernières séries?

- Not_Yan


Pietrangelo aussi a été désastreux, Toews a manqué de jus cette année et pourtant c'est des joueurs qu'on accueillerait à bras ouverts.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 29 @ 6:59 PM ET
He gets paid 3M, 1M, 1M, 1M in the last 4 years thats very easy to trade...do you think teams like Arizona that are desperate to get to the floor won't exist in the year 2022?

I have no reason to believe Shea won't be a good player when he is 36 or 37, and if you are only female doging because of the last 4 years of the deal well read this post over from the start.

- hamiltonhabfan


No. Because he will not be worth the cap hit, (frank) the salary.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jun 29 @ 6:59 PM ET
It's amazing. Weber or Doughty can poop their pants and it's "oh well poop happens". Subban turns the puck over in the offensive zone OMG HES A CANCER!
- DoubleDown


Weber and Doughty are top 3, PK is top 10.
Nothing to be ashamed of.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 29 @ 6:59 PM ET
It's amazing. Weber or Doughty can poop their pants and it's "oh well poop happens". Subban turns the puck over in the offensive zone OMG HES A BLACK CANCER!
- DoubleDown


Fixed.
hamiltonhabfan
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 02.17.2009

Jun 29 @ 7:00 PM ET
No. Because he will not be worth the cap hit, (frank) the salary.
- Mashadar




the cap hit is a fictitious number to teams try to reach the cap floor....the salary is the only thing that matters to them
Euh_Michel
Montreal Canadiens
Location: L'exécution est pas là, QC
Joined: 01.27.2016

Jun 29 @ 7:01 PM ET
Weber has 10 years left at almost $8M.

If he retires, the new cap circumvention rules for players / contracts such as Weber will kill the Habs down the line.

Worth taking the risk, if you are gonna win it all now (or on the cusp of). Not worth the risk if you are struggling just to make the playoffs.

- Mashadar



General Fanager
‏@generalfanager
If Weber retires before contract ends, #Preds will be charged on the cap $24,571,432 divided by years remaining in recapture penalties.


apparently not...
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 29 @ 7:01 PM ET


the cap hit is a fictitious number to teams try to reach the cap floor....the salary is the only thing that matters to them

- hamiltonhabfan


So you are saying, we trade a guy who is entering his prime, for a guy who has a few y ears left... and then trade that old guy to get cap space back, while the guy we just traded is in his prime?

(frank)ING BRILLIANT!

Almost brilliant enough to be the next GM.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 29 @ 7:01 PM ET
Just waiting to see what diarrhea MB will be trying to shove down our throats by July 2nd. Hab fan are gonna be eating a lot of poop for the next few years, then Price and Patches will leave.

But it is all good, we will have Gallagher and Shaw. And an even less productive Weber.

And still be without a plan.

- Mashadar


Therrien will be promoted to an executive role and Patrice Brisebois will be the head coach. Fidopro will be his assistant, telecommuting from Florida.
J-P
Location: goo.gl/wzUUGe
Joined: 01.21.2007

Jun 29 @ 7:02 PM ET
It's amazing. Weber or Doughty can poop their pants and it's "oh well poop happens". Subban turns the puck over in the offensive zone OMG HES A CANCER!
- DoubleDown


Subban wasn't at McDonaugh's or even Karlsson's level when they matched up. I did not even think he was a comparable to Weber or Doughty, not the same league at all. Subban had a good mouth on him with little to nothing to back it up. I predict he will not be able to fill Weber's skates in Nashville.
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jun 29 @ 7:02 PM ET
Not gonna backread...but by the looks of it, the regular haters are hating this deal.


Wahhhh wahhhhh we got Shea aweeeebbberrr in returnnnn waaah. WaaaHHHHHHH



Tabarnak...
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jun 29 @ 7:02 PM ET

General Fanager
‏@generalfanager
If Weber retires before contract ends, #Preds will be charged on the cap $24,571,432 divided by years remaining in recapture penalties.


apparently not...

- Euh_Michel



Yup, that's all on the Preds. But just read they owed Weber an 8 million signing bonus Friday, well...guess that's the Habs now.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 29 @ 7:02 PM ET

General Fanager
‏@generalfanager
If Weber retires before contract ends, #Preds will be charged on the cap $24,571,432 divided by years remaining in recapture penalties.


apparently not...

- Euh_Michel


Ed Snider was a wiener
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 29 @ 7:04 PM ET

General Fanager
‏@generalfanager
If Weber retires before contract ends, #Preds will be charged on the cap $24,571,432 divided by years remaining in recapture penalties.


apparently not...

- Euh_Michel



Yeah, it is gonna be great.

Everything is perfect.

Could not be better.....
Habsody
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 3-Rivières, QC
Joined: 12.16.2007

Jun 29 @ 7:04 PM ET
Not gonna backread...but by the looks of it, the regular haters are hating this deal.


Wahhhh wahhhhh we got Shea aweeeebbberrr in returnnnn waaah. WaaaHHHHHHH



Tabarnak...

- WaterBoy


We got a top 3 D but man is it unbearable we have to give PK Subban doing so...
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 29 @ 7:04 PM ET
Subban wasn't at McDonaugh's or even Karlsson's level when they matched up. I did not even think he was a comparable to Weber or Doughty, not the same league at all. Subban had a good mouth on him with little to nothing to back it up. I predict he will not be able to fill Weber's skates in Nashville.
- J-P


Nothing to back it up? Ok. Every measurable statistic flies in the face of that. As does a Norris trophy and a separate Norris nomination. But hey J-P from Hockeybuzz wasn't sold so...
PepinoPamplemousse
Carolina Hurricanes
Joined: 01.18.2009

Jun 29 @ 7:05 PM ET
You have no idea what the cap landscape will be in 8 or 9 years. Doesn't the CBA expire before that?
- DoubleDown


Yeah, 8 years ago:

The Thrashers still existed, Ilya Kovalchuk was playing for them and scored 91 points.

Marc Savard was a point per game center.

First and Second Team All-Star Defensemen were Mike Green, Zdeno Chara, Nik Lidstrom and Dan Boyle.

Gary Roberts and Mike Sillinger were still playing.

A LOT can change in that time.
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