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AGalchenyuk27
Dallas Stars
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Jun 29 @ 6:05 PM ET
He's won a Norris...
- nords21

The best there ever was..
habs12
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Cole Harbour, NS
Joined: 04.29.2008

Jun 29 @ 6:05 PM ET
Weber is a plugger?

Listen, I don't like the deal a lot, but Come on, Weber doesn't suck.

- Pecafan Fan


This is accurate
cburgess
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.31.2011

Jun 29 @ 6:05 PM ET
Well, how else do you explain that trade?
- deadpoulet

Pk had to demand a trade after poop hit the fan before the draft. It just makes no sense at all
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jun 29 @ 6:06 PM ET
Older on a worse contract. We can debate about who is better as of now. Anyway, the trade is done. Let's see if Bergevin can do something about that top 6 upfront.
- deadpoulet


now that is a very good point.
I think he's not done.
AGalchenyuk27
Dallas Stars
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Jun 29 @ 6:06 PM ET
Last 3 Regular Seasons:
Subban- 232 GPs, 164 PTS, 301 Giveaways
Weber-235 GPs, 152 PTS, 142 Giveaways
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:06 PM ET
Bet he was crying himself to sleep every night, laying in piles of cash (and pimp clothes)
- Pecafan Fan

because rappers usually do this and most rappers are black and Subban is black

in case anyone was wondering about the underlying logic
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 29 @ 6:07 PM ET
the cap
- twiztedmike


They save 1millions short term. So I don't know about that one. But thanks.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 29 @ 6:07 PM ET
Last 3 Regular Seasons:
Subban- 232 GPs, 164 PTS, 301 Giveaways
Weber-235 GPs, 152 PTS, 142 Giveaways

- AGalchenyuk27



PK also carries the puck a lot more... so that was gonna be obvious.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jun 29 @ 6:07 PM ET
Last 3 Regular Seasons:
Subban- 232 GPs, 164 PTS, 301 Giveaways
Weber-235 GPs, 152 PTS, 142 Giveaways

- AGalchenyuk27


and don't tell me NASH were a powerhouse offensively like PIT or TB...
nords21
Montreal Canadiens
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 03.24.2014

Jun 29 @ 6:07 PM ET
Matt Kassian ✔ @kassassination
On another note, a good deal for both MTL and NSH. Subban has some insulating players in NSH dressing room, MTL gets an actual captain.

AGalchenyuk27
Dallas Stars
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Jun 29 @ 6:08 PM ET

Bob McKenzie Verified account
‏@TSNBobMcKenzie

@AndrewBerkshire @TSN_Sports Told you last week MTL was serious about trading P.K. You didn't seem to believe it. TSN agenda, you said?
Habsolute009
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 12.09.2010

Jun 29 @ 6:08 PM ET
Last 3 Regular Seasons:
Subban- 232 GPs, 164 PTS, 301 Giveaways
Weber-235 GPs, 152 PTS, 142 Giveaways

- AGalchenyuk27


Subban- 27 yrs old and under contract until 34 @ 9M.
Weber- 30 and under contract until 41 @ 8M.

Sweet deal.

Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 29 @ 6:08 PM ET
because rappers usually do this and most rappers are black and Subban is black

in case anyone was wondering about the underlying logic

- twiztedmike

Disclaimer: I love his clothes.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 29 @ 6:08 PM ET
They save 1millions short term. So I don't know about that one. But thanks.
- deadpoulet


So they can sign Vanek and Perron....
Habsody
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 3-Rivières, QC
Joined: 12.16.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:08 PM ET
PK also carries the puck a lot more... so that was gonna be obvious.
- Mashadar


Weber plays more minutes yet have less than half the giveaways of Subban. But, but he is such a (frank)ing possession beast!!!
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:10 PM ET
Disclaimer: I love his clothes.
- Pecafan Fan

they suit you
J-P
Location: goo.gl/wzUUGe
Joined: 01.21.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:11 PM ET
Subban- 27 yrs old and under contract until 34 @ 9M.
Weber- 30 and under contract until 41 @ 8M.

Sweet deal.


- Habsolute009


By the time weber's contract becomes an issue the heavily front loaded contract will become an asset to poorer teams.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 29 @ 6:11 PM ET
Weber plays more minutes yet have less than half the giveaways of Subban. But, but he is such a (frank)ing possession beast!!!
- Habsody


Weber is still playing more minutes? Are you sure?
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:11 PM ET
Well. Might as well go annoy the Sens, Oilers and Nucks fans.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jun 29 @ 6:12 PM ET
Well. Might as well go annoy the Sens, Oilers and Nucks fans.
- twiztedmike


try TB
Habsody
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 3-Rivières, QC
Joined: 12.16.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:13 PM ET
Weber is still playing more minutes? Are you sure?
- deadpoulet


Over that 3 years span, yes i think so.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:13 PM ET
try TB
- fidopro



its not signed yet buddy!!
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 29 @ 6:13 PM ET
Weber plays more minutes yet have less than half the giveaways of Subban. But, but he is such a (frank)ing possession beast!!!
- Habsody



Here is the bottom line, from my perspective.

If the Habs were on the cusp of greatness, a stacked team that was about to be dominant for 2-3-4 years with a high chance of winning the cup, then this trade makes sense.

But they are not... and not even close. Even picking up Stamkos would not have done that for the Habs. And in 3-4 years, the Weber contract is going to be a huge albatross for this team, especially if/when he retires and the cap recoup will be an utter disaster.

but MB and MT don't give a (frank), cause they will be long gone by then.
Habsolute009
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 12.09.2010

Jun 29 @ 6:14 PM ET
By the time weber's contract becomes an issue the heavily front loaded contract will become an asset to poorer teams.
- J-P


Don't think you're fully understanding how his cap hit is going to work. But keep thinking that.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jun 29 @ 6:15 PM ET
Here is the bottom line, from my perspective.

If the Habs were on the cusp of greatness, a stacked team that was about to be dominant for 2-3-4 years with a high chance of winning the cup, then this trade makes sense.

But they are not... and not even close. Even picking up Stamkos would not have done that for the Habs. And in 3-4 years, the Weber contract is going to be a huge albatross for this team, especially if/when he retires and the cap recoup will be an utter disaster.

but MB and MT don't give a (frank), cause they will be long gone by then.

- Mashadar


they are better today than they were a week ago.
Weber + Shaw >>> PK + Eller
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